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malaise

(278,461 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:05 AM Tuesday

So War criminal Bibi is in court today for corruption

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/10/benjamin-netanyahu-court-corruption-trial


Benjamin Netanyahu has begun giving evidence in a court in Tel Aviv in his long-running corruption trial, becoming the first sitting Israeli prime minister to take the stand as a criminal defendant.

“I have waited eight years for this moment, to say the truth as I remember it, which is important for justice,” said Netanyahu, who was wearing a blue suit and white shirt, with a flag of Israel on one lapel and the yellow ribbon symbol of Israel’s hostages in Gaza on the other.

“But I am also a prime minister. I am leading the country through a seven-front war. And I think the two can be done in parallel.”
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So War criminal Bibi is in court today for corruption (Original Post) malaise Tuesday OP
Step off, Bibi. dchill Tuesday #1
K&R spanone Tuesday #2
War criminal says what? Dave Bowman Tuesday #3
I doubt he will be convicted. People like him rarely are. Lonestarblue Tuesday #4
Apparently true PatSeg Tuesday #12
'bout time! In addition to the ICC case against him, Bibi may face a 9/11 type of inquiry for 7 Oct 2023. C0RI0LANUS Tuesday #5
You do realize that the ICC has no police to enforce any warrants don't you? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #6
Morning Top! How are you? C0RI0LANUS Tuesday #7
When do you think the ICC will indict Assad? Mosby Tuesday #8
Why do you ask me if Assad committed war crimes in Syria? Don't you watch the news? C0RI0LANUS Tuesday #10
Seems like you present yourself as an expert Mosby Tuesday #18
What are your thoughts, Mosby? C0RI0LANUS Tuesday #19
I think Assad is guilty of a wide range of war crimes. Mosby Tuesday #20
Did you see my OP today about two Syrians indicted for alleged war crimes and torture? C0RI0LANUS Tuesday #21
Doing good so far, business is booming for now, but we'll see after Been A Dick Donald takes over. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #9
No sweat, Marine, some of my best pals were %#2/)* jarheads like you. Good luck with business. C0RI0LANUS Tuesday #11
Let's see if leaders can be held accountable for their crimes. alarimer Tuesday #13
The "truth" as I remember it?? WTF? Is that like a "concept of the truth"? BattleRow Tuesday #14
Caught that one too OrangeJoe Tuesday #16
That jumped out at me, too. WinstonSmith4740 Tuesday #17
Netanyahu will likely be given moniss Tuesday #15
Turkey illegally controls 3,400 square miles of Northern Syria. Mosby Tuesday #22
Turkey is a rogue country in my eyes moniss Tuesday #23

PatSeg

(49,751 posts)
12. Apparently true
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:45 AM
Tuesday

We seem to be living in an era of tyrants who aren't held accountable no matter what they do. Their arrogance is so flagrant that they commit their crimes out in the open and defy anyone to do something about it.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,674 posts)
5. 'bout time! In addition to the ICC case against him, Bibi may face a 9/11 type of inquiry for 7 Oct 2023.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:41 AM
Tuesday

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,389 posts)
6. You do realize that the ICC has no police to enforce any warrants don't you?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:49 AM
Tuesday

The ICC relies on member countries police forces to make arrests and transfers to the Hauge for prosecution and it's highly doubtful that nonmembers and probably the majority of members of the ICC would arrest and transfer Nuttyahoo for prosecution, so don't expect to see him in orange any time soon, if ever.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,674 posts)
7. Morning Top! How are you?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:10 AM
Tuesday

Of course I realize that, since I've been writing about this PIFWC, the ICC, INTERPOL, and the difficulties of netting Bibi for months.

An indicted war criminal is an indicted war criminal, regardless of nationality. I just posted something about two Syrian PIFWCs in GD if you have time to check it out.

BTW: Don't spill your coffee when you see this face from way back when:


(1969 mugshot of US Army 1LT William Calley courtesy of Wikimedia Commons)

Mosby

(17,558 posts)
8. When do you think the ICC will indict Assad?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:21 AM
Tuesday

Do you think Assad committed war crimes against Syrians?

C0RI0LANUS

(1,674 posts)
10. Why do you ask me if Assad committed war crimes in Syria? Don't you watch the news?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:37 AM
Tuesday

I don't work for the ICC so I can't answer for them, but the process against Bashar al-Assad at the ICC started years ago.

Sources:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47483714

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/16/world-court-rules-against-syria-torture-case

Mosby

(17,558 posts)
18. Seems like you present yourself as an expert
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:45 AM
Tuesday

How would you compare and contrast the war crimes committed by Netanyahu vs Assad?

Any thoughts?

Mosby

(17,558 posts)
20. I think Assad is guilty of a wide range of war crimes.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 12:18 PM
Tuesday

He basically ignores international laws and conventions. He has used chemical weapons on Syrians, he ignores differences between combatants and civilians, leading to repeated mass killings, his use of aerial bombardment is "indiscriminate and disproportionate". Further, pro-Assad forces "continued to perpetrate massacres and conduct widespread attacks on civilians, systematically committing murder, torture, rape and enforced disappearance amounting to crimes against humanity"¹


By contrast the Netanyahu goverment, which oversaw and is responsible for the worst security failure in Israel's history, has despite that, prosecuted the war against their enemies in accordance with the laws of war. The government and the IDF have tried to minimize civilian casualties in numerous ways, making clear to Gazans and the world that their enemy is Hamas and Hezbollah.


¹https://web.archive.org/web/20240217232043/https://www.refworld.org/reference/countryrep/unhrc/2014/en/20894

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,389 posts)
9. Doing good so far, business is booming for now, but we'll see after Been A Dick Donald takes over.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:24 AM
Tuesday

Unfortunately, I do recognize that face, I was in Vietnam when that happened, although I didn't find out about it until I got home, that POS didn't get what he deserved IMHO, he should have gotten the DP, along with many more, for their actions that fateful day.

Sorry if I sounded a little bit condescending, that wasn't my intention by any means.
Peace out
Dan.

alarimer

(16,624 posts)
13. Let's see if leaders can be held accountable for their crimes.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:52 AM
Tuesday

They generally are not, or they end up sneaking off in the middle of the night for asylum in some country with no extradition treaty.

Let's see how this goes. This will sort of be like Al Capone going to jail for tax evasion, rather than all the murders.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,161 posts)
17. That jumped out at me, too.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 10:53 AM
Tuesday

It's their "Lie with Impunity" card. "Well, that's the way I remember it"". Remember Guiliani asking, "What is truth?" These guys put no restraints on their own behavior...only ours.

moniss

(6,053 posts)
15. Netanyahu will likely be given
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 10:45 AM
Tuesday

a minor rap on the knuckles if that. The Powers That Be are more concerned about making sure he continues the expansion of the northern territory. AKA land grab of some other country's land which is deemed illegal by every country in the world except two. The one doing the grabbing and the one supplying a steady stream of bombs and allowing it to go on.

moniss

(6,053 posts)
23. Turkey is a rogue country in my eyes
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 06:37 PM
Tuesday

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and it doesn't mean anything to my opinion, in a positive way, that they are in NATO.

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