It's truly insane that the media is treating any of this like it's normal.

[Initech]

We know what MAGA's true intentions are. They want to destroy the government. They want to eliminate the Department Of Education. They want to eliminate public education. They want to eliminate vaccines. They want to eliminate public health and drug research. They want to gut nearly all of our government departments. They want to deport 15 million people. They want to end birthright citizenship. They want to repeal the 14th amendment to the Constitution. They want to fire over 75% of the government and put each department's stats on a leaderboard on social media like it's a game. They want to ban video games, porn, and Tik Tok. They are appointing neo Nazis, sex offenders, Fox News hosts, and billionaires to run and ruin our nation's institutions. They want to tank the economy by imposing some extreme tariffs on China, Canada and Mexico because they are criminally insane.

Why are we treating this murderous regime with kid gloves on? We're bringing kitchen table knives to a battle that's being fought with rocket launchers, tanks, and sub machine guns. Our nation is being held hostage by sadistic think tanks run by billionaires for billionaires (the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society) and a rogue "news network" that's basically a state run TV propaganda outlet with a different name (Fox News). The media should be repeating this phrase every night: NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL.

NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL.

NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL.

NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL.

NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL.

NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL.

NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL.

[onecaliberal]

1. TURN IT OFF what did they do before the election.

Your viewing allows it to continue.

[Initech]

4. I don't. Haven't for 15 years.

Don't miss it one bit!

[onecaliberal]

10. I turned it off after the debate. Turned off the cable in November 8th.

I’m done.

[PortTack]

17. Exactly....we can exact change if their ratings tank far enough

Lots of REALLY good news sources out there to be bothered watching what cable is putting out!

[MadameButterfly]

36. Sorry. MSNBC has it faults but we need it

Without it Fox wins. Is that better? Someone needs to hear from Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes. We need to know what the RW is doing. If MSNBC tanks because it's too painful for us to watch, the people will only have propaganda. Alternative sources just can't make up for it.

[PortTack]

39. Legacy media is on its last legs including msnbc. Fewer and fewer ppl watch any tv news. The trend is not going away

[Think. Again.]

2. You're absolutely correct...

None of this is normal, and we are driving ourselves headlong into a solid brick wall at high speed by pretending it is.

[Initech]

15. With Tesla powered rocket skates.

Tesla is basically the real life Acme Corporation from Looney Tunes.

[Think. Again.]

25. That's an excellent analogy!!!

[Irish_Dem]

3. The US has been taken over by a US and Russian mob organization.

And crime syndicate.

Trump is seriously mentally ill with dementia and is a career criminal, traitor, rapist.
His high level appointees are the same.

Our democracy, freedom, rule of law are in serious jeopardy and the press pretends it is all normal.

It is the very definition of insanity.

[Initech]

5. Yup, we've been doing the same thing for 45 years and achieved very little.

The definition of insanity indeed.

[Biophilic]

6. The media is doing "their job" of sanewashing an organzied crime syndicate.

Their job is to make "everything ok" so people don't worry...until it's too late to do anything. So far they have been very, very good at what they are doing.

[ScratchCat]

7. But this is exactly what the media wanted

And they got it.

If the media didn't want a Trump Presidency, we wouldn't have it. But they did, and we do.

[chouchou]

24. Yep. Your words ring true

[Blue_Tires]

38. They were absolutely desperate to get the clown and his circus back...

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

8. Media-types have cushy little jobs & live cushy little lives.

They're about as useful as Nero and his:

[BigMin28]

9. The owners

Of the media wanted him. They got him and will prop him up with their coverage of him. The only recourse is do not watch. That is the one way we can get their attention.

[Johnny2X2X]

11. This is where I am at

MSNBC and CNN did just as much to get him re-elected as FOXNews did. Constantly normalizing the insane, picking at Biden and then Harris for every minor little thing when Trump literally shit his pants on live television and they didn't even bother to cover it. But Biden misspeaks once and they're practically breaking into live coverage with the news like it's some kind of national emergency.

I cannot watch those shows anymore, none of them, even the leftist ones partook in the both siderism that has now cost the country its freedom and democracy. Something else will have to rise, something more organic and less corporate controlled, but the mainstream media brought down our Democracy.

[Initech]

12. I can't do it either.

Even TV in general is like not interesting to me anymore since the election. I lost trust in Bill Maher when he was hanging out with MAGA goons like Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers.

I knew something was really fucked up and wrong with the election when both the LA Times and the Washington Post failed to back Kamala despite everything we know about Trump and MAGA. Like they knew the fix was in. Something about that doesn't pass the smell test.

[Johnny2X2X]

13. Katy Tur and Maggie Haberman

For me, during the Michael Cohen testimony that these two were in effect members of the Trump campaign I was expecting a media circus around this scandal. When there was literally nothing, not a blip, no discipline from the NY Times or MSNBC, I posted here that the election could already be lost because Trump might very well own the media outright already.

It wasn't long ago that if it was found out that a member of the media had any ties to any campaign, they'd take a leave of absence or risk being fired. Yet here were two reporters at the NY Times and MSNBC, not exactly FoxNews, being said to, in sworn testimony, taking orders from the Trump campaign for president. They both should have been fired immediately. Nothing happened to either one of them, they both kept reporting for the NY Times and MSNBC on Trump. And it wasn't even a story in the media for more than a couple days, and at that, not a big one.

It was then that I realized if Trump had them on his payroll, he must surely have their bosses on his payroll too for them not facing any discipline. I had been noticing more pro Trump coverage on NPR and PBS too and started wondering who there he had gotten to.

And the Post and Times not endorsing Harris was a response, the billionaires who own those knew Trump was going to win and wanted to curry favor, or avoid being attacked.

[yellow dahlia]

28. There are some on MSNBC who continue to jump up and down, and

shed light, and sound alarms. Nicolle just used the term "bat-bleep crazy".

CNN has relentlessly engaged in both sides-ism.

[returnee]

14. We need a change in the status quo.

We need a hard-core justice, wealth equity, and anti-propaganda party, giving no quarter on any front. I don’t see one at the moment.

[barbtries]

16. CORPORATE media.

which is dead to me now.

turning the news into a profit making entertainment enterprise is an affront to the First Amendment. It has failed at democracy, failed the country, and failed the world.

[Initech]

19. Even talk shows and SNL aren't entertaining to me right now.

Like it's hard to make fun of the situation that is coming. Yeah we can come up with different ways to cope with it. But these are BAD PEOPLE with BAD INTENTIONS. To say we are fucked is an understatement.

[live love laugh]

22. What does the generic word "corporate" connotate? Nothing.

There are all kinds of corporate entities.

Calling them “corporate” imparts little meaning or understanding of the real issue with ownership.

Who CONTROLS the corporate media? Who has the most shares? Who are the CEOs? What are their political affiliations?

[GiqueCee]

18. You are absolutely right...

... but most of our news sources are owned and operated by pathological liars with the moral compass of rabid hyenas. In other words, Republicans. And they're doing Putin's job for him, because they think they can build a conservative Shangri La from the ashes of what's left. They are snakes in the grass, but Putin is a king cobra who has devoted his entire life to the total destruction of America. Ain't gonna be no fuckin' ashes, just scorched earth and corpses.

[Initech]

21. So many people say we're living Idiocracy, but Don't Look Up is a way more realistic scenario for what we're living.

I feel like Leonardo DiCaprio in that scene where he's screaming at people about the fact that there's a meteor coming to destroy earth and no one is paying attention. And I've been saying this for two years now since the Ukraine invasion.

THERE IS A MAD MAN IN MOSCOW SITTING IN THE KREMLIN WHO IS OUT FOR WORLD DOMINATION AND PEOPLE ARE JUST ROLLING OVER AND LETTING HIM WIN!!!

Look, if Putin wins in Ukraine and continues his conquest of Europe, guess what? Game over. There won't be a United States left to protect, and this election was basically letting Putin win in Ukraine. If you enjoy your freedoms they will be gone when Putin and his goons take over. We should be bombing Putin and his goons back to the stone ages. Instead half of this country has their head up their ass because they're distracted by the shiny things on TV and social media.

[GiqueCee]

23. Again...

... you're absolutely right.

[druidity33]

34. I don't think Putin will win in Ukraine. nt.

[live love laugh]

20. It's insane to expect a media controlled by Republicans to act like it's fair and balanced.

[Think. Again.]

26. This is probably the most 'true' thread I've read on DU in a long time.

[yellow dahlia]

27. Thank you! Thank you!

I have been saying the same thing.

And why is the current administration treating it like this a "normal" "transition of power"?

[Dave Id]

29. Not surprized

More than half the voters elected a guy who kissed Putin's ass. Maybe a lot of them don't identify as MAGAts, but they've shown they agree with the MAGA King's ideas and "policies". What else could we expect?

[Meowmee]

30. It was insane the first time

And now it’s even more insane, but it’s pretty much expected. They’ve been capitulating to him for a long time. Maybe not all of them but many.

[uponit7771]

31. THIS !!

[DSandra]

32. Ahh but remember? Profits are more important than people according to big corporations

And it was necessary for them to wring as much profit from the election to serve to their investors, than treat Trump the way that he should've been treated.

[applegrove]

33. They want to stop drug research? I thought the millionaires

and billionaires at the Heritage Foundation want great Healthcare and meds research, great hospitals and healthcare, they just want to price it out of the average person's hands by making Healthcare and medications expensive. The better to not have to spend money on Social Security and Medicare for too many people. The better for Republicans to be the only ones voting after the age of 60. . Was a time pantihose used to be treated with chemicals to make them run after only a few wearings. This is the same thing... they want a good till date on the poor and middle class. We knew a lone corporation was capable of such tricks, or a whole industry, but I doubt Americans expected it from their government and Healthcare. At least not the ones who were fooled into voting Trump.

(Full disclosure my mom would cut off a leg of pantihose that had a run it it then save the good led and panty. When she had two of them she'd put them on, one over the other, and the pantihose would live another wearing. Mark Cuban has an all important workaround on meds but i don't know that he can get access to novel meds under patent. Still we need to think of workarounds for the more serious issue of healthcare).

[Marthe48]

35. I can't go along with crazy

I stopped watching msnbc the first week of October. I think scanning headlines and diving if I want more depth is working for me. I can't bend my reality to accept the mindless acceptance of Bizzarro World. I know where I stand, and will continue to maintain my standards, even if I'm surrounded by idiots.

[Kid Berwyn]

37. Chaos to end Democracy.

Followed by Control to institute the New Feudalism.



Let the good times roll, along with some heads to show who's boss. Right!