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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(115,966 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:07 PM Friday

What Is Raw Milk? And Why Is Everyone Talking About It

Raw milk—or milk that isn’t pasteurized or homogenized to kill dangerous micro organisms—has been a controversial figure in the dairy scene for several years. Now, it’s about to be on the national debate stage.

That’s because Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been nominated by president-elect Donald Trump to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, the country's top health agency, which oversees the Federal Drug Administration. Kennedy has said he wants to put a stop to the “aggressive suppression” of raw milk in the US. It’s all part of his larger campaign to end what he says is “the FDA’s war on public health.”




Kennedy’s position on raw milk comes at a time when interest in and consumption of raw milk is higher than ever—despite scientists’ warnings about the very real dangers of consuming it. Data released earlier this year by the market research firm NielsonIQ found that weekly sales of raw cow’s milk have increased between 21% to 65% as compared with the same periods last year. Google Trends data shows that search interest for “raw milk” on the platform is higher than it's ever been.

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What are the risks of consuming it?

The Centers for Disease Control says that unpasteurized milk can carry bacteria, parasites, and viruses. The milk can come out contaminated (say, the cow has bovine tuberculosis or an udder infection), or it can become contaminated from contact with dirty equipment. “There are no demonstrated benefits to consuming raw milk compared to pasteurized milk,” a representative from the National Dairy Council told Bon Appétit. “Some people have a strong emotional investment in believing so, but scientific research does not validate this.”

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/raw-milk-obsession
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What Is Raw Milk? And Why Is Everyone Talking About It (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Friday OP
"Cowpox! Cowpox for everyone" RFK Jr., probably sakabatou Friday #1
My mom told me I came down with cowpox when I was a toddler. iscooterliberally Friday #3
Yep, the smallpox vaccine was derived from cowpox sakabatou Friday #6
Very moooving... rubbersole Saturday #31
You milked that post for all it was worth! iscooterliberally Saturday #38
I'm thinking of an SNL sequel... petronius Friday #9
I had hyperbaric therapy Blue_Roses Friday #14
That's pretty innocuous. It was the original smallpox vaccine. Crunchy Frog Saturday #23
Yes, I know sakabatou Saturday #25
Great. A HerbaLife pusher will be running our PUBLIC HEALTH institution LearnedHand Friday #2
I don't give a f*ck anymore Dr. Shepper Friday #4
Shaking my head at the fools who voted for this fool. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Friday #5
He forgot the Musk brain implants (and worms). chowder66 Friday #7
The latest bullshit, and potentially harmful, food fad. Aristus Friday #8
Welp, At least I will be incredibly high and my skin will look amazing Amanita Pantherina Friday #10
as if Republicans are going to loosen regulations against psychedelics thebigidea Friday #11
Consuming raw milk is beyond stupid. roamer65 Friday #12
Omg...this guy is effing NUTS!!! Blue_Roses Friday #13
I might consider Dorian Gray Friday #15
Would you get your milk by sucking directly on a cow's tit ?? Jack Valentino Friday #16
I don't take health advice from a guy who cut off a dead whale's head Jack Valentino Friday #17
My understanding is that it tastes good. Cartoonist Friday #18
People can make their own choice Cirsium Saturday #28
it does taste better in my experience The Wandering Harper Saturday #29
I tried it once AZSkiffyGeek Saturday #35
Something else I've wondered about is 'uncured' meat. Talitha Friday #19
I think it means no nitrites. usonian Friday #21
Thanks so much for this, usonian! Talitha Friday #22
You got an objection to replacing fluorine in water with psychedelics? usonian Friday #20
😹 Meowmee Saturday #24
That's the brain worm talking. Sneederbunk Saturday #26
Drink whatever milk you want MOJohn Saturday #27
Back in the 1880s or so babies in our family died LisaM Saturday #30
Taking it to the next level maybe? duncang Saturday #32
Don't be stupid. Avoid raw milk, and get vaccinated. Paladin Saturday #33
Fuck it, die then. Got no patience with people who get sick from any disease that has been preventable for decades Walleye Saturday #34
Raw milk can contain bacteria like Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria. Plus it has a shorter refrigerator shelf life. Emile Saturday #36
Also H5N1 has been found in raw milk nt Bookreadingliberal53 Saturday #37

iscooterliberally

(3,026 posts)
3. My mom told me I came down with cowpox when I was a toddler.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:30 PM
Friday

This might be an over simplification on my part, but my understanding is that the smallpox vaccine was actually a mild form of cowpox. The pediatrician said that only 1 in a million or two million kids would come down with cowpox so I won the lottery. At least I have that going for me!

Blue_Roses

(13,452 posts)
14. I had hyperbaric therapy
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:14 PM
Friday

for an infection in my leg and I wouldn't have my leg today if not for it! It's amazing how it works!

Crunchy Frog

(27,072 posts)
23. That's pretty innocuous. It was the original smallpox vaccine.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:04 AM
Saturday

There's much worse stuff in there than that.

Dr. Shepper

(3,079 posts)
4. I don't give a f*ck anymore
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:33 PM
Friday

I just don’t want them to kill their kids. Kill themselves sure, but don’t give it to the kids.

Aristus

(68,522 posts)
8. The latest bullshit, and potentially harmful, food fad.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:56 PM
Friday

Every nutritionally illiterate chuzzlewit out there wants to believe that he has found the key to health and longevity that doesn’t involve vegetables and exercise.

roamer65

(37,222 posts)
12. Consuming raw milk is beyond stupid.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:51 PM
Friday

Ask the dairy farmers who were dipping from their own milk tanks during the PBB crisis in Michigan in 1973.

Those farmers got an extra helping of the fire retardant.

Blue_Roses

(13,452 posts)
13. Omg...this guy is effing NUTS!!!
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:54 PM
Friday

So many of those things he mentions are necessary and beneficial. What happened to him? His dad would be so disappointed in him.

Dorian Gray

(13,733 posts)
15. I might consider
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:19 PM
Friday

raw milk or raw milk cheese if I knew the producer, that the conditions were pristine, and that I was ingesting it within a certain timeframe of it being produced. I have more optimism that proper protocols are managed in some European dairies than many here. But if I went to a farm, and they were drinking the milk with me... I'd consider it.

But the way we produce milk here in the USA? No way. Sick cows wading in their own excrement. Give them antibiotics and pasteurize that shit.

Jack Valentino

(1,468 posts)
17. I don't take health advice from a guy who cut off a dead whale's head
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:26 PM
Friday

with a chainsaw, and tied it to the roof of his van
while the decomposing 'whale juices' covered the outside
and some of the inside of the vehicle...

Cartoonist

(7,552 posts)
18. My understanding is that it tastes good.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:37 PM
Friday

I read something by Ron Paul to that effect. No mention of any health benefits, just that citizens should be able to make their own choice.

Cirsium

(1,021 posts)
28. People can make their own choice
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:34 AM
Saturday

Drink all the raw milk you like. But when you sell it to the public, then public health over-rides your personal freedom.

Ron Paul and other quacks are such brazen liars. They want to make this an issue of personal freedom for the consumer. It is not. It is a matter of freedom from regulations for the seller, and consumers be damned.

29. it does taste better in my experience
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM
Saturday

Massachusetts seems to have good regulations on it. Never got sick from it

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,632 posts)
35. I tried it once
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 08:17 AM
Saturday

It was incredibly rich. Too rich for my tastes, and I love whole milk. But it was tasty.
I've had raw milk cheeses as well, they also had a stronger richer flavor.

All these unpasteurized dairy products did wreck havok on my digestive system though.

Talitha

(7,467 posts)
19. Something else I've wondered about is 'uncured' meat.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:03 PM
Friday

Next time you're at WalMart, look at the ready-made sub sandwiches. Read the ingredients... that's where I've been seeing 'uncured' meats listed. Personally I wouldn't touch 'em - a fresh banana is more to my liking.

usonian

(14,317 posts)
21. I think it means no nitrites.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:22 PM
Friday

Could be wrong. Nitrites seem to be ok when naturally occuring in foods but can be carcinogenic in processed foods. I refer you to the Cleveland Clinic. et. al.

https://theconversation.com/why-nitrates-and-nitrites-in-processed-meats-are-harmful-but-those-in-vegetables-arent-170974
Why nitrates and nitrites in processed meats are harmful – but those in vegetables aren’t



https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-are-nitrates



Talitha

(7,467 posts)
22. Thanks so much for this, usonian!
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:33 PM
Friday

The Cleveland Clinic is a source I can trust - I've bookmarked the links and will delve into them in the morning.
Thanks again!

usonian

(14,317 posts)
20. You got an objection to replacing fluorine in water with psychedelics?
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:14 PM
Friday


Next President. Timothy Leary. From the other side!

MOJohn

(17 posts)
27. Drink whatever milk you want
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:26 AM
Saturday

I couldn't care less. I'm not rushing out to the Amish store for raw milk, but I don't care if someone else does.

LisaM

(28,687 posts)
30. Back in the 1880s or so babies in our family died
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 01:00 AM
Saturday

from tubercular cow's milk. My great great grandmother couldn't nurse because she was sick and she ended up losing four young children, including two babies. RFK, Jr. can eff off.

duncang

(3,713 posts)
32. Taking it to the next level maybe?
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 04:56 AM
Saturday

What about cooking meat or for that matter anything. Part of the reasoning is it kills off beneficial bacteria. Couldn’t that be said about anything you cook. It’s likely that rfk jr got his brain worm from undercooked or raw food. Might be meat or raw vegetables that haven’t been properly washed or inspected. I could see him trying to allow raw milk in schools. Which could be a disaster.

Paladin

(28,897 posts)
33. Don't be stupid. Avoid raw milk, and get vaccinated.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 05:55 AM
Saturday

And pray that rfk jr. doesn't gain any more influence and power.

Walleye

(35,992 posts)
34. Fuck it, die then. Got no patience with people who get sick from any disease that has been preventable for decades
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 06:44 AM
Saturday

Our health system has been so muddled up with advertising and PR talk, people don’t realize that there’s a difference between communicable diseases and chronic health conditions

Emile

(30,323 posts)
36. Raw milk can contain bacteria like Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria. Plus it has a shorter refrigerator shelf life.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 08:22 AM
Saturday

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