Why all the posts dismissing the murder of UnitedHealth CEO in New York?

[question everything]

Yes, it is the poster child of the for profit health insurance and, no doubt, many subscribers died because of the treatment the received but are we now following Whiny and Musk in “eliminating” enemies?

Is this the new face of DU?

[leftstreet]

1. Its funny

These fcker's and their for profit companies murder us, and shareholders applaud

[question everything]

4. Oh, so now we are in an eye for an eye society? Perhaps Whiny is the right one to lead us

[leftstreet]

16. Well to make it equal a whole lot of CEOs would have to, never mind

[ck4829]

18. Pretty sure if something happened to my eye, UHC would be "Well, you still have the other one, don't you?"

[Trekologer]

61. The eye surgery is not medically necessary

Reviewed by their crack squad of noone.

[atreides1]

25. Guess what?

This has always been an eye for eye society.

[Think. Again.]

27. Are you accusing DU members of doing something to the people we disagree with?

[question everything]

146. It is not "doing" it is applauding a murder. A murder! What sense of moral is this?

[Think. Again.]

150. oh, okay, my apologies...

...it sounded to me that you were saying WE were the cause of his death.

But you should read the posts again, I don't think anyone's applauding the murder, just the death.

[soandso]

168. And what caused his death?

You keep posting as though the two things are unrelated.

[Think. Again.]

188. There IS a difference between ....

....discussing the murderer's actions and discussing the victim's life and death.

Sometimes how a person dies isn't related to the fact they are no longer doing the things they did in life.

[Scrivener7]

133. An eye for an eye would apply only if someone here killed him. This is a bit dramatic.

[Wiz Imp]

111. Disgusting. Cold blooded murder, whoever the victim, is never funny.

[MustLoveBeagles]

148. Thank you

[LiberalArkie]

113. Bring in the gullotine

[soandso]

169. It appears some here would like that

Pretty sure they don't know the history, though, and how all that turned out.

[Skittles]

135. nothing funny about vigilante justice

it is uncivilized

[MustLoveBeagles]

152. Correct

[orangecrush]

162. ...

?si=GIMb3J0ZXdkQNyKX

[SWBTATTReg]

2. Don't lump all of DU into this category...a lot of us aren't this way. NT

[question everything]

9. No of course not. But there are several posts reporting the murder, the first, with more than 100

responses are full of glee

[SWBTATTReg]

37. Yeah, I saw this. People are entitled to their opinions, but it doesn't mean I have to like them, or agree w/ them...

this is one case for me. Killing someone is rather extreme.

The very nature of the killing makes it sound like a 'hit', which makes me think that someone was mad at him to warrant them to put out a hit on them either by contracting it out or doing it themselves. A little extreme. Owning a bookmaker lots of money doesn't sound reasonable being that the guy made lots of money. So, the other, maybe reasonable excuse is health care denied in an unfortunate case, where the patient denied died as a result of the denial.

It's too bad that health care decisions (if the reason why the assassination occurred) are often out of the hands of the patients and their immediate doctors, it seems like. On the other hand, sometimes the health care agency is too intrusive, like mine is, pushing me to get procedures done for no reason at all in my mind, that is, I've never had anything happen that warranted such procedures.

It's aggravating, and sometimes too much, especially if you take them up on the offer, then they'll turn around later and deny you later care regarding that same, slightly different procedure.

[Scrivener7]

134. None of us is "this way." No one here "eliminated" anyone, as the OP is claiming. Ridiculously.

[question everything]

147. No, not "eliminating" but applauding a cold blooded murder

[soandso]

171. The OP did not make any such claim

They asked what was with all of the posts applauding the murder and there have been a lot.

[Scrivener7]

189. Actually, they did.

"are we now following Whiny and Musk in “eliminating” enemies?"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19788023

[soandso]

196. Fair enough

You have a point.

[Abolishinist]

170. But many are, which is rather disgusting to me.

[BannonsLiver]

3. Everyone grab a black arm band and start mourning harder.

[leftstreet]

7. ...

[dalton99a]

10. His estate should do a GoFundMe

and see the replies

[BannonsLiver]

46. If the ER docs were out of network it might be needed.

[Jilly_in_VA]

141. That's bad!

[XanaDUer2]

48. Lol nt

[Coventina]

142. I laughed out loud!!

[Shellback Squid]

5. I agree, it's morbid

[tritsofme]

6. Trump has poisoned our entire body politic.

You see it in things like this, support for authoritarian policies, people advocating in favor of coups.

It is a sad state of affairs we find ourselves in.

[NewHendoLib]

23. Absolutely.

[EarnestPutz]

127. Poison is the right word. Our politics and our society.

[Elessar Zappa]

8. Murder is murder and whomever killed him should be prosecuted.

That said, I don’t give a damn that he was killed. One less greedy monster doesn’t keep me up at night.

[Think. Again.]

30. Thank you, I don't know the guy personally so I'm not hurt by his demise...

...but I do know the suffering his profiteering causes, so yes, I'm glad he's not around anymore.

[jimfields33]

73. The reason I don't mind the negative comments is

because when the abortion doctor was murdered, they were full of glee and high fiving each other. Sorry, but I remember that. It was repulsive. I’m not going to banish anyone doing the same with this guy.

[question everything]

149. So we are being reduced to be like them?

[jimfields33]

167. I'm reading the thread.

[Dennis Donovan]

11. Are you complaining we aren't mourning this man enough?

If you're saying that there's open celebrating on DU, I just haven't seen it.

[question everything]

143. No. There is a difference between not mourning, shrugging even, and applauding which many comments

on this and other threads are.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. okay but I don't think when people say they want to eat the rich they want to do it while the person is still alive

[CrispyQ]

26. I would at least want them cooked first.

[EdmondDantes_]

80. Of course, too many parasites otherwise

[Fullduplexxx]

13. Im sure he was all broken up about the deaths of people he caused through his company's policies

[question everything]

144. And thus deserved to die? What kind of a moral is it?

[Fullduplexxx]

151. I dont know but he did

[intheflow]

195. It's called karma.

Karma is morally neutral.

[soandso]

173. That isn't the point

He may have been a callous bean counter, true. People have said United Healthcare or whatever they're called is the worst for denying claims. The point is, though, what kind of people applaud murder. That's worthy of a dispassionate and rational discussion. I'd have to say that it illustrates how far anyone can fall when consumed by rage and resentment. Totally understandable and very human but is it good?

[tenderfoot]

14. I don't recall DU being very nice when Jerry Falwell or Rush Limbaugh bought it.

So, I guess it depends on who died.

[Bengus81]

29. Yeah,when pillboy croaked I was filled with glee,still am!!

[tenderfoot]

32. I didn't lose any sleep when Breitbart dropped dead.

I'm a bad person... I guess.

[LeftInTX]

72. Natural causes.

If they were murdered, then it would devolve into a fight.

[Emile]

15. Not much justice these days.

[sarisataka]

17. DU is against gun violence

unless it happens to someone we feel is getting their just desserts. That isn't really new, but was usually limited to people somehow connected to guns themselves.

It is alarming that this case the murder is "tolerated" because of his position in his company. There have been several suggestions that CEOs should have to fear for their lives and at least one explicitly suggesting more assassinations.

I am not sure if the influence of the incoming administration is affecting DUers, or maybe we just aren't as good as we like to tell ourselves we are.

[Think. Again.]

34. The guy profiteered off of other people's suffering.

Period.

[sarisataka]

38. I rest my case.

[Think. Again.]

49. you should.

[LisaM]

96. Thanks, you put it very well.

The fact that someone is murdered in Manhattan in broad daylight on the way to a meeting is intolerable. DU is, should be, against gun violence. Period.

[Scrivener7]

138. Making a joke about karma or copays is a far cry from tolerating his killing.

Really, the drama in this thread is reminiscent of a middle-school theater club.

[Silent Type]

19. +1. Our healthcare system -- or lack of it -- sucks. But most blame belongs to Congress for not enacting

a better system. Obviously, most of that blame is on GOPers.

But, I expect plenty more dancing on this guy's grave. Interestingly, I just looked and their stock is up 1.03%.

[Think. Again.]

39. I believe some of the blame still does rest with...

...people like this guy who was more than willing to enrich himself excessively off of our bad system, and actually agreed to have his company pay lobbyists to create this bad system.

[Silent Type]

59. Don't mind the blame, but shooting him or dancing on his grave is unnecessary. Voters have approved the system

we have. Harris sure didn't run on changing the healthcare system, likely because it would have been a loser in this election.

[Think. Again.]

62. I did not shoot him, and I don't care that he is dead.

[soandso]

175. While Rs sure had to be involved

Bill Clinton signed it into law.

Medicare Advantage, originally known as Medicare+Choice, was established by the Balanced Budget Act of 1997.

Balanced budget act? I guess they didn't really mean that part.

[Silent Type]

176. I know. For whatever reason, we have not been able to get universal healthcare or even a Public Option.

Too many voters don’t want one option, and that includes a number of Democrats. Even if we could avoid insurance company lobbying, doctors and hospital lobbying, etc., I’m not sure we can convince half the voters it’s better in foreseeable future.

It’s disappointing.

[soandso]

180. I agree

I support freedom of choice so support the public option.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

178. Bullshit.

The health insurance system is 100% behind keeping their cash cow in place. Even here when we talk about single payer, the response is, "What about private insurance." Fuck them all. We deserve a better health care system than these dicks have given us.

I won't lose 2 seconds sleep over this douchebag being killed.

[Silent Type]

182. As were buggy whip manufacturers. When do you think Congress will enact a better system and will voters

accept it if it’s like original Medicare-for-all? Until they do, we are stuck with what we have. Even the ACA is based upon private insurers.

[CrispyQ]

20. One can appreciate the dark irony without condoning murder. -nt

[Algernon Moncrieff]

21. Apropos of nothing. EE Cummings on the death of President Harding

the first president to be loved by his
bitterest enemies " is dead

the only man woman or child who wrote
a simple declarative sentence with seven grammatical
errors " is dead "
beautiful Warren Gamaliel Harding
" is " dead
he's
" dead "
if he wouldn't have eaten them Yapanese Craps

somebody might hardly never not have been unsorry, perhaps.

[Think. Again.]

22. "We" are not "eliminating" anybody.

[RockRaven]

24. It is hardly new for people to be indifferent to the suffering of those who

oversee or engineer human misery at the mass scale.

We see it with politicians and religious leaders, why not business types too? I don't think there is anything novel about what I've seen thus far.

[Think. Again.]

41. Well said.

[LeftInTX]

75. Murder is the issue. We don't even know the motive.

How many politicians and religious leaders are murdered?

The Trump shootings were a big deal.

[RockRaven]

84. How many politicians and religious leaders are murdered? A lot. Like, all the time.

Consider Gaza and Lebanon the past few months, and look how DU responds to various public figures' deaths.

And we have business type examples, consider Russian oligarchs "falling out of windows" or "hanging themselves" and look how DU responds to those deaths.

The response to this UHC guy isn't a "new DU" as was opined in the OP. It is in line with prior similar events.

If one finds those responses unpalatable and in need of change, that's fine, but one gets nowhere by misdiagnosing these responses as new or unique.

[LeftInTX]

105. In the US? I thought you were talking about here.

Yes, political assassinations are common in unstable areas. They are not common in the US.

Murder of CEOs occur from time to time here in the US. We don't know the motive in this case.

I can think of numerous motives. Often, it is a power struggle within the corporation. Someone else wants the job. However, with an open hit, it doesn't look that way.

ETA: A few CEOs were targets of the unibomber.

[Prairie Gates]

28. A Post About DU

[Jacson6]

31. This is no different then back in the 1970's in Detroit, MI

When a black child was murdered the whites would say he was a drug dealer and deserved it. Do research on Young Boys, Inc for an answer to the puzzled look on your face that you have now.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

36. whew it is actually quite a bit different

[Think. Again.]

43. You are extremely wrong.

[sarisataka]

44. Yeah,

it's nothing like that

[BlueTsunami2018]

33. I'm indifferent to what happened.

I’m not happy, I’m not sad.

[soandso]

179. Same

But I think the circumstances of the murder, who he was and the reactions to it are interesting to observe.

[edhopper]

35. Who gives a fuck about this fucker

"UnitedHealthcare is the worst insurance company for paying claims with about one-third of claims denied."

How many people has he killed?

[claudette]

53. His family

And murder is not the answer

[edhopper]

117. There is blood on his hands

I'll grieve for the family of all those who died because he denied their insurance claim.

[claudette]

119. So killing him

Was justified in your mind? He didn’t murder anyone

[edhopper]

158. But he did

Denying care someone needed to live is murder. And he is a serial killer.
So I feel nothing for his death, but please, show me where I said the murder was justified.

[soandso]

181. Is it, though?

Justified, righteous, etc? I think that's an important philosophical question.

[edhopper]

193. Again

shedding no tears over this asshat and his family is not the same as saying the killing was justified.
A distinction many here can't seem to make.

[soandso]

197. I understand the difference

and wanting these fuckers to pay for their actions. I'm more commenting on where all that might lead, as well as how that kind of rage effects the person holding it.

Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.
- Confusius

[edhopper]

198. Should we not have

Outrage at what is happening in this country?

[soandso]

199. Yes, though I'm not sure how to deal with or control it

[stopdiggin]

40. you underestimate the amount of reactionary sentiment here

(and lower tier 'reactionary' at that)
and then you have to ladle on a good helping of the just plain foolish and unthinking ...

The ethics played out here are certainly nothing approaching admirable or pristine. (and sometimes fall short of bare minimum)

(and, no - it's been that way for a good while .. )

[OilemFirchen]

52. Yup. Welcome to the new Yippee Kay Yay Yay Underground.

It'll return to a semblance of normalcy at some point, of course. For now, though, I'm like

[Greg_In_SF]

42. Kind of sick if you ask me

Would we be making jokes if he still worked at Price Waterhouse?

Two children are now without their Father because of a cold blooded murder.

[Think. Again.]

45. I would bet the phrase...

"Two children are now without their Father because of a cold blooded murder."

...would apply to at least one of the families his company denied coverage to.

[tenderfoot]

50. He was paid up to 10 million a year. His children will be fine.

eom

[claudette]

54. Money doesn't

replace a father. What a cold response. Have liberals lost all compassion?

[tenderfoot]

56. Compassion? Go tell it to the people who had claims denied by United Healthcare.

eom

[claudette]

82. So you're

saying murder is the answer. It is unbelievable.

[tenderfoot]

88. Not what I said at all but thank you for letting us know that you support for profit health care.

eom

[claudette]

97. But it's

the unspoken idea behind what you did say

[tenderfoot]

100. You're just making things up now.

Good day to you.

[claudette]

102. No

You’re just ignoring the truth. Read over some of the comments.

[tenderfoot]

104. Comments: United Health Care is the leading health insurance company in claim denials.

And that's the truth.

[claudette]

120. So you're

saying denial of coverage murdered people so he had it coming? What does denial of coverage have to do with it?

[tenderfoot]

121. Where did I say that?

Quit making shit up.

[ck4829]

93. This is unbelievable and murder

Last edited Wed Dec 4, 2024, 02:38 PM - Edit history (1)

That shorter life expectancy is from people not seeking preventative care or needed care because it is too expensive, it is from people not getting mental health help because it is prohibitively expensive, it is from people getting bankrupted from medical bills and still dying anyway, it is from people not wanting to be a "burden" to their families.

But hey, some people are making money off of it, so it's the "good" kind of murder.

There is no excuse for this.

[claudette]

101. Doesn't justify

murdering the CEO of the company. Nothing justifies killing someone. It isn’t even self defense. I cannot believe you are trying to convince people that his murder was ok

[soandso]

183. All that shows is expenditure doesn't improved life expectancy

I hate insurance companies as much as the next person but that doesn't prove what you hoped. It may indicate that Americans have a shitty diet or depend too much on harmful pharma with deadly side effects. It may mean we work too much or have too much stress (though not likely because the Japanese work more). Hard to say and it's bad but there are lots of things that impact life expectancy.

[Upthevibe]

131. Greg_In_SF .......

I wonder how many children are without their Fathers, Mothers, Brothers, Sisters, Aunts, and Uncles because of the claims denied by his company? I'd bet it's in the 10's of thousands...

[usonian]

47. "eliminating" enemies? DU'ers?

Why do you think we post here.

SO WE HAVE ALIBI'S

No idea who or why yet. It ain't our fault.

[Prairie Gates]

69. LOL

[soandso]

184. Okay, now, that's funny

*note to self: stay logged in to DU at all times.

[claudette]

51. Agree

Murder is not the solution. It’s disheartening to think people might justify this.

[tenderfoot]

60. No one is justifying ANYTHING. Many just simply couldn't care less.

eom

[ck4829]

63. Insufficient mourning for your cultural and economic superior? You should feel ashamed!

100 days of mourning, tear out your hair, and a day of straight wailing and crying! This is demanded!

Not wanting to do this means you are a murder-supporting anarchist socialist!!!!111!!!ONE!

[tenderfoot]

65. I'm mourned fatigued over the death of Bernie Marcus

[claudette]

94. And yet

some here were outraged when magats celebrated Justice RBG’s death and they are doing the same thing

[happy feet]

128. I didn't care when maga's did that

And I’m totally non plussed about the CEO’s murder. You’re attributing to DUets this attitude - doesn’t apply to me and others.

[claudette]

86. Oh please

A little common decency for the loss of life is enough

[ck4829]

108. Decency?

[tenderfoot]

122. So you're saying that a insurer's letter to a newborn denying coverage makes murder justified?

[Upthevibe]

139. tenderfoot

IT'S CALLED KARMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I advise all DU'ers to watch a documentary called, The Corporation. Here's a video and a discussion about corporations:

[claudette]

85. Oh yes

Some are saying his company denied claims therefore he deserves to die for that. So sickening to think some here actually believe murder was the correct RETRIBUTION. Ring a bell?

[tenderfoot]

91. Who said he deserves to die? Post links.

[claudette]

98. Not those

exact words but the meaning behind their cold blooded comments. You can’t sugar coat what is being said

[tenderfoot]

103. What's being said? That UHC is the leading insurance company that denies claims.

All I'm seeing is facts about the company and that the now deceased CEO made up to 10 million a year.

[ck4829]

107. Yeah, but those are the poors, so who cares, right?

[tenderfoot]

109. Stop with that grave dancing. UHC employees have to pay extra to have their own family members covered.

What has become of this place?

[happy feet]

55. I'm not dismissive,

Just don’t care. I’ve been insured by United Healthcare for most of my life.

[milestogo]

57. Because hate is contagious.

A man was gunned down when as he arrived at a building.

Before all else he is a human being, and he did not deserve this.

[stillcool]

58. if only I were a perfect person

living in a perfect world, thinking perfect thoughts...I might fit in here?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

64. My thoughts and prayers are out of network.

[dalton99a]

74. +1

[XanaDUer2]

76. Omg lol!

Nt

[leftstreet]

126. LOL

[Jilly_in_VA]

145. Okay

I know I'm going to hell for laughing so hard at that one!

[MineralMan]

66. I have made no comment so far about this.

I will be interested to learn who shot him and what his reason was. At that point, I might have a comment.

Too many people are killed by gunshot for me to comment on yet another one, without any more information.

[Klarkashton]

67. I care as much about that guy as he would care if

Somebody shot me.

[Mosby]

68. At least we're not this guy

I hope.

Link to tweet

[ck4829]

70. I'm not Stu, that's for sure

[sarisataka]

71. We may not be him

but we are not as different from him as we tell the person in the mirror

[Celerity]

155. the bloke in the video is not Stu, Stu is the who is trying to doxx him

[Bettie]

77. I do think it is probably someone

who was screwed over by UHC in one way or another.

Why is that so out of the box?

As for Trump/Musk....I assume that people like him are 100% pro-whatever-the-fuck that orange motherfucker is going to do.

[Seeking Serenity]

78. Are you serious? This forum has the reigning National Champion Grave Dancing Team

I've seen it and seen it.

[tonkatoy8888]

81. I don't celebrate his death

I don't mourn his death.

I just do not give a fuck.

Just as when a cartel leader leader is gunned down or a mafioso gets blown up with a car bomb. When you traffic in death and the destruction of families sometimes bad things happen to you.

[question everything]

154. And I hope that most of us would react similarly. But the amount of glee on these pages should worry us

[jrthin]

157. I don't see glee. I see disgust.

[Asa13]

83. Honestly cause fuck that guy

[gay texan]

87. Having been personally screwed over by this company more times than i can count

for services i paid for, and DESPERATELY needed, I hope the guy suffered greatly on the ride to the hospital.

I shouldn't have to justify my continued existence to a fucking corporation get life saving treatment.

So, i hope the look of total fear was on his face and i hope he had an agonizing miserable death.

I hope the people he killed get some closure

[XanaDUer2]

106. I'm so sorry you went through that nt

[ck4829]

114. That's awful, I am sorry that happened to you

[Upthevibe]

140. gay texan.........

I'm sorry for what you've gone through.

[electric_blue68]

200. So sorry you experienced the fear, and physical effects of being denied care.

"I shouldn't have to justify my continued existence to a fucking corporation get life saving treatment.".

THIS! ☝️☝️☝️

[gay texan]

202. I was in a tremendous amount of pain, couldnt walk

I needed a simple procedure.

Year long fucking battle with this company. Finally got it done. Then they tried to wiggle their way out of paying. They PURPOSELY kept making a single mistake on the account number. Countless fucking bills, countless hours of back and forth, hours of missed work.

Next time it was my anti depressants, emotional roller coaster ride, got really out of it.

On and on and on, ALL United HC!!

Through no fault of my own, i am NOW on UHC again, and fighting with med refills on a "caddy" policy i have through my employer.

I know i have sleep apnea, they wont approve the test.

So fuck him. I stand 100% behind my statement. I hope he felt real proper pain on his way out.

[electric_blue68]

204. Woah, bad experiences! Terrible, and still happening! I understand....

Just asking bc my sis has sleep apena, went through the tests etc

I, having no idea about costs, and various types of C PACS...
Is there any kind of lower cost one that, while not totally relieving it at least cut down on the intensity, and/or frequency? Just in case, you hadn't thought of this (should it be possible).

Wishing you some some better outcomes! And soon.

[Buzz cook]

89. I just don't care

Lots of shootings in the United States. This one is no more ore less important than any other.

Don't want to hear about it on repeat for the nest two or three days.
My sympathies to his family, just as it goes to the families of all shooting victims.

[dchill]

90. Who eliminated whom? Again?

[Gore1FL]

92. I don't get it either.

I'm not fond of the business model. A person dying doesn't fix anything, though.

[TBF]

95. If you don't understand the "why" I don't think anything I can say will help.

What you really mean is "I don't want you to say these things". And if you're going to do it, be honest about it. Explain why you think they are wrong.

[harumph]

99. He's a symbol of wealth, greed, indifference - that's what people are reacting to.

He's probably a father as well. But really, he's both isn't he? It's human nature to (if not wish ill on those who we
perceive as hurting us.., to be unsympathetic). I'm sure if any of us knew him personally, we would be horrified.
But in the big picture, shit like this is unavoidable when wealth inequality is completely out of bounds by any reasonable
measure. People have a sense of fairness. People seek balance.

[soandso]

185. This is probably the most honest post about it I've seen

People hate insurance companies because they deny too many claims. He's wealthy so in comes envy and resentment. Wealth disparity is a serious problem and can lead to some very bad outcomes when people are mad enough about it.

[Strelnikov_]

110. Looks like the insider trading charges

were settled out of court.

[LeftInTX]

112. Thanks for this info.

[yaesu]

115. All I know is I don't give a rats ass about any fascist. nt

[Abolishinist]

172. Do tell. Please give your definition of 'fascist',

and then show how Brian Thompson fits your definition.

[gay texan]

116. let me tell you a story, circa 1975

I was a wee toddler and at my Grandmothers house. She had a cat that only liked her, and hated everybody else.

Well i kept fucking with that cat. It would hide, i would find it.

Grandma kept warning me NOT to do that.

Pretty soon that cat laid a 5 alarm ass whooping on me. I still have a scar on my arm.

You know what Grandma said as she was dressing my wounds?

"It serves you right. I bet you won't mess with that cat again!" i slowly shook my head no.

And i didnt.

When you fuck with someones livelihood, when you fuck with the lives of peoples children, when you fuck with the lives of loved ones, and the legal system doesn't do anything about it.....

It's only a matter of time before someone get so fucking mad that they take matters into their own hands, hence what we have here.

This guy has left a path of destruction and dead people in his wake. People that didn't deserve it. Serves him right.

[Crunchy Frog]

118. Wait, did someone on DU kill him?!

[ck4829]

136. I know, right? What's going on?!

[orangecrush]

161. Wasn't me

I've been shoveling snow for days.

[PatrickforB]

123. Not necessarily. But it is the face of Karma, the law of Cause and Effect. n/t

[UT_democrat]

124. thoughts 'n prayers

[jfz9580m]

125. I saw a few shitposts

And a few posts by angry and frustrated DUers (typically posters who I remember as having posted about poverty and worries of homelessness etc.)

But mostly people are not celebrating it. It is a disturbing and chilling story (especially if it is a sign of what extreme social inequality results in). This is the last response you want to see to extreme inequality. Otoh maybe it is just personal vendetta and that is less chilling. It is unfortunate for his family. But there is so much hurt going around and so much more dreaded and expected. Especially for people who have very little money.

But yes there is not much performative outrage over the shitposts from most DUers. After all it is an Internet ritual we are all familiar with. Shitposts followed by largely performative outrage.

And sometime frustrated and powerless people let off steam in ways that are not as decorous as might be ideal-but it is understandable and hardly a sign of some sort of dark DU underbelly is my two cents.

Most of us who don’t call out the shitposts on topics like these don’t take them seriously. Tbh I don’t take the outrage seriously either. Standard internet stuff. That is the kayfabe the shitposters and those outraged by it participate in.

It is not hard to tell when people are truly upset by a story. It is likely that compassion for the families of those denied coverage is more genuine than the outrage over the shitposts.

Similarly outrage over Musk or Ramaswamy shitposting is never performative. People are worried about Musk and Ramaswamy affecting their parents’ social security or their own healthcare etc.

I can say I genuinely don’t celebrate it..how could anyone seriously celebrate murder? it is a disturbing story especially since UHC seems really awful. Violence as a result of extreme inequality is a disturbing sign..if that is what it is. Violence is never the answer but nothing is particularly rational these days.

I suspect for most of us-it is dark stuff if political or yet another true crime story.
Moving on..

[Happy Hoosier]

129. I don;t advocate for murder...

... but I guarantee you that the CEO of a for profit health insurance company has plenty of blood on his hands.

[barbtries]

130. well...

i'm not full of grief over it to be totally honest.

[Scrivener7]

132. No one here eliminated anyone. We're just here on the sidelines to which we have

been relegated by this election, watching.

[themaguffin]

137. I didn't know that was happening

[snot]

153. Let's just say

karma.

[snot]

156. We need to distinguish

feelings, thoughts, and even words from principles and actions.

I do not believe anyone is entitled to actually murder someone else, except in response to a realistic threat of their own imminent death.

But I do not feel upset by this particular murder; and I'm entitled to my feelings and thoughts, and to express them, regardless of whether they're "right."

That said, I'd consider it rude to express my feelings and thoughts about the man at his funeral.

[Sneederbunk]

159. Sometimes we need to keep feelings, thoughts, and even words to ourselves.

[orangecrush]

160. I think

Most people here are just fed up with pigs.

[Beringia]

163. We are here to awaken from our illusion of separateness, Thich Nhat Hanh

[LizBeth]

164. I work for another insurance and we got an email about this and we are suppose to be sad....

A moment of thought and prayer, while we are making 20 an hour, 2k deductible for a damn office visit and screwing people on a regular basis. Read the room. People are dying all over the place and our CEO sends out an email to all of us to ..... fukcin mourn.

[The Third Doctor]

165. Im not celebrating this but neither im i

Mourning.

[LizBeth]

166. This....

[Scrivener7]

190. On the day when a bunch of insurance companies announce they won't cover anesthesia

if it goes over an arbitrary time.

I wouldn't kill him. As another poster said, though, I'm keeping my compassion powder dry.

[Iggo]

174. Happens whenever a piece of shit human being dies.

It’ll pass.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

177. I don't have to feel bad that an asshole died.

I could not care less that he is no longer with us. The world is a better place without him. If you don't agree, fine. I'm not telling you how to feel. Are you mad at the shareholders that still had their meeting while his corpse cooled down?

[Lulu KC]

186. I believe they cancelled the meeting n/t

[hamsterjill]

187. I don't applaud murder

But I do have a limited amount of compassion to expend because of all of the bad in the world, and I choose where to direct that compassion.

This is not an instance where I’ll be losing sleep.

Perhaps it will make other, greedy and obviously calloused people think about their actions.

[JustAnotherGen]

191. I'm just

Surprised there's so many posts about it at all.

[Scrivener7]

192. Black humor isn't for everyone. But it does help many get through times of great difficulty.

Like this one.

And for the record, no one here killed the guy, and no one here would ever remotely consider killing the guy, and no one here condones the killing of the guy. Obviously.

[LoveSucky]

194. What murder? Looked like suicide to me

[Klarkashton]

201. It's pretty goddamn depressing that it took snuffing

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Out some CEO to bring attention to a huge problem that most American face in their lives.

[RandySF]

203. No one is condoning murder.

But we’ve all shed so many tears for friends and family that we don’t have any left for those who play games with our lives.

[GenThePerservering]

205. For gawd's sake, enough of the concern trolling! nt

Thread after thread pretending this wide-eyed "is this what we have become???" horror because people aren't rending their clothing in anguish at this man's death, and have gallows humour because if we didn't laugh we would cry over the insurance situation.
And now there's this ironic turn of events. And no, some of us don't give a shit that he's dead, even if we know that murder will never solve anything and is wrong.

I'm waiting for "And so it begins", or maybe "buckle up" as our next cliche narrative.

[Demobrat]

206. Would you feel the same if a serial killer was murdered

by one of his victim’s family members?

Or would it be preferable to have him go on to kill your loved one?