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milestogo

(18,071 posts)
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:19 AM Saturday

What is your impression of Amy Coney Barrett?

Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barret asked a team of ACLU lawyers advocating for trans rights if trans people had ever really been discriminated against. The court on Wednesday held oral arguments in United States v. Skrmetti, a landmark case originating from Tennessee that could decide just how far the federal government has to go, if at all, to protect the rights of trans people. In 2023, Senate Bill 1 became law in Tennessee, banning hormone therapy and puberty blockers for minors and imposing civil penalties on doctors who don’t fall in line. Skrmetti is challenging S.B. 1, but the conservative justices don’t seem to be having any of it.

“One question I have is, at least as far as I can think of, we don’t have a history—that I know of—we don’t have a history of de jure discrimination against transgender people,” Coney Barrett said during oral arguments on Wednesday morning. “You point out in your brief that in the last three years there might have been these laws, but before that we might have had private societal discrimination.… Is there a history that I don’t know about where we have de jure discrimination?”

By de jure Coney Barrett means “federally mandated,” and she goes on to note that other minority groups have experienced that kind of discrimination, while to her knowledge trans people haven’t.

U.S. Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar responded immediately. “Historical discrimination against transgender people may not have been reflected in the laws. But I think there’s no dispute that there is a broad history here and it hasn’t just been confined to private actors,” she said. “I think that if you actually looked at the facts there’s a wealth of evidence to suggest that transgender people throughout history have been subjected to violence, discrimination, and maybe lost employment opportunities, housing opportunities.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/189029/amy-coney-barrett-question-supreme-court-transgender-case-hearing
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What is your impression of Amy Coney Barrett? (Original Post) milestogo Saturday OP
One: She isn't a bona fide legal scholar, and no_hypocrisy Saturday #1
Ms Justice, What are these stupid bathroom bills about. You need to concern yourself with state laws as well. Walleye Saturday #2
She seems to have led a very sheltered existence. milestogo Saturday #3
That is one main problem with Republicans. They don't accept other peoples experiences as legitimate. Walleye Saturday #6
Exactly! mountain grammy Saturday #15
There is no end to the crazy fantasies these guys believe. They think the cities are in ruins. Walleye Saturday #22
Speaker Johnson making bathroom rules in the Capitol Building doesn't cross her mind? Diamond_Dog Saturday #17
Oh, they will propose a federal law before too long to cover the whole country about it. And now they think they're Walleye Saturday #19
Traffic court level expertise. Stong point? She didn't do this ... marble falls Saturday #4
She seems like a pleasant, well-meaning, church-going christian lady. sop Saturday #5
Naive. cachukis Saturday #7
Shes not qualified Dem4life1234 Saturday #8
And because she is rabidly anti-choice milestogo Saturday #9
For political reasons... voris820 Saturday #32
Well, CONEHEAD, 'to your knowledge' shows you to be an ignorant fucking POS CurtEastPoint Saturday #10
That is one thick bubble she lives in. Privilege. Solly Mack Saturday #11
Doing the Lord's work. usonian Saturday #12
Freepers hate her Kaleva Saturday #13
They hate everybody except Donald Trump Walleye Saturday #21
Post removed Post removed Saturday #23
She doesn't hide her light, she's just that dim Maeve Saturday #14
She is a member of an insane cult. Nt. Voltaire2 Saturday #16
I think she's got some nutty in her. jalan48 Saturday #18
Sorry. I don't do impressions. usonian Saturday #20
That she's ignorant of religious history, particularly her own. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Saturday #24
I Reckon Nowt To Her! MineralMan Saturday #25
She LIED during her confirmation. Callie1979 Saturday #26
A remotely-operated Christofascist Handmaid... dchill Saturday #27
This message was self-deleted by its author dchill Saturday #28
She's been on the wrong side of every bad decision the SC comradebillyboy Saturday #29
Barrett should have never been put onto the SCOTUS LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #30
I don't agree with her on various issues, of course, snot Saturday #31
She couldn't name the five freedoms NameAlreadyTaken Saturday #33
Your average ignorant, typical , disgusting republican. Autumn Saturday #34
Opus Dei stooge. Leonard Leo pick. Scrivener7 Saturday #35
If she actually asked that question, I'd say she isn't the sharpest tack and lives in lala land. Vinca Saturday #36
Nothing but complete contempt. ananda Saturday #37
Totally unqualified. InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #38

no_hypocrisy

(49,041 posts)
1. One: She isn't a bona fide legal scholar, and
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:22 AM
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Two: She isn't one for fine distinctions in her analysis. She paints with a wide brush.

Walleye

(35,992 posts)
2. Ms Justice, What are these stupid bathroom bills about. You need to concern yourself with state laws as well.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:23 AM
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Slavery was never a federally mandated law. I remember in Amy Coney Bryant’s hearing, Senator Booker asked her if she’d ever stood in line more than a half an hour to vote. She was totally baffled by the question. She looked at him like he was speaking a different language. That’s who she is.

milestogo

(18,071 posts)
3. She seems to have led a very sheltered existence.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:25 AM
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So sheltered that she claims to never have even seen discrimination, much less experienced it.

Walleye

(35,992 posts)
6. That is one main problem with Republicans. They don't accept other peoples experiences as legitimate.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:27 AM
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mountain grammy

(27,338 posts)
15. Exactly!
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:44 AM
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They dishonestly believe everyone in America has the same rights and freedoms and opportunities.

Walleye

(35,992 posts)
19. Oh, they will propose a federal law before too long to cover the whole country about it. And now they think they're
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:57 AM
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Interested in women’s sports. They were against title IX all along.

sop

(11,394 posts)
5. She seems like a pleasant, well-meaning, church-going christian lady.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:26 AM
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“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” - Steven Weinberg

voris820

(27 posts)
32. For political reasons...
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 02:15 PM
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to help Trump try to win in 2020. She became known in a hearing for being a lower court judge because of an exchange with Diane Feinstein who said "the dogma lives loud in you" or something like that. That immediately made her a hero for the religious right. Trump needs the religious right to win elections so that is why she was then nominated to the supreme court. She is otherwise minimally qualified.

Response to Kaleva (Reply #13)

Maeve

(43,006 posts)
14. She doesn't hide her light, she's just that dim
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:39 AM
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Sheltered, pampered, out of touch with reality as others know it and so assumes it isn't there

Response to milestogo (Original post)

comradebillyboy

(10,515 posts)
29. She's been on the wrong side of every bad decision the SC
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 01:54 PM
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has made since she was appointed. She's just not as personally abrasive as Thomas or Alito.

snot

(10,740 posts)
31. I don't agree with her on various issues, of course,
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 02:13 PM
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but since she's been a Supreme, I've actually found her to be perhaps the most conscientious of the conservative justices. Her opinions (unlike, say, Thomas's or Kavanaugh's) are generally well-reasoned, and she's occasionally bucked a consensus among her fellow conservatives as a result.

Bear in mind that her question about the history of discrimination against trans people might at least partly have been in the nature of a "gimme" – i.e., creating an opportunity for those seeking protection of trans rights to present and discuss that history.

NameAlreadyTaken

(1,600 posts)
33. She couldn't name the five freedoms
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 02:20 PM
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guaranteed by the First Amendment during her confirmation hearings. Her inability to answer such a basic question proves she doesn't belong in ANY court, let alone the United States Supreme Court.

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