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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGarland failed us again.....
Dont even bother to defend him.
Barr's doj violated multiple laws and fbi policicies in wiretapping members of congress and their staffs.
Garland knew, and did nothing to prosecute or even investigate it.
No IG investigation. No new policies. Nobody fired.
That about says it all. F him.
JanMichael
(25,283 posts)Sarc
Bluethroughu
(5,841 posts)There seems to be an awful lot of people working in our government to do nefarious things or cover for those doing it.
Baitball Blogger
(48,258 posts)TBF
(34,550 posts)working in law firms I didn't see a lot of illegal things, but definitely things that would give you pause. When you live in Washington awhile you notice that the long-term government workers really know a lot, as do the Senators who keep getting reelected. The folks that are in those roles know how to get things done and cut deals. And there are quite a few lawyers going back and forth between private industry and public service jobs. Folks live near each other, send their kids to the same schools, no matter which party they are. So, yes, a lot of "meeting before the meeting" type stuff did happen. I think in the old days there was also a lot more negotiation and talking going on just in general. I haven't been there for quite some time, so I don't know how it is now. There seems to be so much more animosity between the 2 parties, but maybe that's just a show for constituents back home.
erronis
(16,987 posts)There are a few people serving in government who have absolute integrity. Too few.
Farmer-Rick
(11,500 posts)But the nonstop, direct and threatening propaganda put out continually by Russian agents. I imagine they target people in power particularly. It isn't even mildly controlled. Putin is having a grand old time running hog wild on our social media, emails and corporate news.
Lonestarblue
(11,928 posts)However, at least he would not have taken bribes like Thomas and Alito.
RockRaven
(16,444 posts)even after leadership changes. Government, non-government, they all do it.
edhopper
(34,995 posts)To prosecute Hunter. Fuck that guy.
bigtree
(90,259 posts)...but no 'fuck the judges' or 'fuck the perps with their bullshit appeals' or 'fuck the Supreme Court maga majority'?
You're blaming the people who were actively prosecuting Trump, instead of the ones who actually delayed his prosecution until the election.
Weird flex.
getagrip_already
(17,498 posts)Name the case?
I call bs.
There was no case he was following along the lines of this issue.
There was no internal review. Nobody was fired. Nobody was prosecuted.
Sewa
(1,343 posts)Investigators for 4 yrs and it will disappear when Trump takes over.
Try to defend that 🤮
uponit7771
(91,918 posts)quakerboy
(14,173 posts)I cant seem to find any evidence of garland being in any court on Nov 5 or 6th of this year.
That said.. 2024 was too late. If he'd literally been in court in late 2021, delays and appeals would be relatively dealt with by now. Instead the most relevant didnt even start till 2023, when it became clear he was running again. The timing, ironically, appears entirely political, and it seems pretty clear Garland would not have filed charges on him if Trump had done the traditional thing and quietly walked away from politics.
bigtree
(90,259 posts)...the same prosecutor who Merrick Garland tasked in the Fall of 2021 to investigate the WH finances.
He was one of the last prosecutors to argue before the judge IN COURT before voters effectively ended the case which was days before adjudication to proceed to trial.
...here:
Prosecutor Thomas Windom urged Chutkan to use the new indictment to handle all questions around immunity, including whether that covered Trumps communications with then-Vice President Mike Pence or the former presidents outreach to private citizens.
https://rollcall.com/2024/09/05/judge-says-election-wont-affect-timeline-for-trump-prosecution/
___Thomas Windom, a little-known federal prosecutor who was representing the Special Counsel position today on the Trump protective order, is the man Deputy AG Lisa Monaco tasked in Fall 2021 to oversee key elements of the Justice Departments investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election results - one of the first indications that Trump and his associates were under DOJ investigation.
Mr. Windom, working under the close supervision of Garlands top aides, had been leading investigators who have been methodically seeking information about the roles played by some of Mr. Trumps top advisers, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and John Eastman, with a mandate to go as high up the chain of command as evidence warrants."
"Mr. Windoms second objective mirroring one focus of the Jan. 6 committee is a widening investigation into the group of lawyers close to Mr. Trump who helped to devise and promote the plan to create alternate slates of electors."
Klarkashton
(2,229 posts)In a walnut paneled office kind of nitwit.
slightlv
(4,398 posts)LauraInLA
(1,341 posts)about Garland. Could you give me a source for his political registration?
slightlv
(4,398 posts)Since I *once* had a subscription to WP, I'm assuming those are the articles. I do remember seeing it multiple times, and in fact I want to remember that was one of the reasons Obama put him up for the SC. He thought he'd be able to get the okay on him, and not on one of our own party members. And then McTurtle just screwed everyone over, except the billionaires.
LauraInLA
(1,341 posts)a more conservative jurist, meaning he ruled more conservatively, not that he was an actual conservative.
Karasu
(286 posts)right.
Jit423
(380 posts)They have been tough on ALL criminals. Tish especially looks out for her state, NY and city NYC. You do the crime, she wants you to serve the time. She know how much Trump screwed over NY. Were politics in volved? Maybe but politics would not be involved if there had been no crime.
We need someone with guts like hers to lead the FBI and the Justice Department. IMHOP
Silent Type
(7,138 posts)getagrip_already
(17,498 posts)Why would he be?
Silent Type
(7,138 posts)NotHardly
(1,284 posts)ancianita
(38,770 posts)AG's don't go after former AG's. They can but they don't.
Especially while they're trying to rebuild their current Dept of Justice and hire more competent Division enforcement teams to replace the political and incompetent ones Barr left behind when he suddenly resigned in December 2020.
The decision to investigate and prosecute a former AG has to be based on the strength of the evidence and whether a crime is believed to have been committed.
You act as if you knew there was evidence of Barr's criminality all along. You didn't. You don't.
Sure, investigating a former AG is legal, but pursuing charges against a former AG can be highly politicized due to the high profile nature of the position.
So now you decide the Biden administration should have endured a big political fight that Joe would have had on his hands right at the point of the Covid pandemic, all that while he had to hit the ground running to rebuild its supply chains covid broke, and an enduring economy.
Bitch slap Garland all you want, but your shoulda/woulda/coulda claims are nothing but weak hearsay hype.
republianmushroom
(17,943 posts)Farmer-Rick
(11,500 posts)That's what Trump and Putin count on.
ancianita
(38,770 posts)DOJ norms that existed before Trump or Putin showed up. The fact that they are advantaged by systems in the country isn't the fault of the systems or those who make them work.
Any change our systems of enforcement should be because they improve justice for all, not because autocrats abuse them.
This too-late IG report isn't being used in such a way as to give timely notice to the DOJ's operations; what it seems to reveal is flaws in the IG system of timely information gathering so that flaws can be remedied in a timely way. I recall over the last 6 years that more than one IG hasn't done their job in a way that helps improve government. If Congress in 2022 revised the Inspector General Act of 1978, and the IG this time found no laws broken, criticism of the AG or the DOJ in this context are, once again, subjective and unfounded.
LymphocyteLover
(6,880 posts)LisaM
(28,686 posts)I don't think he would have. I think he would have found someone more forceful.
I think Garland was a very conservative choice for SCOTUS anyway, but he probably would have been fine there.
I am not saying I blame Obama, but I think Biden's sense of fair play led him to choose Garland and if we'd been lucky enough to have Biden for a second term, I think he would have chosen someone else.
MadameButterfly
(1,854 posts)Biden didn't have to do that
LisaM
(28,686 posts)I think that he either trusted that it was a better pick than it was, or he was doing it in a kind of homage to Obama.
It also wasn't very evident at first that he was as poor a choice as he turned out to be. Why he slow walked some things and relentlessly picked on Hunter Biden will always be a mystery to me (well, unless he writes a book and something comes out). History won't look fondly on him now, and that's his own doing.
MadameButterfly
(1,854 posts)it would have inflamed the Right. Dems have to stop worrying about indignation and claims of unfairness on the Right since there is nothing we can ever do to please them. Though it may be a bit late to learn that lesson.
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onecaliberal
(36,203 posts)Grasswire2
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republianmushroom
(17,943 posts)To political.
46 months and counting
Escape
(60 posts)we were all talking about a couple of weeks ago? Has it been released yet?
republianmushroom
(17,943 posts)Escape
(60 posts)I am sure Merrick will get those items checked off his list well before Biden leaves office.
AKwannabe
(6,399 posts)Beckett
(11 posts)Wish Biden had picked someone with a spine, energy, and fight. Now look where we are.
Cthulu on call
(32 posts)Meaning there fact he can even walk is an amazing accomplishment.
2naSalit
(93,098 posts)NOT doing his job to protect the Constitution?
I mean, he's as bad a Barr FFS.
uncledad
(32 posts)Yes, Garland and Blinken will go down as two of the worst cabinet heads in recent history. Garland completely bungled the Stump J6 investigation as well as all the bullshit Barr pulled while he was Ag. He also allowed a completely political prosecution of Hunter Biden to run wild. Blinken (with Biden's apparent blessing) did absolutely nothing to stop the genocide that is still taking place in Gaza, now Israel is grabbing land in Syria and still crickets. Those two fucked up Biden's legacy far more than the price of eggs!
MichMan
(13,391 posts)Why didn't he?
BurnDoubt
(67 posts)Remember when Rudy was running all over town bragging about how he was in the New York office of the FBi "every day"? I'm sure there is compromat on all the players, including Rudy. If you can find the handle, you can turn it. "Gene, Gene made a machine. Hank, Hank turned the crank. Art, Art ........".--- OR--- "Everybody's got something to hide... 'cept for me and my monkey". This is how History is made. And Sausage.
nowforever
(404 posts)Will be remembered as a judicious spineless AG and Biden's most critical error in judgement.
Xipe Totec
(44,086 posts)HereForTheParty
(212 posts)Only got put up to somehow get revenge on the MAGAts for denying him the Supreme Court. Joke was on us.
Skittles
(159,936 posts)it is by design
I agree - F him
Picaro
(1,834 posts)If hes an institutionalist he is tasked with preserving and defending the system.
He did that.