Why top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedHealthcare CEO killer

[SunSeeker]

A high-profile violent crime typically sets social media abuzz with tips and theories from amateur internet sleuths, hunting for the alleged perpetrator. 

But after UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was gunned down in New York City this week without a primary suspect being identified, a rare occurrence happened in the thriving true-crime world: silence online from highly followed armchair detectives.

“I have yet to see a single video that’s pounding the drum of ‘we have to find him,’ and that is unique,” said Michael McWhorter, better known as TizzyEnt on TikTok, where he posts true crime and viral news content for his 6.7 million followers. “And in other situations of some kind of blatant violence, I would absolutely be seeing that.”

“We’re pretty apathetic towards that,” Savannah Sparks, who has 1.3 million followers on her TikTok account — where she tracks down and reveals the identities of people who do racist or seemingly criminal acts in viral videos — said about helping to identify the shooter. She added that, rather than sleuthing, her community has “concepts of thoughts and prayers. It’s, you know, claim denied on my prayers there,” referring to rote and unserious condolences. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/internet-sleuths-say-wont-help-find-unitedhealthcare-ceo-suspect-rcna183228

[comradebillyboy]

1. Don't they have the actual police to do that sort of thing?

I don't really want on-line vigilantes involved in law enforcement. Besides very few non rich folks care about the fate of insurance company execs.

While I disapprove of murdering folks in public, I feel no personal urge to track down the killer. That's what NYPD and the FBI are for.

[mopinko]

4. online sleuths caught tons of j6'ers.

[comradebillyboy]

5. That's true but they have also labeled plenty of

innocent bystanders as terrorists and unleased vigilante mobs on the wrong people.

[TommyT139]

6. It was online crowd-sourcing that got the J6-ers

...starting with massive effort led by a non-binary non-US person to gather and store terabytes of social media postings that were gone a day later.

Not all open-source info users are vigilantes. And pretty soon, we'll need them more than ever.

[John1956PA]

7. Capturing incriminating social media posts before they are scrubbed is indeed important. n/t

[Prairie Gates]

2. The growing rage of the corporate media about people's refusal to condemn this event

Is really something else. I often think that they know how much they are hated, and simply muscle through it, but this seems like a real scale falling from the eyes kind of event, as if they're just learning how much they are despised.

[Demobrat]

9. They know how much they are hated.

They just don’t think there’s anything their victims can do about it.

But it turned out they were wrong, and they are furious that nobody gives a shit when one of THEM has to pay the ultimate price for their policies.

I care just as much about this murder as he cared about the thousands of suffering people he tormented and killed. I think that’s fair.

[AKwannabe]

15. This this this

[groundloop]

19. Gee, maybe the ultra wealthy should push their bought and paid for politicians for gun control.

I've long felt that it would take the murder of a prominent repuke / repukes to make them see the light on allowing at least basic gun control. Could this be that moment? (I'm not holding my breath.)

[Demobrat]

24. When innocent children are murdered in their classrooms

the Repuke rallying cry is always “This is not the time to talk about gun control”.

Is this the time? I guess we’ll see, but I don’t think so. This time the collateral damage is a rich man instead of a poor child, but collateral damage he still is.

The gun lobby will not tolerate a hit to their profits for him, or anyone else.

[DENVERPOPS]

28. Demo.......

They are used to getting away with anything.......Just look at Senator Scott? down in Florida, who corruptly stole 1.3 Billion dollars of Tax payers money through false medicare billings? when he was CEO of some health care Corporation.....Not only was he not punished, the stupid Republican Voters down there rewarded him the office of U.S. Republican Senator.......a position he obviously demonstrated he was well qualified to fill.....

[DBoon]

31. They have created a political and judicial system to ensure victims suffer

Privately run insurance with generous subsidies. Don't even talk about single payer.

Regulatory bodies that ensure private insurance will always be profitable and provide little protection for patients

A gutted tort system that makes private legal action useless.

They built this to ensure we can't do anything about it.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Narcissists and psychopaths think everyone loves and admires them.

They see themselves as so brilliant and special.

If people don't like them it is only because everyone is jealous of them.

[allegorical oracle]

18. There are tons of AARP members who have UHC and contribute mightily to the

corp's bottom line. Have wondered if all the bad publicity will blow down to that organization, too.

[groundloop]

21. Doubtful. Mostly AARP handles Medicare Supplement plans, which are pretty tightly regulated.

[Lulu KC]

29. I had my plan d through uhc/aarp

I did switch to Cigna really because it’s cheaper, and I know none of them are pure.

The AARP did something a few years ago that was not friendly to seniors about Rx prices. It was ages ago, I forget the deets, but I don’t think they’re really our loyal champions, frankly.

[Demobrat]

34. I have one of those.

I chose it because my broker showed me that while premiums are comparable across companies at 65, UHC rates tend to be lower when you are much older. Of course things change. I will be watching carefully. You can switch between companies offering the same plan at open enrollment each year.

[yardwork]

37. The whole thing is fascinating.

[mopinko]

3. they call it a 'brass verdict'. when the system fails to provide justice,

usually someone will. these companies have been sued/fined a million times. punishable by a fine means legal for a price. that price never exceeds the profits. and execs almost never go to jail, no matter the body count.

ppl generally r fine w that.

[Irish_Dem]

13. Lawsuits and fines are just part of their budget and business model.

They know it is cheaper to pay fines, settle lawsuits, legal expenses.
They are cheaper than doing the right thing.

[johnnyfins]

22. Well, Corporations ARE people in the eyes of

U S Law. Shouldn't they be held criminally accountable as would any other "person".

[johnnyfins]

23. I have noticed that Corporations are only

"People" when they want/need to be. For example: Besides the one case, why hasn't a Corporation run for elected office?

[dalton99a]

8. Our system provides no consequences for insurance CEOs' murder and mayhem

In fact, their behavior is richly rewarded

[LymphocyteLover]

10. Oh darn!

[NotHardly]

11. Over 300 homicides unsolved in NYC & they go full out for the millionaire

[SunSeeker]

16. THIS

[DENVERPOPS]

32. I was so glad to learn

it was a white guy, and not a minority..............

Evidently, more news is surfacing about other corruption accusations about the CEO.......The DOJ was about to open an investigation into his corporation, he learned about it, and trading on insider information, he immediately dumped 15 million of his own stock before the news was made public and the stock dropped........

[KPN]

30. One, it's a threat to the system. And two, high achieving

millionaires are emblematic of the American dream and without question America’s finest.

[Hekate]

14. KnR

[orleans]

17. i'd post a picture of something here but postimages is phishing and i can't upload a pic to get the link

to post here.

...have no idea what i'd post a picture of, i just wanted to kick the thread

[Celerity]

25. try Imgur (I am having the same issues with Postimages)

https://imgur.com/

or take a snapshot with Gyazo

https://gyazo.com/

It really is disappointing that DU software still doesn't allow most all image urls to display without often having to use other image posting sites for many images.

Also disappointing is that it doesn't automatically embed hyper-links and other formating.

It makes meticulous posting (something I strive to always do) a real pain in the arse.

[LeftInTX]

35. This!

[orleans]

40. i'm trying imgur so i wanted to see if this copy link works

ok it doesn't

what am i doing wrong? i uploaded the pic, it showed up on imgur and then what do i do to get the link or whatever i'm supposed to paste here? help please.

on edit /trying again

https://imgur.com/a/byxxZLF

share link
[img][/img]

ok, i got it. click on the ... and get the share link then bbcode (forums)

thanks

[Celerity]

41. you need to right click, & 'copy image address' on the Imgur generated pic and then paste it into the DU body of content

like this (snapshot of the actual link)



which yields this:




also, do NOT use the 'link' button on DU to post pics

The DU link button is only to embed hyperlinks into text

like this:

Manchester City should forget Premier League title in 'season to suffer'


cheers!

Cel

[yaesu]

20. The 1% are finding a new meaning to its lonely at the top. nt

[bucolic_frolic]

26. FBI scheduled for dissolution under Trump

They won't be looking for this guy very much longer.

[Farmer-Rick]

27. Police clear about half the murder cases in the US

In 2022, police cleared about half of the murders and nonnegligent manslaughters at a 52.3% clearance rate. This is part of a downward trend that began in the 1960s. In 1964 the homicide clearance rate was 83.7%.

As police got more violent, their efficiency declines. The clearance rate of other crimes is even worse. Aggravated assault is 41.4%, Rape is 26.1%, Robbery is 23.2% .

They are too busy bullying the average person, controlling traffic and protecting property for the filthy-rich. It's all part of turning government and police into Fascist tools. They are more into controlling the masses and keeping minorities in their place then solving crimes.

Do it yourself crime solving maybe our only recourse.

But I'm surprised the police haven't brought in their suspect yet. That's unusual for a filthy-rich person's death not to have been avenged yet by the police.

[Think. Again.]

33. "It's too soon to talk about finding the killer"...

...or "thoughts and prayers on finding the killer", or some shit like that whatever.

[HeartachesNhangovers]

36. Top internet sleuths!!! AHAHHAHHHHAHHHHHAHHAAA!

cough / hack / cough. Excuse me.

[SunSeeker]

38. The Sedition Hunters are no laughing matter.

They helped to identify hundreds of suspected Jan. 6 rioters. https://www.npr.org/2022/01/05/1070471256/amateur-sleuths-help-to-identify-hundreds-of-suspected-jan-6-rioters

I don't know about the specific folks mentioned in the article, but internet sleuths in general have helped solve a lot of crimes.

[drmeow]

39. "That attitude among some content creators comes amid ...

"amplified attention on frustrations with medical care in the U.S. in the wake of the killing. "


"amplified attention on the inadequacies and the vicious and cruel health insurance policies that inflict immeasurable harm and even death on people who actually PAY for insurance coverage in the US in the wake of the killing." There, fixed it for you!

[Kaleva]

42. In some cases apparently, a gun is a statement maker

And people support that

[SunSeeker]

43. No, this isn't about the gun. nt

[Kaleva]

44. Every crime committed with a gun is about the guns

Unless one approves of the use of guns in situations like this one

[SunSeeker]

45. This is about who he killed. Not how he killed him.

But if you want to hijack this thread and make it about how great guns are, go for it Kaleva.