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bronxiteforever

(9,495 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:00 PM Dec 5

A quick reflection on the United Health care murder.

This election taught me that the Country I kinda hoped it was, clearly isn’t. Remember the deceased was doing what was approved by the American people. A lot of voters went for the guy who wants to dismantle the ACA. Preexisting conditions who cares?

The American people can vote for a single payer insurance (imho it is the only one that makes sense).
There is no great cry for it.

We fail to hold voters responsible for their actions. They are not automatons. This health system and the overwhelming abundance of firearms IS America. It is WHY we are the Democratic Underground . I know and agree that the present system is barbaric and our lifespan is actually falling despite the huge amount of capital spent on the system. We could have single payer coverage but our voters choose not to act just like gun control. Like Scrooge, Americans built this system link by link and it is a ponderous chain. They crucified our party and President Obama about the ACA with the “concept of a plan”.

The fault dear Brutus is not in our stars but with us.

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Silent Type

(7,200 posts)
1. "Underground" doesn't mean endorsing 2nd Amendment Solutions, unless I've been mistaken.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:03 PM
Dec 5

That's a very trumpian view in my opinion.

BannonsLiver

(18,138 posts)
10. If you're not incapacitated by grief then you support extrajudicial killings and vigilante Justice.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:25 PM
Dec 5

That’s been the message from one side in the commentary of this guys death.

yardwork

(64,638 posts)
11. You didn't. There's a lot of drama and finger shaking here today.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:25 PM
Dec 5

I'm enjoying reading thoughtful posts like yours while dodging the cluckers.

LearnedHand

(4,217 posts)
3. If you're wealthy congress is likely to pass your legislation
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:12 PM
Dec 5

But the rest of us can eat shit and die. Literally.

"Study: Congress literally doesn’t care what you think"
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba/

NJCher

(38,098 posts)
4. you give them too much credit
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:12 PM
Dec 5
The fault dear Brutus is not in our stars but with us.

The fault dear bronxite is that they don't even what they're voting for because they vote with emotion, not logic.

If you don't believe me, just watch Jordan Klepper.

bronxiteforever

(9,495 posts)
7. I agree with you NJCher stupidity is rampant
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:18 PM
Dec 5

but the ignorance of many TFG’s supporters is a conscious choice.

Think. Again.

(18,615 posts)
5. Not all of us agree with the insurance industries policies, or voted for people who enabled them.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:14 PM
Dec 5

Personally I also blame the bribery lobbying set-up we suffer under, too.

bronxiteforever

(9,495 posts)
8. I agree Think. Again but we are presently
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:21 PM
Dec 5

on the outside looking in as far as power. But we are stuck with their decision based on ignorance or greed.

Meowmee

(5,930 posts)
6. The fault is with those who won't vote for it
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:18 PM
Dec 5

But actually, it’s never come to that because our legislators and the pharmaceutical companies and associations lobbying against it that control all of that will never let it happen. Even ACA is not a universal healthcare and it’s not that “affordable” for instance when it became available, my brother who was on an independent private insurance, which was less expensive was forced on to something with ACA. It was almost expensive as expensive as mine is, and it had crappy coverage. He was not allowed to go to the doctors he wanted to and had to get referrals and everything so it really wasn’t as good compared to Medicare.

bronxiteforever

(9,495 posts)
9. Meow me. I am sorry about your brother.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:25 PM
Dec 5

The ACA was crafted to just get enough votes to pass. And I agree that it is a poor substitute for a just single payer system.

intheflow

(29,000 posts)
13. The idjits don't want ACA repealed,
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:52 PM
Dec 5

they want Obamacare repealed. And are too stupid to know they're the same thing.

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