I seriously hope Biden isn't considering issuing a Pardon to Trump.

[milestogo]

I realize there are a lot of angles to this.

It was a mistake when Gerald Ford did it. But Nixon had already been stripped of his power and sent back to his hidey hole. Still, most historians agree it was a mistake because it sent the message that presidents are above the law.

In this case where there are so many charges and no remorse, it would be like anointing Trump as King of America. We would never recover from it.

[claudette]

1. For me

that would be the end of my following politics.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

2. Joe, let this be a STAIN on tRump.

To forever remind him of the scourge that he is and always will remain.

[choie]

8. Not that trump gives a shit.

But it's vital for his bastard followers to be reminded. And to let those of us who care about our democracy know that our leaders to do.

[malaise]

3. He'd better not

That is all

[CrispyQ]

4. I don't think he will. I sure hope not. It would be a HUGE mistake.

It will demoralize the dem base even more than we already are. I will change from democrat to unaffiliated if he does this & never give another dime or minute to GOTV. Why are we always the ones being called on to extend the olive branch? It wasn't our side that stormed the Capitol to silence the voices of our fellow citizens. It's not our side asking "When can we use the guns?"

[choie]

6. Big Amen!

I will change to unaffiliated as well.

[choie]

5. It would it be outrageous

I went off on this a few days ago too. You're absolutely right - we've made numerous grave mistakes in the past. Going back to the end of the Civil War when we pardoned the secessionists, perpetuating the myth of the lost cause which continues to poison this country; through Ford's pardon and then Obama's "look forward, not back" bullshit. How did that turnout, Obama? None of these criminals were held accountable, and here we are. The biggest criminal and corrupt leader we've ever had has already escaped facing the law. AND trump has claimed that he has the right and power to pardon himself. The only reason Biden would do this is if he's under the erroneous belief it would "heal the nation". It would be a travesty and and offensive. Not to mention a great insult to the millions and millions of Americans who demanded justice.

[milestogo]

10. All of us who are old enough to remember the Nixon pardon

seem to think it was a mistake and did not heal the nation. Ford was not a bad guy, maybe he meant well. But in the long view of history it was a big mistake. That has not changed.

[bluestarone]

7. I'm in the HE BETTER NOT club!

[Ocelot II]

9. He doesn't have to; the federal cases have been dismissed (thanks, SCOTUS)

and probably won't be revived after 2028. And he can't pardon the NY and GA state cases. Although Biden won't be subjected to the political jeopardy Ford placed himself in by pardoning Nixon, I think he understands that it created a shitty precedent. While accepting a pardon isn't an automatic acknowledgment of guilt (the Burdick case is often misinterpreted to that effect), it carries that implication (which is why Burdick held that a person could reject a pardon), and Trump might not want that since he's got all that immunity anyhow. And with any luck the miserable old bastard will be dead by 2028 anyhow.

[choie]

11. I think people (including me)

have heard the comments of Fetterman, Clyburn and John Dean in support of the pardons, and are worried that those views will start gaining momentum.

[Irish_Dem]

12. The final end to rule of law, democracy, and our party.