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JanMichael

(25,283 posts)
3. The US is not the only country with arms.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:09 PM
Dec 4

It has given the most but not all:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62002218

It will hurt badly having the US drop off but it won't end Ukraines resistance.

WarGamer

(15,621 posts)
6. recent poll... 56% of Ukrainians want a negotiated end to the war...
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:12 PM
Dec 4

Only 30%-something in favor of fighting on.

The war will end.

Emrys

(8,001 posts)
10. And what percentage in the same poll said they'd be willing to give up territory in such negotiations?
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:48 PM
Dec 4

Hint: It's been discussed on DU before.

DUers don't propagandize other DUers, except when they do.

Silent Type

(7,149 posts)
5. UK, NATO seem to indicate they'll continue despite what trump does. But that's probably not enough
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:12 PM
Dec 4

I think trump will try to get Ukraine and Russia to agree to new boundaries. If they don’t particularly if Putin says “No,” trump will try to extort additional money from NATO claiming they haven’t been contributing enough. But who the heck knows with trump?

Deuxcents

(19,951 posts)
4. Mike Johnson has a very slim majority so we'll see if the Dems can convince enough support for Ukraine
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:11 PM
Dec 4

From the R’s when the time comes. I’m understanding that Biden has been sending as much as he can that already been allocated. We just cannot leave Ukraine for Putin to destroy 🇺🇦

kerouac2

(738 posts)
7. Putin is already ready to give Trump a win imo
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:27 PM
Dec 4

So he will 'reluctantly' end the war with a small gain of territory as brokered by trump and praise trump for being such a great leader.

And then get ready to inflict more damage in 4 years when trump gains his third term.

Idk. Just spitballin.

dalton99a

(84,670 posts)
8. The world's greatest dealmaker will stop the war and demand a Nobel Peace Prize
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:38 PM
Dec 4

There will be a cease-fire next summer

Just watch

Emrys

(8,001 posts)
11. We'll have to see how Trump's envoy Kellogg performs in office
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:53 PM
Dec 4

In repeated interviews this year he's floated the plan of threatening Russia with increasing arms supplies to Ukraine if Putin doesn't agree to participate in peace talks.

So far, since Trump's election, Russia has refused point blank to entertain any such negotiations.

Initech

(102,269 posts)
12. Mike Johnson is a worthless fucking coward.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:59 PM
Dec 4

He only cares about what his news network bosses want as opposed to the greater good of the country. He and Trump can go get royally fucked.

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