A "Go fund me" account for the UHC suspect

[Cattledog]

needs to be created to fund his defense. I bet it would raise millions.

[CrispyQ]

1. Not a dime from me. I don't feel sorry for the CEO, but the shooter broke the law. -nt

[Kaleva]

8. Agree

[yagotme]

13. Agree. nt

[JI7]

17. Yup, that's where I am.

[MineralMan]

2. Are you planning to be a donor to that?

I'm sure not going to. I don't fund people who kill other people by shooting them in the back. That's murder.

[Autumn]

3. I think I would donate to it. He did us a service in bringing out the frustration and anger we all

have with this travesty of a healthcare scam politicians have foisted on us. We deserve better.

[sarisataka]

7. He did us a service in bringing out the frustration and anger we all have...

... at the low cost of one human life

[Autumn]

12. I bet that CEO is responsible for more than ONE human life. nt

And that's not fucking sarcasm.

[sarisataka]

15. So anytime we have a complaint and want to draw attention to it

just kill someone... We will run out of people before we run out of complaints.

[Autumn]

23. Said no one ever.

[Scrivener7]

40. Why can people not discuss this without dragging out their strawmen?

You know as well as I do that that isn't what Autumn is saying.

[sarisataka]

46. I don't see it as a strawman

He did us a service in bringing out the frustration and anger we all have with this travesty of a healthcare scam politicians have foisted on us

That statement implies a certain acceptance of the murder, based on a potential good. The killing was a service because it brought attention to the issue of healthcare.

[Scrivener7]

51. Can you hold 2 true things in your mind at once?

He HAS revealed a righteous anger. That is a true thing. And that is a good thing. And the truth of it has nothing to do with condoning anything.

And no one, anywhere, has said anyone should go out and kill anyone.

It's the definition of a strawman.

[sarisataka]

53. Very easily- Truth 1, the murder brought attention to the state of the healthcare industry

Truth 2- That attention in no way justifies, vindicates, or defends the murder which brought the attention.

[Scrivener7]

55. And Autumn's statement in no way said it justifies anything.

And then you piped up with "so anytime you disagree you should kill someone." It's ridiculous, and you know it.

[sarisataka]

56. Well I just hope no one

ever performs a "service" on me..

[Scrivener7]

59. You just can't let go of the strawman, and I know

you know you are attributing meaning to her post that was nowhere in it. That's not honest. And again, it's ridiculous.

[Kaleva]

21. Why not go after the shareholders?

The people that vote to put folks on the board that hired such CEOs

[Autumn]

22. Because he's the one in charge, that may be why the shooter went after him . Even used AI to deny claims.

[Kaleva]

24. But the shareholders want that

If he didn't do it, they'd fire him and replace him with another. In order to maximize profits on their investments

[Autumn]

25. Do you know the names of the shareholders and what they look like?

You can always start a go fund me to buy flowers for the CEO's funeral.

[TheProle]

41. Who's trotting out the strawman now?

[Kaleva]

44. Would you support doxing the shareholders

so they may get street justice?

[Autumn]

58. No. YOU brought up the shareholders. That's your idea, not mine but nice try.

[Kaleva]

66. I'm just wondering if you feel the shareholders are blamless

or if they are equally culpable? If they share the guilt, then do you think they deserve the same street justice?

[Autumn]

68. I don't think about them at all.

[Kaleva]

71. I would consider them to be a big part of the problem

They invest not to promote the greater good but to get the maximum profit they can. So they vote for people that can deliver to serve on a board. The board then hires people like the CEO.

Deliver street justice on the shareholders who put their own profits above the greater good and you'll then see change .

[misanthrope]

34. Then let them fire him

No one forced Thompson to work for United Health Care and with his connections and background, he could get any number of comfortable jobs in another field. He willingly remained at a job that called for him to be responsible for the suffering and death of thousands of people who did nothing other than be born with infirmity, or age, or fall ill.

Don't make it sound as if he were a complete innocent.

I am not saying Thompson deserved to be shot and killed. I am merely clarifying his role in the power dynamic at play.

[Kaleva]

48. If he was guilty of anything, why didn't the Biden Administration go after him?

Or is Biden and other Dems a part of the problem?

[Autumn]

65. I've been assured Garland was busy setting up his ducks to get Trump. What that CEO did was

set up by politicians from way back and they will not rock the boat

[misanthrope]

67. Where did I say he was guilty of breaking a law?

There are people who wouldn't want a job like that due to the attendant guilt over their perceived role in furthering misery and grief. Brian Thompson wasn't one of them. That doesn't make such a role illegal.

[yagotme]

14. One human life...

so far...

[sarisataka]

16. There are call for more...

Another local provider has closed their offices this week due to threats-
https://democraticunderground.com/100219803903

[yagotme]

18. Thus, the theme of my reply...

[ForgedCrank]

62. Hey, it

is a person they disagree with, so they are deemed worthy of sacrifice. Pretty simple. Murder is apparently Ok if it serves their needs.
How Democratic! Wonder what the world would look like if everyone thought that way?
Oh yea, nevermind. I remember Stalin and Pol Pot

[Bonx]

4. That would be morally offensive and anger inducing

[ck4829]

5. I don't donate to anything medical-related on GoFundMe

Medical bills are shams, you shouldn't pay them, nor pay for them on GoFundMe.

I guess I'll have more money freed up

[Kaleva]

6. Nope

[sarisataka]

9. I'm so glad I read online

that no one is condoning or cheering murder. Otherwise I might take this the wrong way.

[Kaleva]

19. I've seen a few posts stating no one is celebrating the murder

[jimfields33]

10. I'm not giving. He killed a person.

He’ll get a free lawyer if he doesn’t have any money. Really a Go Fund Me is unnecessary.

[milestogo]

11. If you want to give to a good cause there are lots of Gazans on Bluesky with gofundme pages.

https://gofund.me/711993bb


https://gofund.me/2ec96a32

[yagotme]

20. So, vigilantism is OK for this particular case. nt

[Kaleva]

26. No trial by jury. Just straight to execution.

[yagotme]

29. Judge, jury, and executioner.

Guilt predetermined. Sounds like a plan...

[sarisataka]

31. I am so old

I remember when that was a bad thing

Along with 'it is never ok to take the law in your own hands'

[Kaleva]

45. Not much difference between the extreme right and left.

[yagotme]

54. Like they say, extremism is, just well, too extreme...

[Kaleva]

70. Same tactics and methods

[NoRethugFriends]

27. Go Fund Me doesn't allow stuff like that

[onecaliberal]

28. Nah, we'll keep bringing those butter knife's.

[TBF]

30. That won't go over on this platform - too many shareholders on here.

It will happen other places though - there are significant amounts of people who have had it with the corporate bs in this country.

[BannonsLiver]

38. +1

Also many have “got theirs” as far as healthcare goes and have very little understanding of what the struggle is for a lot of people.

[WarGamer]

32. GFM doesn't support accounts for accused murderers.

[PCIntern]

33. Sorry, you don't get to be judge, jury, and executioner.

What if some “righteous” patient decided that I aggrieved him horribly and I was OK to be a victim of an assassination attempt? Nope.

[yaesu]

35. I would donate just to stick it to fascists, my goal from now on is to be anti establishment in any way possible. nt

[gopiscrap]

36. I'd donate to that in a heartbeat

[sarisataka]

50. Really?

His family owns Turf Valley and Hayfields Country Club, NBC News confirmed.

Mangione is the cousin of Baltimore County Delegate Nino Mangione, R-District 42A, the lawmaker's office confirmed.

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-man-questioned-maryland-ties/63137390

[Ping Tung]

37. I'm against gun ownership in general and even more against vigilantes who murder people.

[mathematic]

39. Literally a MAHA terrorist and you want to give him money.

Hey, it's your dime but I'm saving mine for people that don't like Peter Thiel, the Unabomber, and murdering people.

[leftstreet]

42. Better to donate to the McDonald's employee about to get doxxed af

[Tommy Carcetti]

43. Nope. nt

[LisaL]

47. It would be against go fund me rules.

So, no, it won't collect millions. It will be shut down.

[sarisataka]

49. Good news!

It appears the suspect is from a wealthy family so he will have the best lawyers money can buy.

Sort of ironic don't 'cha think?

[Mr.WeRP]

52. His family is wealthy. I doubt he needs it

[mcar]

57. This is disappointing

[LeftInTX]

60. I read that his family owns a freak'n castle...a castle!

[TBF]

63. Well, Marx was not wealthy but Engels was -

the son of a wealthy manufacturer. People who grow up poor see capitalism for what it is, but so do the very wealthy.

I know folks were rooting for the folk hero they created in their heads, but children of wealthy couples are often found in the protest groups at universities. This really isn't so odd. I'm interested to hear what his experience was with UHC.

[LeftInTX]

64. No it's not, but he doesn't need a freak'n GFM for his defense!

Che Guevara was also from a wealthy family. But at least he "became" poor.

[Kaleva]

72. His family is rich enough to not need health care insurance

[TBF]

73. Are they though? Is anyone besides the other billionaires?

I'm a chronic patient with rheumatoid arthritis. Even my maintenance meds are over $5K per month, never mind complications.

I think the only people who would say healthcare in this country is "affordable" for anyone outside of billionaires is someone who isn't sick and/or wants to defend the health insurance industry. Do you have some secret knowledge of the Mangione family wealth, and/or whether that wealth is available for his use for healthcare? He's part of a very big family. Maybe he has a trust fund. We don't know, and if he does, we don't know the worth.

[ForgedCrank]

61. Tell me

again how nobody is supporting murder and assassination.
Never thought I'd see the day I reading this crap on DU.

[Jacson6]

69. Sorry, but GOFUNDME does not allow accounts for people accused of commiting a crime.

You could donate directly to his attorney when he hires or appoints one.