Sen Fetterman on gunman: "He's the asshole that's going to die in prison. Congratulations if you want to celebrate that.

[Dennis Donovan]

Sahil Kapur
John Fetterman on Luigi Mangione and the online reaction: “He’s the asshole that’s going to die in prison. Congratulations if you want to celebrate that. A sewer is going to sewer. That's what social media is about this. And I don't know why the media wants to turn that into a story, just with these trolls saying these kinds of things anonymously like that. I don't know why that's news. Remember, he has two children that are going to grow up without their father… It's vile. And if you've gunned someone down that you don't happen to agree with their views or the business that they're in, hey, you know, I'm next, they're next, he's next, she's next.”
5:47 PM · Dec 10, 2024

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[ColinC]

1. Hes got a point. The one person to bring 24 hour attention

To the mass murderers in the healthcare industry is going to die in prison, while the far worse criminals continue to literally make a killing -and too rich to probably care about even when one of them is murdered.

[onecaliberal]

2. We will see.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

3. Until the next one. Gods willing. n/t

[TheProle]

13. Yep. This guy... fuck him... he'll die in prison

As for whether voters and their representatives will work to reform healthcare within the legal system of the United States remains to be seen.

If Congress just keeps taking Big Insurance money while merely paying lip service to reform, nothing will change.

But if half the energy spent on online love letters to Luigi was spent on legitimate protest and activism, maybe something could.

But to be clear, despite the obstacles, there is a legal path to healthcare reform.

[ColinC]

20. Primary season for congress isnt too far away already.

Perhaps folks should be thinking about challenging the recipients in both parties who receive the most donations from health insurance companies.

[TheProle]

22. Damn straight

[ColinC]

25. Opensecrets suggests there is plenty of room for improvement for both parties.

[Autumn]

47. That is exactly what should be done. We have written, we have begged, we have protested and all we get

is M4A or public option will never, never happen. Make it clear to the politicians that they give us Healthcare or they go away. .

[ColinC]

48. DUers should run for office

Hint hint -shrug shrug

Edit: Or is it hint hunt nudge nudge? You know what I mean! 😆

[Emile]

4. Who said if you can't say something nice don't say nothing at all?

I don't think it was Fetterman.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

6. No pardon recommendation?

I forget, what was the body count on J6?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

7. man what a peach

[brush]

9. Did the stroke change this guy's personality? He's no longer...

the likable person we thought we knew before.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. No

People just bought what he was selling until he didn’t need to sell it anymore.

[brush]

16. Gess so. His staff/social media people created a persona that wasn't him at all.

All the videos of him interacting with governor, was it? Seems like bait and switch advertising.

[Butterflylady]

78. No, I'm sorry, he wasn't like that when he was Lt. Governor.

That's why I voted for him.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

80. I

I had a stroke one year ago and I'm still the same miserable asshole I used to be. Nothing has changed. Seriously, I may be depressed of course, but my personality hasn't changed.

[brush]

89. That tells me what I need to know about him. Keep being who you are.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

92. Thanks

But he may have reacted to the stroke differently. Plus, I have no idea what meds he's on. But a personality change is some serious issues. He has seemed to recover from his stroke already (I have not) so that's good news for him.

[leftstreet]

10. Is he okay? n/t

[modrepub]

11. Well Good Luck Finding A Jury

That won't have at least one sympathizer who may hold out.

Sorry Senator, but the sandwich you gave me has sh-t in it and I don't plan on eating it. But you're welcome to if you want.

Sorry, I'm out of Fs to give. Thoughts and prayers.

[tritsofme]

14. Fetterman 2028!

[Autumn]

59. For president? He doesn't stand a chance.

[Alephy]

67. Lol

[Hellbound Hellhound]

15. The good Senator persecuting this man publicly without a fair trial might well be grounds for a mistrial.

It'd be exceptionally unfortunate if someone were to declare a mistrial because a popular public figure tried to sway a jury without due process.

[Progressive dog]

17. Good for Fetterman

Anyone who supports vigilante killing should be ashamed. That kind of evil destroys civilization.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

21. That kind of evil MADE civilization. Just to be historically clear. n/t

[Progressive dog]

27. Sure it did, in your imagination.

Civilization is based on the rule of law where people come together to protect each others' lives and properties.
Savage killers are not and never were part of it except to tear it down.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

30. Civ is based on the powerful and wealthy subjugating and dominating others, killing those who opposed them.

What, you think the Sengoku period of Japan was just flowers and unicorn farts? The Soviet Revolution? The American Revolution? War of the Roses? French Revolution? Korean War? Vietnam? Desert Storm? Operation Praying Mantis? D-Day? I'd continue to list off EVERY FUCKING WAR AND CONFLICT IN HUMAN HISTORY but I'm pretty sure you couldn't read most of them.

Violence solves everything. Every single advancement in human history has been, or is, the result of violence and bloodshed.

[Progressive dog]

36. So the Japanese would have been better off by

just killing everyone they didn't like? Is that what you are saying.?
Of course civilizations still have sick people who kill others and even some who justify it.
There are even people who pretend to be civilized but think they can kill because they have a reason.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

37. They DID kill everyone they didn't like. And we killed more of them back. WE WON. Violence shut them up.

Just like the Germans, just like the Italians, just like the Homo Sapiens did to the Neanderthals. Violence has been a part of our DNA since day one, and the winners move on.

They're killing millions of us. We kill ONE of them and suddenly all the bootlicking shaftsucking pickme fanboys crawl from the woodworks to defend the oppressors, hoping for a crumb or two, a dollar here, a quarter there.


We saw this in Abolition times. Lines are now being drawn, and some people make their position clear. Didn't end well for the Confederate side last time, either.

[Progressive dog]

43. During abolition the north chose to defend the Constitution,

They did not attack the south to free the slaves, the south attacked them. The north fought back to maintain the Constitution. John Brown was tried, convicted, and executed by our civilization.
BTW There is no proof that Homo Sapiens did anything to the Neanderthals. There is proof that many Europeans carry some Neanderthal genes. You have even less proof (yes less than none) that these imaginary others are killing any of usnd you won't find any, either.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

44. Good lord, you're actively using "They used violence for good!" as an excuse to forgive violence?

Okay, fine; Luigi used violence for good. See? Boom, he's innocent, let him off.

Nine Hells, twenty years ago, Junior High debate club was easier.

[Progressive dog]

49. My god, you don't understand

the difference between being attacked and being the attacker

[Hellbound Hellhound]

50. So we should have just taken Pearl Harbor and been done with it? N/t

[Progressive dog]

52. Who is this we?

That is incredible. Japan tried to destroy our civilization using violence. We had an absolute right to defend ourselves.
I guess in your world violence is always good and I think that is well past just wrong.

[lame54]

85. He wants Trump pardoned...

Did any of the dead officers have kids?

[Progressive dog]

86. I'm curious about why you think

agreeing with Fetterman on one issue means I agree with him on all issues or even know where he stands. To me that is unrelated to what I posted.

[lame54]

88. It's very related...

He says how dare we excuse the actions of a murderer just after he excuses the actions of a murderer

[Progressive dog]

91. I'm not excuding any actions of any murderer

Is not reporting a hush money payment the same ad murder in your mind?

[lame54]

93. My mistake...

Although I think Fetterman is wrong to ask for Trump's pardon
I mixed it up with those dems asking for his pardon for Jan 6

[BeerBarrelPolka]

94. No mistake

Trump's inaction killed hundreds of thousands of people with Covid. He's a murderer in my book.

Plus...there's this one guy alone in his cell.....

[lame54]

95. I agree...

No dem should be calling for Trump's pardon from anything
They need to send a unifying message which they are not
They are rolling over

I just had my facts wrong in this particular exchange and wanted to clear it up

[BeerBarrelPolka]

96. I know

I was just butting in to support you. My apologies lame.

[lame54]

97. No apologies needed...

We both see the lack of dem leadership

[BeerBarrelPolka]

98. .

[Cha]

18. Whoa.. WHAT! How about TSF Going To "Prison" Instead

of being "Pardoned"!?

[Meowmee]

19. Yep

Apparently that is ok, after he murdered my father and millions more with covid. No justice there.

[Cha]

26. Ohh I'm So Sorry, Meowmee...

I can't believe Sen Fetterman wants Pres Biden to pardon TSF.!!

[Meowmee]

39. Thanks 🤗

I’m disappointed to hear him say that obviously and not totally surprised I guess because he was not the first and I’m sure there will be other D saying the same thing. I have lost faith in what they are doing now, not that I ever really had any before now anyway lol. Until the party recognizes that you have probably equal numbers of D that are beholden to insurance companies and things like that nothing will ever change. Pardoning orange psycho would be the worst thing they could do for so many reasons.

[Cha]

53. " Pardoning orange psycho would be the worst thing they could do for so many reasons."

I Agree, Well Siad!

[Cha]

55. PS.... And What About What's Going to Happen in

the Next 4 years?! Did the geniuses who want TSF "pardoned" Think of That?

[Meowmee]

56. Yes exactly

I think they’ve lost their collective minds, in my opinion.

[Dennis Donovan]

23. I haven't forgotten about that either

Sen Fetterman's suggestion that Biden pardon Trump.

[Cha]

31. It's the first thing I thought of...

I couldn't see past it. It means Everything..

After all the Laws he Broke & Shit he Pulled.. and he was responsible for getting people killed with his COVID DENIAL. and Jan 6 Insurrection..

[bluestarone]

29. EXACTLY!!!!

We don't hear shit about that!!

[Cha]

34. TSF Did Much Worse than Luigi Mangione

and Fetterman wants him "pardoned".. Unreal!

And, no I'm not condoning the assassination. But when I weigh the Crimes... the Sick Fuck Doesn't get a "pardon".

[bluestarone]

38. Yea, when i heard that

I thought what happened him? He definitely changed.

[Cha]

51. Someone thought maybe he was Gearing

up for his next election in Gone Fascist PA now.... but still imo wanting to pardon TSF is Beyond that Pale.

Good Luck to Gov Shapiro!

[asm128]

24. That's rich, coming from this guy

I voted for and backed him, but, seriously, fuck this guy. Does he give a shit about the 68000 people that die every year due to denied care? Or for the immigrant that got stabbed in the street in NYC?

And vigilante? Wasn't he the asshole chasing down a guy with a shotgun?

I'm hoping we can replace him in the upcoming elections (2028 or whenever). He can't pretend to be progressive this time.

[biophile]

32. Pennsylvania went for drumpf this election

He might be pandering to the right to get crossover appeal. His term is up in two years, I think.

[Butterflylady]

82. His term ends in 2028. He was voted in 2022. Same as Shapiro.

[biophile]

90. Thank you for the correction

I was thinking he came in with Biden. I was a poll watcher when he won though and my precinct is reliably red. When they counted the final tally one of the poll workers said he was surprised at the number of votes Fetterman got in our little precinct. I thought to myself “Then won’t you be shocked when he wins!” 😆.

[Xavier Breath]

33. Rec.

[Silent Type]

45. Do you have a citation for that 68,000? I bet it's 68k uninsured, but lack of insurance is another matter.

In any event, voted for you on an “alert.”

[LeftInTX]

71. So vote for Oz if he runs next time!

Or if there's a Ted Cruz clone, I'm sure you will find him suitable!

Tired of Democrats getting bashed. Josh Shapiro is getting bashed. Surprised Biden isn't getting bashed. His press secretary used the same words that Josh Shapiro used.

I really wonder if anyone supports Democrats on here. Has any elected Democrat come out in support of the shooter?

Maybe this should be Green Party underground.

[Silent Type]

74. Still waiting for that citation on 68,000. Still bet it's uninsured, but will consider any citation, even from some

blogger making crud up.

[Butterflylady]

84. He never said he was progressive.

I don't remember if he said before his stroke or after. All I remember is I read it here..

[asm128]

87. He backtracked later

I don't have the time, but there are tons of tweets and interviews where he said he was a progressive, at least before he was elected.

[Shrek]

28. Liking Fetterman more and more all the time

[Celerity]

73. Big fan of a pardon for Trump? Do you, like Fetterman, think Trump's NY criminal case was politically motivated?

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/12/05/pardon-hunter-biden-donald-trump-john-fetterman/76808578007/

Sen. John Fetterman, D-Pa., argued on Thursday that President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden and President-elect Donald Trump both deserve pardons after facing what he called “politically motivated” legal trials.

[Omnipresent]

35. You know John....

You don’t have to keep sharing your opinions with us, you can simply shut the fuck up.
Can you at least do that for us?

[BeerBarrelPolka]

40. He's

He's just another in the now long line of cowards that shake in their boots over trump.

[peregrinus]

41. Hey Captain Sweatpants!

Nobody asked for your opinion.

[LizBeth]

42. Why would it be for life, for one murder cause gotta tell you, not hearing that sentence

for any other murder, ... ever. Or is it once again cause it is one of our special people murdered that is treated specially? 50'ish yrs for one murder? Sound right to you all?

[Meowmee]

61. Not sure, we haven't heard anything yet about the actual charges or have we?

[LizBeth]

62. So he needs to stfu. I say five yrs and 3 with good behavior....

[Meowmee]

63. You could be right. I don't really know anything about what the time frames are for different types of murder charges

Yes, you would think, considering his recent remarks about pardoning the orange psycho, he would have the sense to keep silent on this.

[Autumn]

46. Fetterman is such a nice guy, seems to really like people. However the children are usually the ones to .

be gunned down but they don't seem to matter. . Here in America.

[Kali999]

54. another entitled rich kid

Fetterman comes from money.

[Klarkashton]

60. "Don't agree with their views or the business they're in"

Spoken like a real live politician.

[mcar]

64. Sen. Fetterman is correct

I'm appalled at the progressive's response to this murder.

[SunImp]

68. Lol, what progressive is doing that?

Also why are you singling out progressives when the general consensus on this murder is apathy and that feeling transcends across party lines?

[mcar]

70. Lol read this site since the murder

The consensus is not apathy, it's glee. Over the murder of a human being.

I don't give AF about what hateful idiots on the other side are saying. I care about our community.

Celebrating the murder of a person is vile.

[Dave says]

65. I really don't like Fetterman

He seems simple-minded, vile, and angry.

(I suspect, after 22 years here, I might have my first banned post.)

[Paladin]

77. Others agree with your assessment.

Me, for instance.

[TheFarseer]

66. He's wrong

It wasn’t because the shooter disagreed with the CEOs views. He disagreed with his actions that kill who knows how many people and cause injury to many more. At least get that part right. I’m fairly disappointed with Fetterman and not just for this.

[Eko]

69. Kill one person, go to jail.

Kill thousands, get a bonus.

[Celerity]

72. Best post on the thread.

[dalton99a]

75. +1

[JohnSJ]

76. He is absolutely right, and those celebrating this as those he is some kind of hero are really messed up.

[ThePartyThatListens]

81. This is some world-class virtue signalling homeboy is engaging in here

Hope he has enough spit left for Trump's boots.

[lame54]

83. Not asking for a pardon?...

This guy's all over the place