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303squadron

(688 posts)
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 05:49 PM Dec 1

Remember that dinner with my MAGA family?

Yes, we went. No, even though we didn’t discuss politics, it didn’t go well. My brother in law seemed to be just itching to take offense and he did on a trivial matter. I’ve never seen him so exceedingly pissed.

But I wanted to share with the group here an observation. On one side of the restaurant booth sat my sister in law with her husband. Evangelical MAGA red. Being that she’s my sister in law there is no blood relationship.

On the other side of that booth with me sat my wife and my sister.

And here is the observation I made days after the fact: our side of the booth had family histories touched by the Holocaust….. and their side didn’t.

They don’t care about the similarities between America in 2024 and Germany in 1938 because they have no skin in the game. And just like every belt buckle worn by Nazi troops in WWII said, they have God with them.

We have broken off contact. I am forced to concede they believe they are truly the master race.

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Remember that dinner with my MAGA family? (Original Post) 303squadron Dec 1 OP
Why does America have so many narrow minded idiots? Dem4life1234 Dec 1 #1
Because they've been brainwashed and lied to by idiots on TV, radio, church, etc. Initech Dec 1 #14
We seriously are watching history repeat itself. Initech Dec 1 #2
There is no America to save the day Cosmocat Dec 1 #17
That America was murdered on 11/5/24. Initech Dec 1 #18
You forgot stupid people. Eggs are too expensive types. JanMichael Dec 1 #19
That can be attributed to Fox News and talk radio. Initech Dec 1 #20
Don't forget the fact that over half of 'murican adults read at or below a 6th grade level groundloop Dec 2 #28
Oh, yes not fooled Dec 2 #29
Done in, not by Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, but kairos12 Dec 2 #22
Yep Cosmocat Dec 2 #21
That America was murdered 11/22/1963 Clouds Passing Dec 2 #24
First is was 9/11 and then Covid. It has boiled the brains Klarkashton Dec 1 #3
When it became clear that Fuckface was going to win... Initech Dec 1 #8
For what it's worth... Mike Nelson Dec 1 #4
Well said and I agree. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #5
Same with me. HUAJIAO Dec 1 #9
If you've ever lived on this planet or intend to, your life has been touched by the Holocaust. Girard442 Dec 1 #12
Just what I was going to say soldierant Dec 1 #13
Same here Clouds Passing Dec 2 #25
And here. calimary Dec 4 #35
Similar situation with my extended family a few years back. no_hypocrisy Dec 1 #6
I would've left. But that's just me. HUAJIAO Dec 1 #10
Well, the food WAS good . . . . . no_hypocrisy Dec 1 #11
Bravo for your patience and consideration of others. HUAJIAO Dec 1 #16
I'm so sorry things did not go well. HeartsCanHope Dec 1 #7
MAGGOTS are the top "Sore- winner-MEN" of American History.... Jack Valentino Dec 1 #15
So many good Germans. So many good Americans. Chilling. Joinfortmill Dec 2 #23
My cynicism gets worse daily and I don't like it. I have lost faith in the goodness of my fellow citizen. walkingman Dec 2 #26
They all seen to not miss the joy we all once shared randr Dec 2 #27
Sorry to hear. Pretty horrible. LymphocyteLover Dec 2 #30
There's an extreme MAGA woman in my neighborhood whose mom was actually in a Nazi concentration camp. SunSeeker Dec 2 #31
People were saturated with lies. Propaganda works. Hassler Dec 2 #32
This was the first "TikTok Twitter" election. All the disinformation believed by the fools. Callie1979 Dec 2 #33
Very interesting ThePartyThatListens Dec 2 #34

Initech

(102,293 posts)
2. We seriously are watching history repeat itself.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 06:04 PM
Dec 1

I don't think it's going to have a happy ending this time around.

Initech

(102,293 posts)
18. That America was murdered on 11/5/24.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 11:13 PM
Dec 1

Its' killers were radio call in hosts, neo-Nazis, megachurches, and a hostile propaganda outlet calling itself "news".

Initech

(102,293 posts)
20. That can be attributed to Fox News and talk radio.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 11:32 PM
Dec 1

If you want to stop the problem. go to the source, I say!

groundloop

(12,341 posts)
28. Don't forget the fact that over half of 'murican adults read at or below a 6th grade level
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:45 PM
Dec 2

Our damned country has become fucking stupid, and as such most people don't know enough to question anything that doesn't sound right. They just blindly accept the bullshit they're told by fox "news" and right wing podcasters.

We're doomed.

not fooled

(6,092 posts)
29. Oh, yes
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 02:20 PM
Dec 2

And then they attribute their narrow-minded, ignorant views to "common sense" and "personal experience" instead of propaganda and lack of critical thinking skills to assess said propaganda. So, they think they know more than anyone else because they are not relying on experts and science.



kairos12

(13,269 posts)
22. Done in, not by Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, but
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 07:47 AM
Dec 2

by demented egg voters. At some level all I can do is laugh.

Klarkashton

(2,245 posts)
3. First is was 9/11 and then Covid. It has boiled the brains
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 06:16 PM
Dec 1

Of weak minded people that can't take the heat.

They have snapped and have gone all nationalist and fucked up. All this make America great and shit makes them feel more secure in their stupidity.

Initech

(102,293 posts)
8. When it became clear that Fuckface was going to win...
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 07:17 PM
Dec 1

I had the same sense of dread and despair that I had on 9/11. Like It was a legit attack on the United States of America. Like what do we do now?

Mike Nelson

(10,335 posts)
4. For what it's worth...
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 06:19 PM
Dec 1

...I have no "family histories touched by the Holocaust," either, but I'm human; I sit with you.

Girard442

(6,416 posts)
12. If you've ever lived on this planet or intend to, your life has been touched by the Holocaust.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 08:02 PM
Dec 1

To know that a country of educated people in the 20th century would exterminate 6 million other people for no other reason than their religion/ethnicity has changed the world forever.

no_hypocrisy

(49,044 posts)
6. Similar situation with my extended family a few years back.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 06:42 PM
Dec 1

My sister's husband's brother's family included me and I was grateful.

But brother's son was 18 and insisted on wearing MAGA hat to T-day dinner table. Wouldn't take it off.

And I silently considered that this is a Jewish family and Trump has vastly inspired antisemitism and here's this kid proudly, if not defiantly wearing a MAGA hat.

I haven't returned.

HeartsCanHope

(747 posts)
7. I'm so sorry things did not go well.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 07:06 PM
Dec 1

The holidays are always hard when you deal with family. I don't celebrate with family any longer, but when I did someone was always causing drama. I think your choice to break off contact is a good one. You don't need that added stress. Take care.

Jack Valentino

(1,468 posts)
15. MAGGOTS are the top "Sore- winner-MEN" of American History....
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 10:27 PM
Dec 1

Winning the election isn't enough for them---
they want us to get down on our knees to them,
and proclaim that every opinion they every vomited out of their mouth,
was true, correct and right....


Sorry, No can do. I am male and white and old,
but not stupid enough to support their cult leader.

Something something 'Thomas Crooks' mumble mumble...



walkingman

(8,464 posts)
26. My cynicism gets worse daily and I don't like it. I have lost faith in the goodness of my fellow citizen.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 10:02 AM
Dec 2

I just cannot believe the stuff I read or see lately. I've been watching some "Democracy Now" episodes and the state of the world is ...not good. When I see the hardship that so many people are going through around the world it makes me thankful that I have such an easy life - even in Texas which is kind of disgusting in itself.

We decide not to have family over this Thanksgiving, a first for us in a while, because of the situation you described. Oddly, it seems we are the only ones in our family that celebrate Thanksgiving in what I would call a traditional sense - having family over. Maybe because that is how we grew up? and it just seems nomal for the wife to work her ass off preparing a meal for everyone so they can come and re-connect once a year or so?

Enough rant.....☮

SunSeeker

(53,934 posts)
31. There's an extreme MAGA woman in my neighborhood whose mom was actually in a Nazi concentration camp.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 05:21 PM
Dec 2

And every time you say that Trump is racist or fascist to her, she gets all offended and throws the fact of her mom back in your face. She's all over the neighborhood Nextdoor page spreading her bile. Whenever someone points out how awful Trump is, she immediately shuts down the conversation by saying something like how dare anyone compare Trump to Hitler, that it's an insult to her mother (now passed away) who knew what a fascist was. She basically uses her dead Holocaust survivor mom to protect Trump.

Callie1979

(154 posts)
33. This was the first "TikTok Twitter" election. All the disinformation believed by the fools.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 05:52 PM
Dec 2

And it'll only get worse.

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