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melm00se

(5,077 posts)
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 04:16 PM Dec 1

I have been reading

Washington: A Life and thinking how stark the difference is between 2 American leaders. the 1st and the next one. These two quotes really sum it up how far apart these 2 men are:

At the present time my forces consist entirely of Haslet’s Delaware militia and Smallwood’s Marylanders – a total of 5000 troops to stand against 25,000 of the enemy, and I begin to notice that many of us are lads under 15 and old men, none of whom could truly be called soldiers.

As I write these words the enemy is plainly in sight beyond the river. How it will end only Providence can direct, but dear God what brave men I shall lose before this business ends.

G. Washington, 1776


and

Why should I go to [Aisne-Marne American] cemetery? It’s filled with losers.

D. Trump, 2018



Put yourself in Washington's shoes: Unlike us, he had no idea how "this business" was going to end but despite the overwhelming odds, he rode out and took to the field and mourned the men he knew he was going to lose. (This is why I, personally, put Washington at the top of the president's list above Lincoln and FDR).

I cannot perceive a situation where Trump would show the even the smallest sliver of Washington's bravery and compassion.

From the great to...whatever the hell Trump is (and it isn't in the same universe as great).
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I have been reading (Original Post) melm00se Dec 1 OP
wow...what a great leader he was, for sure. FirstLight Dec 1 #1
Trump in the Revolutionary war. keithbvadu2 Dec 1 #2
The quote form Washington Staph Dec 1 #3
We stand on the shoulders of giants. paleotn Dec 1 #4
The 18th century was a bumper crop melm00se Dec 1 #5
Lol! Exactly! paleotn Dec 2 #6

FirstLight

(14,381 posts)
1. wow...what a great leader he was, for sure.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 04:26 PM
Dec 1

I love the compassion AND the eloquence. Did people really talk like that? (yes, I am sure they did)

Alas, how far we have fallen...

Staph

(6,366 posts)
3. The quote form Washington
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 05:56 PM
Dec 1

is also used in the musical 1776, in one of the most poignant moments. It always brings a tear to my eye.


paleotn

(19,737 posts)
4. We stand on the shoulders of giants.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 07:23 PM
Dec 1

They weren't perfect by any means. Their faults were many, but talk about grit. Another greatest American generation.

I'm sure you read about the Jumonville Glen incident in the Ohio Country in 1754. How a young and inexperienced Washington accidentally helped touch of a world war. The 7 Years War. Not many can claim that. He had one heck of a resume.

melm00se

(5,077 posts)
5. The 18th century was a bumper crop
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 08:57 PM
Dec 1

of wars. Washington takes some heat for the 7 Years War but it was going to happen as the War of Austrian Succession didn't really resolve anything. France and Britain were doing this to each other



across the Channel, across the St. Lawrence, Niagara, Allegheny and Monongahela rivers and it was going to happen no matter what.

paleotn

(19,737 posts)
6. Lol! Exactly!
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:59 PM
Dec 2

They were doing that to each other from William in 1066 until the 19th century.

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