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LauraInLA

(1,341 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:25 PM Tuesday

A worthwhile article about our relationship with vigilantism: " Some Other America, One I Do Not Know"

Some people are very upset about the public reaction to the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. The killing has generated horror, but also mocking memes, a wave of hostility towards the healthcare industry, and rhetoric that stops barely short of calling the murder justified.

The Washington Post calls it a “sickness,” saying “those who excuse or celebrate Mr. Thompson’s killing reveal an ends-justify-the-means sentiment that is flatly inconsistent with stable democracy” and that “most Americans probably reject this kind of thinking.” The Yale School of Management calls it “very un-American.” My friend David French says that online “activism is attracting some of the most cruel and self-righteous people in America. There’s a remarkable lack of grace and compassion.”

With the greatest respect to these worthies — well, at least to David — I am not familiar with the America they’re talking about.

America is largely aspirational. We talk big and then, more or less, sometimes strive towards goals like justice, equality, decency. Many people are willing to put their shoulder to the wheel of those aspirations even in the face of the many ways America falls short. I’ve written about a formative experience I had as a young lawyer: attending a naturalization ceremony for Filipino World War II veterans who still exulted to become Americans even after America had betrayed them for decades. Those men still believed in the promise of America despite so many years of broken promises. Many of our greatest citizens have worked to better this country even as it has treated them as less than full Americans or even less than human.
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https://www.popehat.com/p/some-other-america-one-i-do-not-know

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Blue_Tires

(56,230 posts)
3. I'm still trying to figure out how
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:50 PM
Tuesday

Mr. "Killed a Homeless Drifter on the Subway" is treated like an all-conquering hero...

Blue_Tires

(56,230 posts)
6. Not really... Both men saw the targets as threats
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 05:00 PM
Tuesday

And both men took the law into their own hands. But only one is going to prison for the rest of his natural life. 🤔

LauraInLA

(1,341 posts)
7. My comment was specifically about the Daniel Perry situation -- I don't see him as either a hero or villain.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 05:30 PM
Tuesday

I think the hero/villain paradigm is more easily applied to Luigi Mangione.

Trellastic

(15 posts)
4. Revolutions happen.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:52 PM
Tuesday

The French had a revolution. France helped the United States in the American Revolution. Is it in the constitution that people can't have a revolution?

Bonx

(2,213 posts)
9. So shooting this innocent guy in the back on the street is the start of a revolution?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 05:34 PM
Tuesday

F that kind of 'revolution' and everyone involved.

LauraInLA

(1,341 posts)
10. I do not want an actual revolution precisely because I don't really believe they can be accomplished without violence.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 05:37 PM
Tuesday

I do not think this is the start of a revolution — just the beginning of more targeted violence.

Bonx

(2,213 posts)
8. "rhetoric that stops barely short of calling the murder justified."
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 05:32 PM
Tuesday

There's plenty of rhetoric to be found that does *not* stop short. Rhetoric that gleefully and mockingly celebrates his murder.

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