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Mosby

(17,565 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:57 AM Dec 5

The shell casings of the bullets that killed Brian Thompson had words on them

The words "deny," "defend" and "depose" were discovered by detectives on the shell casings found at the scene where Brian Thompson, the CEO of major insurance group UnitedHealthcare, was gunned down, police sources told ABC News late Wednesday evening.

Thompson was shot to death at point-blank range in Midtown Manhattan on Wednesday morning before he was set to attend an investor conference, according to police.

The masked gunman, who remains on the loose, carried out a "brazen, targeted attack" that was "premeditated," NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch said at a news conference. But the motive remains unknown, police said.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-shot-chest-midtown-manhattan-masked-gunman-large/story?id=116446382

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The shell casings of the bullets that killed Brian Thompson had words on them (Original Post) Mosby Dec 5 OP
I'm sorry. I can't find any tears. RandySF Dec 5 #1
Weird. Sounds like a bad TV plot. LeftInTX Dec 5 #2
Agreed. I still think it was a hit to make sure he didn't talk. C Moon Dec 5 #8
rich fascist elite have opened up a can of worms they can't control called Karma. nt yaesu Dec 5 #3
Wow. That sounds very "let's get this civil war started" LearnedHand Dec 5 #4
it is very disturbing indeed Skittles Dec 5 #7
Oh you mean like public school children shot and killed in their desks Stargazer99 Dec 5 #11
sorry I didn't realize we celebrated that Skittles Dec 5 #14
The motive remains unknown? Demobrat Dec 5 #5
Another possible motive is related to the investigation into his insider trading. Stockholders lost many millions. nt pnwmom Dec 5 #6
Victim was shot from behind. He never saw it coming and had no chance. No Vested Interest Dec 5 #9
This seems rather close to Allstate's slogan, Allstate's Motto: Delay, Deny and Defend SWBTATTReg Dec 5 #10
I doubt if this CEO worked directly with any claims! He probably set corporate policy etc LeftInTX Dec 5 #12
Maybe not directly w/ the specific case or whatever that drove the shooter. Shooting this CEO who represents SWBTATTReg Dec 5 #13
Good catch!! NT Mike 03 Dec 5 #17
Sounds more related to insider trading than denying medical coverage. SunSeeker Dec 5 #15
I just binge-researched CIA hijinks recently John Shaft Dec 5 #16
but how convenient WhiskeyGrinder Dec 5 #18
If CEOs start getting killed I expect more gun control to pass. David__77 Dec 5 #19
Absolutely horrifying someone would hate you that much. Passages Dec 5 #20

Skittles

(159,976 posts)
7. it is very disturbing indeed
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 03:02 AM
Dec 5

almost as disturbing as people celebrating someone getting ambushed and gunned down in the street

pnwmom

(109,614 posts)
6. Another possible motive is related to the investigation into his insider trading. Stockholders lost many millions. nt
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 02:51 AM
Dec 5

SWBTATTReg

(24,260 posts)
10. This seems rather close to Allstate's slogan, Allstate's Motto: Delay, Deny and Defend
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 03:30 AM
Dec 5

I wonder if the CEO who was shot, other than being in just an insurance group (United Healthcare) perhaps was involved in denial of svc/benefits for a patient? The word depose replaces the word delay, perhaps in ref. to deposing of claims (w/o any benefits paid out), just flat out denied. It sounds like it.

Here's part of the statement (in "THE LEGAL EXAMINER AFFILIATE NETWORK > TRANSPORTATION" article, dated FEB 8, 2007):

Allstate's Motto: Delay, Deny and Defend

Tonight on CNN’s 360 With Anderson Cooper, Mr. Cooper will report on his 18 month investigation into the duplicitous tactics employed by Allstate, which claims “You’re in Good Hands With Allstate,” State Farm, which claims to be “Like a Good Neighbor,” and other major automobile insurers to force unfair settlements on victims of motor vehicle accidents. Cooper interviewed victims, lawyers, and insurance company insiders. CNN previewed the story on Mr. Cooper’s blogsite, reporting:

And if you are in a minor impact crash and get hurt…insurance companies will most likely try doing the same thing to you: delay handling your claim, deny you were hurt and defend their decision in drawn-out court battles. It’s the three D’s: delay, deny and defend. That, in a nutshell, is the stategy adopted by several major auto insurance companies over the past ten years…. With nowhere to go, Allstate and others bet you’ll take what they offer and walk away. It’s right in the training manuals we obtained from Allstate: force “smaller walk-away settlements.”

LeftInTX

(30,337 posts)
12. I doubt if this CEO worked directly with any claims! He probably set corporate policy etc
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 03:42 AM
Dec 5

He was the CEO of the corporation

SWBTATTReg

(24,260 posts)
13. Maybe not directly w/ the specific case or whatever that drove the shooter. Shooting this CEO who represents
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 03:52 AM
Dec 5

the 'evil' corporation in a denial of claim/benefits spat, which, perhaps makes to some, making some sort of twisted sense/logic.

The insurance industry and other similar industries do make more money by deny, deny, deny. The more they deny, the more money they make (we all know this).

I suspect that the police will look into the history of those making complains or noise regarding their claims being denied via claims made to the company. As much interest that there seems to be on this shooting, we'll no doubt hear more about this case.

SunSeeker

(53,934 posts)
15. Sounds more related to insider trading than denying medical coverage.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 04:39 AM
Dec 5

DOJ was investigating his sale of shares of the company’s stock options worth $15.1 million in February, just two weeks before the DOJ announced its probe into the company. DOJ was also attemping to block UnitedHealth Group Incorporated from spending $3.3 billion to acquire its rival health and hospice provider, Amedisys Inc., as it would be monopolistic.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/unitedhealthcare-ceo-gunned-down-manhattan-010522957.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEblZJv6Xcyk7GZz8fS25UoRHLh2uBUKeVrIDkaMm1j9QkWWB6BXb5hbyLVwRdlFHWK2TDzgHtxVXRvbjKCv9l4e7I9IZ9E-kq3UfrJEP3F21C_5Hmzdq25A_JqSSU_QSXDbNV1sdsuEBNkL8Gc2-cm19Hj7JCynnLrQrxFYEuLS

A grieving family member would not have the money to hire a sophisticated hit man. If they did have that kind of money, they would have spent it on their loved one's care.

This looks like someone with money got pissed at Thompson.

 

John Shaft

(808 posts)
16. I just binge-researched CIA hijinks recently
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:53 AM
Dec 5

I'm just gonna stop there and not entertain notions. Sometimes having a vivid imagination . . .

But who ever writes messages on bullets?

I kid, I kid . . . LOL

David__77

(23,879 posts)
19. If CEOs start getting killed I expect more gun control to pass.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:39 AM
Dec 5

Regardless, I think the elites will increasingly remove thwmselves from regular society in the years ahead.

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