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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo One Should Take Any Pleasure From The Death Of An Insurance Executive...
It's not our job to judge whether a person deserves to live or die.
That's what algorithms designed to maximize profits for shareholders are for.
Irish_Dem
(58,803 posts)It means more money in their paychecks.
Exactly, they even use AI algorithms to justifying their murder.
Polly Hennessey
(7,492 posts)dchill
(40,647 posts)dalton99a
(84,663 posts)Attilatheblond
(4,411 posts)on their own employees? Does anybody else see a pattern here, or am I just another Cassandra with a satchel full of conspiracy theories that just might be real? I mean, we DO know a lot of these titans of capitalism all sit on each other's boards and hold similar stock portfolios.
They make a lot of money on 'dead peasants' one way or another.
rampartd
(639 posts)he is now dead. i should have had one on him.
his son may now be the beneficiary. hope i outlive him as well.
FirstLight
(14,270 posts)I think if there was a concerted effort to call out the oligarchs and maybe sit ourside their houses, or jus follow then while they get coffee...not to do anything, just to shadow them enough... they could be running scared, ya think?
Or, like I said yesterday...this could be a whole new Anon. movement...just target the richest MFers and the ones who live their lives off the suffering of us all...
EYESORE 9001
(27,562 posts)instead of uniting people against oligarchy? That IMO is their nightmare scenario.
LizBeth
(10,864 posts)the fuckin right to cheer. Who the fuck are you to be arbitrator of others perspective? And if I missed the joke in this, my bad.
MayReasonRule
(1,884 posts)They actually used an AI model that was known to have a 90% error rate to deny claims.
Abjectly morally depraved is about the kindest thing I can say about these folks...
LizBeth
(10,864 posts)MayReasonRule
(1,884 posts)Just noticed you're in Eugene.
We got the pleasure of spending three months within the Willamette Valley.
We were Summer Market participants and traveled back and forth between Oakridge, Westfir, Cottage Grove and Eugene.
Our friends reside in Oakridge.
We adored the area and found a ton of kindred hearts and minds.
We'd dearly love to return and bring our daughter for the return trip.
I now identify as an Oregon Coonass...
Lulu KC
(4,691 posts)even if they agree with you! We're all a little touchy these days.
KPN
(16,151 posts)believe that was the case. I just wont take it or use it as fact myself without a source.
DinahMoeHum
(22,507 posts)The medical profession is not at home with business values.
Mr.Bill
(24,828 posts)should not be a business.
Evolve Dammit
(18,955 posts)KPN
(16,151 posts)up capitalism which is what we enjoy.
Voltaire2
(14,795 posts)The capitalist systems demand for continuous growth is destroying our environment. And quite obviously the system, in its current phase, is driving mass insanity and delusional behavior across the globe.
The system is broken.
jfz9580m
(15,542 posts)This has resulted in some darkly amusing takes .
Cthulu on call
(32 posts)Fascism is when the state and corporate interests align. Just my opinion. Probably a lone wolf, but who knows.
wryter2000
(47,551 posts)But one can be glad that a message is going out that no one should play life and death for profit.
MayReasonRule
(1,884 posts)I can use other terms...
Abjectly morally depraved is about the most polite way I can express it.
We agree y'all!
Happy Friday...
Nigrum Cattus
(190 posts)Starting Jan 20 you will soon see how far the corps will go
to lie, cheat, & steal everything they can. If they do wipe-out
Obama care tens of thousands of low earners will be without
any coverage and many will die from treatable diseases.
MayReasonRule
(1,884 posts)They actually used an AI model that was known to have a 90% error rate to deny claims.
Abjectly morally depraved is about the kindest thing I can say about these folks...
Happy Friday from Caddo Parish y'all...
Laissez les bon temps rouler... don't let the bastards get ya' down!
azureblue
(2,307 posts)Democrats tried over and over to introduce health care for all, but the GOP shot it down at every turn. They also managed to hobble the ACA.
If Kamala won, the ACA would be greatly expanded, driving down red tape and end user cost. But no. People voted in Trump.
But now, this death of an exploiting CEO awakened America to how bad our health care system is, and they don't mind one CEO died.
Of course, with the GOP's backing, nothing will change. Vote the GOP out, and things will...
mike_c
(36,356 posts)There are some obituaries I read with greater pleasure than others.
I suppose I'm channeling my inner bolshevik.
MayReasonRule
(1,884 posts)As I and my honey watched a comedy series called 'Schitts Creek'... time and time again I could hear echoes of Twain throughout.
Happy Friday y'all...
yaesu
(8,307 posts)ShazzieB
(18,850 posts)Botany
(72,592 posts)($2,500), denied coverage, had 4 months in a hospital and a nursing ing home and had
bills of a 1/4 million $s, and had nasty assistant nurses overnight who enjoyed being
shitty to him. And when he got home he had stacks of bills and collection agencies calling
him and since he wasnt able to pay his target card monthly payment the card was canceled
and credit was trashed. Btw part of that shit really happened to me.
ShazzieB
(18,850 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2024, 03:01 PM - Edit history (1)
I missed the sarcasm in the op at first, but I've been set straight, and I'm deleting most of this post as a result.
I still stand by my conviction that people have the right to feel the way they feel (not just about this, but in general), and no one has the right to tell someone else how they "should" or "should not" feel. But that is not what this op was saying.
Carry on!
MayReasonRule
(1,884 posts)The other half is the abject depravity...
Employing an AI algorithm known to have a 90% error rate...
ShazzieB
(18,850 posts)I can't believe I missed that!
Thanks for pointing it out. I've corrected the post accordingly.
In my own defense, I have seen a lot of finger shaking posts criticizing people's reactions to the murder, so I guess I was primed to overreact to something like this. Yeesh.
MayReasonRule
(1,884 posts)Heading out to our backyard hothouse to check on our babies...
There's Eggplants in 'them there' hoops...
lynintenn
(751 posts)He hah an aneurism that left him with no short term memory . he had
COPD and could not walk to the car without shortness of breath . Every year he had to reappply and be granted approval. I was his representative and conservator . Every year I would hold my breath for him to be reapproved. he died last year from throat cancer.. There would have been no way he could have paid for any of his medical treatments. When he first started his radiation treatments II had to sign an agreement if his insurance stopped paying, I would be responsible for his charges. I can see how people become so angry . the system is screwed up. .....No one should be left without healthcare.
SpankMe
(3,282 posts)JCMach1
(28,106 posts)... If that is shaudenfreude, or even pleasure at the downfall of an evil (morally compromised) man, so be it.
NGeorgian
(90 posts)Puts dollars in insurance executives pockets.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(115,966 posts)I received several solicitations from United Healthcare this last go around asking me to enroll in their Medicare Advantage.
No thanks.
beemerphill
(519 posts)BUT, when a person who makes his living exploiting others who are sick and hurting succumbs, it IS hard to feel great sympathy.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(115,966 posts)I'm just out of fucks to give.
akbacchus_BC
(5,784 posts)vulnerable people he and his company exploited.
thebigidea
(13,286 posts)MayReasonRule
(1,884 posts)Happy Friday y'all!
Karasu
(286 posts)AI has no business deciding anything for anyone, least of all in a country that still doesn't have any laws on the book to regulate it. The existence of health "insurance" is already as joke as is, but AI takes it to another level.
The US is a joke.
bluedigger
(17,153 posts)It's more like hearing about a drug deal gone bad. They chose a business that traffics in misery and suffering for profit, and it ended poorly for them.
kairos12
(13,269 posts)pre-existing condition. Too many guns.
Procedure not covered BTW.
Aussie105
(6,370 posts)Security detail for any exec type who treats the common people with disdain!
If you offer a service but then do a few twists to not provide that when the time comes, expect some backlash.
This is an extreme case of 'backlash', but it was going to happen sooner or later in a gun crazy country.
dlk
(12,454 posts)Someone instrumental with initiating protocols directly attributable to greatly increasing the pain and death of so many Americans who were already suffering, put himself in the crosshairs.
This was bound to happen sooner or later.
No one is advocating murder, however, actions have consequences. .
Dem4life1234
(1,941 posts)I reserve my sympathy for those patients rejected.
I don't think most people are celebrating, I think many don't give a damn and have more sympathy for folks who get rejected by insurance and die.
That's who I give a damn about. Worry about them.
Think. Again.
(18,576 posts)....the normal reaction to the death of a very bad person into some kind of socially unnacceptable sadism uprising.
This situation is no different from the public relief when any other mass murderer is brought down by a civilian.