The blame for what could be a bleak four years

[Aviation Pro]

Does not lie at the feet of the Democrats or VP Harris, but squarely on the pointy heads of the brain-dead, uncaring, fucking morons who voted for a convicted felon and rapist.

They need to be reminded of that over-and-over again as they sink into the abyss of financial and personal ruin.

[Turbineguy]

1. Yes, indeedie.

But Democrats need to learn how to talk to braindead morons.

Single syllable words, no logic, superstition, and all that.

[mwooldri]

10. Not just Democrats.

Faith leaders need to step up too. Conservative evangelicals are in sin right now and are not right with Jesus. Especially when Christianity and Trumpism are not compatible with each other. We could do with a Billy Graham type character who can prosthelytize the Good News without injecting right wing politics into it; the religious right has hijacked my faith.

But overall simple message. Black and white.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

18. Yep.

[Redleg]

3. Trump sold a dark vision, Harris sold an optimistic vision

A slight majority bought the dark vision. Fuck them.

[WarGamer]

4. whatever... make the sale or lose elections.

[NBachers]

8. Zero recs

[WarGamer]

9. So? It's reality.

[Skittles]

13. WE didn't lose, AMERICA did

get it right

[WarGamer]

14. semantics.

[Skittles]

15. NO, IT IS *NOT* SEMANTICS

Trump voters either do not SEE the impending fascism, or they see it and they APPROVE

EITHER WAY, IT IS AMERICA THAT LOSES

GET IT RIGHT

[Redleg]

16. Didn't you know the burden of proof is always on the Democrats?

The MAGAts can lie continually, pervasively, and arrogantly and with impunity. The media believes it's always the fault of Dems for not "selling their brand" and for being "out of touch" with large parts of America. While I do believe Dems should find better ways to message, I get sick of this one-sided criticism of Dems. I wonder if there was any way that the Harris-Walz campaign could have actually reached enough of these Trump voters to make an electoral difference.

[Skittles]

17. yes I KNOW THIS

CERTAIN DUers need some enlightenment.....

[Redleg]

20. LOL. I didn't mean to suggest that you personally didn't know.

You are right that some DUers need a bit of a nudge.

[Aviation Pro]

5. Have a great day

….

[Skittles]

12. we really shouldn't engage with them

ya know?

[jayschool2013]

6. It was an open-book test

Yet we still failed.

[iluvtennis]

7. Absolutely.

[Cirsium]

11. Both are true

The Democratic party leadership definitely bears full responsibility for their stunning failure.

At the same time, Trump supporters have gone off the deep end and are untrustworthy and dangerous.

It is not either/or.

As for the Trump supporters sinking into the abyss of financial and personal ruin and ever having any regrets, we can look to history.

Here is what journalist William Shirer said after interviewing everyday Germans at the end of WWII, with every German city in ruins, a generation of young men dead or wounded, and millions of innocents tortured and murdered.

"There was so much that was true that did not make sense: the monumental apathy of the German people and their deep regret, not that they had started the war, but merely that they had lost it; their whining complaints at the lack of food and fuel and their total lack of sympathy or even interest in the worse plight of the occupied peoples, for which they bore so much responsibility; their boredom at the very mention of the Nuremberg trial, which they were convinced was only an Allied propaganda stunt; their striking unreadiness for, or interest in, democracy, which we, with typical Anglo-Saxon fervor and blindness, were trying to shove down their throats."

― William L. Shirer, End of a Berlin Diary

[Initech]

19. And people voted for the fucking asshole out of pure spite, malice and hatred.

And for that, it's impossible to look them in the eye and say we're on the same footing. Because they chose this.

[Bettie]

21. The media chose which vision

to highlight.

Everything Democrats do is picked apart and found wanting by the media...not good enough.

Republicans not outright murdering people is praised as if it is the greatest statesmanship in history.

That's the other piece of that.

[TheProle]

22. A simple calculation

Biden 2020: 81,284,666 votes
Harris 2024: 74,749,851 votes

'People who voted D' in 2020 minus 'People who voted D' in 2024 = 6,534,815

If just half of those who voted for Biden in 2020 but sat out in '24 had voted for Harris, she'd be President.