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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYa know what? Some people ARE celebrating.
People directly injured by an insurance denial or who have a loved one who was injured or died rom a denial are celebrating to varying degrees.
Was the shooting justified? In the largest sense, of course not. But that will not stop those to whom I was referring, above.
Finger wagging, pearl clutching, chastising, etc., changes nothing. It seems to me, those to whom I was referring, above are likely not celebrating. I see whatever their reactions as cathartic. A result of being human.
We've personally had minor denials that resulted in pain or inconvenience. There's no celebrating here. But neither is there much in the way of giving a fuck.
BootinUp
(49,169 posts)Is probably quite misleading. Fwiw.
LizBeth
(10,864 posts)insurance how they should feel about this killing.
Yesterday, I was scolded for posting UHC made 74 billion last quarter. To the holier-than-thou, my answering another DUers question meant i supported his murder. When i actually truly don't gaf
drmeow
(5,314 posts)is strong here!
LizBeth
(10,864 posts)Scrivener7
(53,038 posts)others because those others had some feelings. That's perfectly ridiculous.
Morality applies to actions.
None of those people letting off steam, whether we agree with them or disagree, have acted on those feelings. Nor are they likely to.
I'll save my judgment for those who do.
usonian
(14,317 posts)That's why we fight injustice.
We are doing The "Karm's work" but in a positive way.
He will come back as the person he savaged the most.
But we don't know when or whom.
Demobrat
(9,921 posts)gets shot. I dont see any difference between that and this.
Yeah, yeah, the guy was human. Kind of. But that just makes him more guilty. The wolf is acting on instinct. This CEO chose to make his living from killing sheep.
No wonder the sheep are celebrating.
SCantiGOP
(14,296 posts)in killing a wolf and killing a person?
No comment.
yardwork
(64,622 posts)Also, frankly, I have more sympathy for wolves than I have for many people.
Go ahead and judge me for that.
Demobrat
(9,921 posts)The Wandering Harper
(741 posts)yardwork
(64,622 posts)We've had much too much of that, imo, over the past year or so.
One lesson we Democrats might take from this is to mind our own businesses a little more, and stop criticizing other people for how they feel about things. Is that really the hill we want to die on?
Stinky The Clown
(68,472 posts). . . . elsewhere. Much calmer for us to mind our own damn business.
I read a lot of scoldiness and moralizing around here, particularly since this shooting. Is it rhetorical or aimed at the rest of us DUDenizens?
yardwork
(64,622 posts)For a decade I have judged people harshly who are entertained by Trump. The more outrageous he is, the more his supporters double down. They do outrageous things to show their support for him. We look on aghast and we double down. "How could they..?"
Suddenly this thing happens and millions of Americans have a spontaneous reaction and.... there's the same scolding and moralizing we've turned on Trumpsters, now turned on us. And it's not new. A lot of us are sick of being told that we're horrible people because we agree with Biden - our Democratic president, whose VP fought desperately to be elected and save us all from Trump - about his approach to Israel. In fact, the scolds may have cost us the election.
So. Some food for thought there. Has the Democratic Party become the party of moralizing scolds? Well, that's a winning ticket. /sarcasm
Jack Valentino
(1,468 posts)In Florida, this would be a variation upon "stand your ground".
The same goes for every politician who votes to abolish Obamacare.
They are threatening people's lives, and if they are successful, people will certainly DIE who didn't have to...
No reason why they should be excluded from that group.
(I am not advocating violence against politicians--- but if it happened for the reasons given above,
I certainly would not shed a tear over it.)
Demobrat
(9,921 posts)living in fear of gun violence. You know, like the rest of us have to.
Jack Valentino
(1,468 posts)and maybe they will think a little bit more about their actions,
rather than believing that they are immune from all possible consequences
Like some of the gun nuts like to say,
"An armed society is a polite society"---
only the actions of many of their adherents are none-too-polite
(and I'm not even talking about guns here)