Wow !!! - Judge Chutkan faces call to seize Trump's passport after threat to flee to Venezuela

[Rubyshoo]

George Washington Law Professor Randall Eliason, a former federal prosecutor, called on U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan to seize Donald Trump's passport after he suggested that he might flee to Venezuela.

In a conversation with Elon Musk on Monday, Trump hinted that he would move to Venezuela if he lost the 2024 presidential election.

"If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in Venezuela," the former president told Musk.


Eliason noted Tuesday that Chutkan had not required Trump to surrender his passport when he was first arraigned.

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-passport-2668957304/

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[Irish_Dem]

1. Either he goes to prison or gets the h out of the country.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. So Trump was testing his escape route

Slick

[wnylib]

64. But he would never publicly say what country he would go to.

[WhiteTara]

3. as she should and

he must have read my post that his passport should be seized. lol

[hlthe2b]

4. Let me anticipate the next question: Yes, Venezuela does have an extradition treaty with US... BUT

they are among the countries that not infrequently refuse to do so. And, given their political unrest, and election corruption, I'd guess they'd welcome Trump with welcome arms (depending on who prevails).

[peppertree]

28. And the same applies to that other oft-mentioned Trumpian exile option: Argentina

Argentina has a mutual extradition treaty with the U.S. - BUT they're currently governed by an utterly lawless Trumpian president.

Milei basically rules by decree - with the one legislation he did manage to get passed (by way of bribing a couple of key senators), being one giving him broad decree powers for the rest of his term (to 2027).

So it's likely that if Cheeto fled to Argentina, that Chucky doll Milei would protect him.

In fact - I could almost guarantee you Milei would make a sport of defying "that thieving, black communist," if President Harris pressured him to hand the fat bastard over.

I might add that Trump even hinted at Argentina as an option, when he complimented Milei out of the blue in last night's malarkey session with Muskrat.

[paleotn]

46. Nor does Russia and many of the Gulf states.

They're probably higher on his list than Venezuela. I think that was just a Donny blurt out. Given his activity as president and rhetoric, I doubt he'd be welcome in Caracas.

[LeftInTX]

47. He's not going. He's claiming Kamala will turn the US into Venezuela.

And that all of Venezuela will live in the US. It's nothing but a ploy to his base. He said that during the convention too. He said if the Democrats win, they will hold the next RNC in Venezuela.

It doesn't make sense, especially the way I'm writing it. He's just saying that it would be better to live in Venezuela if Democrats win because the US will now consist of Venezuelans and Venezuela will be vacant...


It's just a rallying cry to his base. It's like the yahoos who file bills getting Texas to cede. Then everyone takes it seriously, but it's nothing but BS.

He's probably excited that Democrats are gleeful about this. He has no plans to go.

[hlthe2b]

49. Yeah, I know. But it isn't bad to contemplate finally being free of him... albeit

he might take a shitload of classified documents and to the extent that his addled mind will let him, fully enable our enemies to come after us.

[Dave Bowman]

5. No running away, this time Lardo Loco will face the music.

Seize his passport asap.

[Lovie777]

6. My thoughts........................

shithole don't need one to flee the USA because of RW billionaires.

[hlthe2b]

8. Just three words... WE GOT EL Chappo

we can get that fraud--wherever.

[AZ8theist]

36. isn't that 4 words?

sorry........

[hlthe2b]

38. No. That is his common name El Chapo, not Chapo, not El.

Full name Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera

[AZ8theist]

44. OK, understood.

My foreign language skills are about as good as Dotards ability to drool a coherent thought.

[hlthe2b]

45. ...

[mindfulNJ]

7. Wow.

Is this whole thing going to end up in an OJ style Bronco chase?

[TBF]

9. The press would love that! nt

[MyOwnPeace]

62. So would Alan Dershowitz!

Another chance to show off his poetic artistry from the OJ trial:

“He’s so fat he couldn’t do that!”
“He might be a slime - but he ain’t done no crime!”
“He ain’t no chump - he’s the Emperor Trump!”
“If the diaper don’t fit - you must acquit!”

[ultralite001]

41. Not a Bronco...

It'll be golf carts...

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[Attilatheblond]

48. Does he even know how to drive?

Figured that was one of the reasons he ran for POTUS the first time, so he wouldn't have to pay for a driver himself.

[keithbvadu2]

10. Let him go, Then limit it to travel to Russia/North Korea only.

Probably can't be done but it's a dream.

[Mz Pip]

11. Let him flee

I’d love to see him chased by bounty hunters.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

58. Lawyers, guns and money -- Warren Zevon

"I'm hiding in Honduras. I'm a desperate man"

[B Hamster]

12. So, if he skips the country, would he still get Secret Service protection?

It seems that if he runs, he will have to shed his SS detail. Otherwise, they could be ordered to bring him in "For his own protection". I think Trump is too cowardly to be out in the world without protection.

[Lonestarblue]

16. And too cheap to pay for his own protection.

[TommyT139]

29. Theoretically they work for us. nt

[lame54]

13. That means he has to stay here. Noooo!

[yellowcanine]

14. If Trump flees to Venezuela President Harris should just leave him there.

[LakeArenal]

15. I say go. I know many want trump to face consequences

But also many think he never will face consequences.

The chaos he creates just isn’t worth it to me.

Let him and his Magat followers go with the condition none can return.

[japple]

17. That's my opinion as well. Just let him leave and let the courts try those cases in absentia.

And revoke his American citizenship, invalidate his presidency and never allow him to return to the US.

[LakeArenal]

25. Yes!🇺🇸

[Justice matters.]

30. That will not prevent him from inciting his violent goons

on social medias

He must get cared of starting with taking hia phone away

[LakeArenal]

68. His violent goons are cowards who wil run at the first sign of armed pushback.

[TommyT139]

31. If we invalidate his presidency ...

Wouldn't that mean his appointments and decisions should be invalidated too?

In general, I think he and his cronies should face a firing squad. But if it means chucking the corrupt "judges" off the bench, I'd take that as a second best.

[MyOwnPeace]

63. But...but......

What will we do with the coloring books we’ve been collecting for his ‘Presidential Library’ - as well as all of the toilets saved to make his reading room there?

[riversedge]

67. I do not think Trump would ever see the inside of a jail cell here in the US. I say GO!!

[Jarqui]

18. NY State & EJ Carroll ought to cover themselves

to secure the assets needed to compensate them remain in the country.

[et tu]

19. cf 45 needs to stay and

face his consequences- there has to be accountability no
matter how sick and tired we are of him.

[Escurumbele]

20. I am all for him disappearing from the USA, but if he is planning to go to Venezuela, something venezuelans don't

deserve, it is because Putin told him to get the hell out of Russia. I think we all know that Putin doesn't really like the buffoon, and is not prepared to listen to a narcissistic idiot talk about himself all day.

One more thing, there is still the hope that Maduro will leave Venezuela, my understanding is that there are negotiations going on at this time, and I don't think the new president would welcome trump.

Now, if Putin accepted him but immediately sent him to Siberia? That would be OK.

[ShazzieB]

55. I've been saying for a long time that I don't think Putin would want him.

Putin's only use for that festering boil is the power of the presidency. Without that, he will have absolutely no use for Trump. I'm not sure Putin would tell Trump that now, because he'd want to keep his options open until November. But once Kamala is officially declared the winner of the 2024 election, I think Russia will slam the door on Trump in a heartbeat. So will a lot of other countries; Trump would be a pain in the ass that few would welcome. Has Venezuela indicated to Trump that he'd be welcome there? Who knows. Stranger things have happened.

[LakeArenal]

69. If he goes to Ven we will be sending our worst criminal.

He even speaks a language that no one has ever heard of.

[Liberal In Texas]

21. And seize

Epstein's his 757 too.

[dchill]

22. They need to treat criminals like criminals...

...not fucking VIPs.

[ColinC]

23. Please don't take his passport. Please just let him go, charge and convict him in absentia so we never

Have to see him again? Why waste any more of our resources on that parasite?

[AZ8theist]

40. For one simple reason...

If he evades justice and emigrates somewhere, he will still cause trouble through social media.
If he is jailed (as he DEFINETLY needs to be) his access to the outside world will be shut down.The only bullshit we will have to endure is statements from his trash lawyers. We will NEVER see or hear from him again while he is LOCKED UP.

[ColinC]

50. He has far too much money to guarantee he won't be locked up for long if he is

I would feel more comfortable if he was just gone.

[AZ8theist]

56. The humiliation of ONE DAY in prison is worth it...

Stripped naked, cavity searched, deloused, his precious thumb communicator taken away, clad in an orange jumpsuit........

Schadenfreude.

[EndlessWire]

59. Oh, don't worry.

He has several passports, remember? We had to give them all back. I favor him leaving the country and never coming back.

[et tu]

24. or he could flee to another

foreign country like alabama lol

[Brainfodder]

26. Once he chicken shits out, can the U.S. Govt please seize all the sleaze properties & convert them to homeless shelters?

I await the special with Geraldo and the opening of the Ivana Vault!

[orleans]

27. and they should boot/ground his plane. and maybe epstein's plane that he was flying in the other day. nt

[Frank D. Lincoln]

32. "Eliason noted Tuesday that Chutkan had not required Trump to surrender his passport when he was first arraigned."

I wonder why. Chutkan seems like a no-nonsense type of judge, the exact opposite of Aileen Cannon.

I'm curious what Chutkan will do next.

[BattleRow]

33. Can he run for President of

Venezuela?

[usonian]

34. There be sharks and batteries there.

DON'T TELL HIM

He telegraphs all his moves, or as some say, he throws shit ( or ketchup) against the wall to see what sticks.

[Brenda]

35. When do you sleep Rubyshoo? How can you be one poster?

I see your posts started at almost every hour of the day.

Are you multiple people?

[Oopsie Daisy]

37. It would not stop him. Someone would be willing to take him without his passport *

* and Venezuelan authorities would welcome him without a passport.

[paleotn]

39. Where he would run to, a passport is not required for him.

I don't think customs at Sheremetyevo International Airport in Moscow is going to require that. Just saying.

[Hekate]

42. KnR

[ForgedCrank]

43. I hate

to break it to everyone because I don't want to get Brooklynite-'d, but Trump isn't gong anywhere.
He's not going to jail even if he is convicted one day. If he ran, he would lose everything and be forced to live among the regular people. You really think Trump is capable of that?
Not gonna happen.

[jg10003]

52. he wouldn't lose the millions he has in offshore

Banking accounts.

[BoRaGard]

51. Standard procedure: Take his passport

He is a threat to flee and to weasel away from the legitimate consequences of his treason against America.

[yellowcanine]

53. His passport can be cancelled electronically.

When it is scanned at a border it would show up as not a valid passport. Donny would then be put on the next plane ack to the U.S.

[jmowreader]

54. Let's inject a little reality here

Trump owns an airliner that can fly 4500 miles on one tank of gas, and Venezuela has a corrupt dictator who likes him. He could easily fly down there and have Venezuelan citizenship bestowed on himself by said dictator. Not having a passport isn't going to affect him.

Only slapping his happy ass in a cell until his trials are over is going to stop him from fleeing the country - and if he's found guilty in the DC or Georgia trials the judge needs to remand him into custody before sentencing as he is a major flight risk.

Otherwise we wind up with a replay of Winston Shrout. Winston Shrout is a sovereign citizen who was a big name in the tax protester ecosystem. After a judge sentenced him to ten years in federal prison for passing over 300 fictitious "international bills of exchange" that were supposedly worth $100 trillion and was given time before reporting to get his affairs in order, he...just disappeared thanks to his legion of supporters. It took a couple years for the government to get him back. Trump has way more supporters than Winston Shrout did and they're more violent.

[lindysalsagal]

57. Better yet: Tell interpol it's been rescinded and is no longer recognized by the US.

[EndlessWire]

60. I think any of his criminal

judges could do it, but I think that the request has to come from the prosecutors. Without that, there is nothing to answer.

Venezuela had been making plans to overtake Guyana, I think, because Guyana found an immense oil field worth really big bucks. That country is defenseless, but we sent a warship down there to warn Venezuela off. Haven't heard anything else. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the attraction.

Not too many people would hasten to haul tRump back home. But, if they did, I don't think he would be placed in an easy to last country club type prison. I think as long as the prosecutions go on, they would look for him, but if there is a mechanism to convict in absentia, then after that happens, we would stop. He'll just die in a third world with poor health care.

He could have been so different, but he's mental.

[WheelWalker]

61. FFS - put him on the first flight to Venezuela

[LetMyPeopleVote]

65. Trump's 'Venezuela' invitation to Musk raises 'fight risk' fears among legal experts

TFG is running for POTUS to stay out of prison

TFG last night discussed fleeing to Venezuela if he losses

Link to tweet

https://www.alternet.org/trump-musk-venezuela/

Legal experts jumped on Trump suggesting a trip to Venezuela, especially given his status as a convicted criminal awaiting sentencing.

“Trump is a convicted felon to be sentenced in a month and he’s talking about fleeing to a country that refuses US extradition requests,” observed MSNBC legal analyst Kristy Greenberg, a former SDNY Criminal Division Deputy Chief. “Anyone else would be in jail. Trump is showing yet again that he isn’t amenable to Probation’s supervision and must be sentenced to jail time.”

There are countries where TFG could flee which do not have an extradition treaty with the US

Link to tweet

If TFG loses, TFG will do what he can to avoid jail.

[stollen]

66. Maduro is a dictator: Trump is a wannabe.

Can't we pay for Trump's ticket to Venezuela and THEN revoke his passport? I'd hate to break up a suitable match.