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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(10,362 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:29 AM Yesterday

2 year old Fresno, California boy shoots and kills his 22 year old mom. gun belonged to boyfriend

https://abc7chicago.com/post/woman-accidentally-shot-killed-2-year-old-child-northeast-fresno-police-say/15630951/

FRESNO, Calif. -- Police now say a woman was killed by her 2-year-old child during an accidental shooting in northeast Fresno last week.

The Fresno Police Department has identified the victim as 22-year-old Jessinya Mina.

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Police say Mina's toddler was able to reach an unsecured gun inside the apartment.

"The firearm was stored in a location where the toddler accessed the firearm, and at some point, in time, while handling that particular weapon, the toddler was able to manipulate the trigger, and it actually struck Mina as she was lying in bed," said Lt. Paul Cervantes with the Fresno Police Department.

When officers arrived at the apartment complex, Mina's 18-year-old boyfriend, Andrew Sanchez, was starting to take her to the hospital.

First responders then stepped in and took Mina to the hospital, where she later died.

In a statement to Action News, Mina's sister says Sanchez neglected Mina's requests not to keep a gun in the house.

Police say Sanchez was arrested and booked into the Fresno County jail that night for negligent storage of a firearm and felony child endangerment but has since bailed out, adding he has no criminal history.


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2 year old Fresno, California boy shoots and kills his 22 year old mom. gun belonged to boyfriend (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Yesterday OP
So, if there weren't a gun in the house... maveric Yesterday #1
Prescisely.. what tragic waste of life. Cha Yesterday #3
How does homegirl 22 hrs ago #7
It is legal for a parent to give an 18 year old a gun in CA. SunSeeker 22 hrs ago #10
Thank you homegirl 14 hrs ago #22
18 Rebl2 3 hrs ago #46
It happens. H2O Man Yesterday #2
Too bad the mom didn't have a gun to shoot her child first!!! Coventina Yesterday #4
But he still has freedom. Traildogbob 11 hrs ago #35
I was thinking MsLeopard 9 hrs ago #40
He should stay in prison for as long as she's dead. NBachers 23 hrs ago #5
Tragic for mother and child. Trellastic 23 hrs ago #6
Gun owner needs jail time Old Crank 22 hrs ago #8
I am having a lot of trouble with this story. A 2 year old accesses a loaded niyad 22 hrs ago #9
Yes, I am have a tough time believing this story too. SunSeeker 22 hrs ago #12
Good questions NJCher 22 hrs ago #13
I haven't read the story but I know the U.S. leads the world in toddlers shooting parents (and siblings) Hassin Bin Sober 10 hrs ago #38
From the article MagickMuffin 13 hrs ago #23
How did 2 yr old pull trigger? SheltieLover 11 hrs ago #29
A gun like a glock or similar..... getagrip_already 11 hrs ago #37
Good grief! SheltieLover 5 hrs ago #41
My revolver has an 11.5 lb trigger pull in DA Kaleva 4 hrs ago #42
It also likely has an active safety..... getagrip_already 3 hrs ago #45
For semi autos, not having a round in the chamber would prevent many tragedies Kaleva 14 min ago #47
I'm with you BeerBarrelPolka 13 hrs ago #24
Right & how did a 2 yr old pull the trigger? SheltieLover 11 hrs ago #26
Yes, something of an odiferous nature in Denmark... yagotme 11 hrs ago #27
Yes! SheltieLover 11 hrs ago #30
"guns don't kill, people do" Skittles 22 hrs ago #11
Did they bag boyfriends hands for gsr??? How tazcat 22 hrs ago #14
Exactly! SheltieLover 11 hrs ago #31
Five and a half pounds sarisataka 11 hrs ago #32
Some single action triggers are in ounces. yagotme 11 hrs ago #34
I think there is a chance the BF shot her. NT Celerity 19 hrs ago #15
Either directly or indirectly, he did. Crunchy Frog 17 hrs ago #17
IOW, she was killed by her boyfriend. Crunchy Frog 18 hrs ago #16
The boyfriend did it, cone on obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #18
There have been several of these stories where the mom had the gun in her purse in the car maxsolomon 11 hrs ago #28
You beat me to it. I just posted the same upthread before seeing yours. Hassin Bin Sober 10 hrs ago #39
The really sad part is we see a toddler-kills-parent-or-sibling story like this in America every few weeks Blue_Tires 4 hrs ago #44
Hmmmmmmmm malaise 17 hrs ago #19
Yeah, this situation stinks in a number of ways. Paladin 17 hrs ago #20
Was the boyfriend an irresponsible gun owner? The boyfriend needs to be Emile 17 hrs ago #21
I'm numb to these stories. maxsolomon 12 hrs ago #25
I do not know why so many doubt the story sarisataka 11 hrs ago #33
Will the 2 year old Traildogbob 11 hrs ago #36
There's our "well-regulated militia" again... Blue_Tires 4 hrs ago #43

Cha

(305,693 posts)
3. Prescisely.. what tragic waste of life.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:41 AM
Yesterday

If only there wasn't a gun laying around so a 2 year could get it.

But.. Gun Culture USA.

Trellastic

(13 posts)
6. Tragic for mother and child.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:59 AM
23 hrs ago

This poor child will now carry this sadness from an incident that would have been prevented if the boyfriend practiced basic common sense. Prayers and condolences for her loved ones.

Old Crank

(4,795 posts)
8. Gun owner needs jail time
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:04 AM
22 hrs ago

And total ban for gun ownership.

This is not an accident. Totally preventable action.

niyad

(120,398 posts)
9. I am having a lot of trouble with this story. A 2 year old accesses a loaded
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:05 AM
22 hrs ago

gun. Was it on the floor? The mother is sleeping, yet the child manages to shoot her? Was she sleeping on the floor? What am I missing here? And, sadly, why on earth, when the fucking idiot boyfriend ignored her expressed wishes, and brought a gun into the home, did she not kick his rude, ignorant ass to the curb?

SunSeeker

(53,928 posts)
12. Yes, I am have a tough time believing this story too.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:27 AM
22 hrs ago

Sounds much more likely that he shot her and blamed it on the 2 year old. I really hope that was the case and they prove it. The kid will already be messed up enough growing up without a mom, I hope the poor kid doesn't have to also live with the guilt of having killed her.

NJCher

(38,087 posts)
13. Good questions
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:40 AM
22 hrs ago

I tried to shoot a gun on a few occasions and it was hard to do. How could a baby do this?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,751 posts)
38. I haven't read the story but I know the U.S. leads the world in toddlers shooting parents (and siblings)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 01:50 PM
10 hrs ago

There have been a bunch of stories of moms getting shot in the back from purse guns left in the back seat of cars.


America! Pew pew!



MagickMuffin

(17,171 posts)
23. From the article
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:35 AM
13 hrs ago


"The firearm was stored in a location where the toddler accessed the firearm, and at some point, in time, while handling that particular weapon, the toddler was able to manipulate the trigger, and it actually struck Mina as she was lying in bed," said Lt. Paul Cervantes with the Fresno Police Department.



However, I find it difficult to believe that the toddler shot his mama. And then the article doesn’t mention the type of gun that was used to kill Mina. But I think most guns are rather heavy, especially for a toddler, unless the toddler had help pulling the trigger.

I think the authorities should have kept boyfriend locked up. He’s the responsible (errr, irresponsible) person here!


getagrip_already

(17,498 posts)
37. A gun like a glock or similar.....
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 01:42 PM
11 hrs ago

Has a very light trigger pull, and they can be set lower if the owner desires.

It should be no lighter than 4 pounds, but there are idiots who set it lighter.

But that weight is deceiving. It is easy for even a 2 year old to pull a trigger when you add the weight of the gun against your finger.

getagrip_already

(17,498 posts)
45. It also likely has an active safety.....
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:55 PM
3 hrs ago

Which requires you to move a lever to disengage it.

Most semi-auto pistols do not. The only safety they have is on the trigger itself and is only meant to keep the gun from firing if dropped or hit.

A simple lever safety would avoid many, many, accidental shootings.



Kaleva

(38,382 posts)
47. For semi autos, not having a round in the chamber would prevent many tragedies
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:30 AM
14 min ago

The so-called Israeli method.

SheltieLover

(59,811 posts)
26. Right & how did a 2 yr old pull the trigger?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:47 PM
11 hrs ago

I suppose the gun might've had a light trigger, but I suspect there is more to the story...

yagotme

(3,918 posts)
27. Yes, something of an odiferous nature in Denmark...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:48 PM
11 hrs ago

Don't believe a 2 yr old can find, pick up, stand up (mother was IN a bed) and manipulate trigger and fire gun. Methinks boyfriend was more of a participant than child. The recoil should have caused SOME injury to the child, I would think.

tazcat

(34 posts)
14. Did they bag boyfriends hands for gsr??? How
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:42 AM
22 hrs ago

many pounds is the trigger pull - can a tot do that? Me thinks this stinks

yagotme

(3,918 posts)
34. Some single action triggers are in ounces.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:59 PM
11 hrs ago

Pulling back the hammer is required, though, which takes more effort. Glocks vary, from 3.5 to something like 11 lbs ("New York" trigger). Fired one with one of those heavy triggers, couldn't hit crap with it. Dry firing showed that the front sight jumped sideways upon release of the striker, so much force having to be applied to the trigger.

maxsolomon

(35,222 posts)
28. There have been several of these stories where the mom had the gun in her purse in the car
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:48 PM
11 hrs ago

or under the seat or in the seat back pocket or something, and the toddler pulls it out and shoots her. Sperm donor nowhere around.

Toddlers are completely capable of shooting a pistol - it happens multiple times a year in this nation of negligent idiots.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,751 posts)
39. You beat me to it. I just posted the same upthread before seeing yours.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 01:54 PM
10 hrs ago

The U.S. leads the world in death by toddler with a gun.

Blue_Tires

(56,230 posts)
44. The really sad part is we see a toddler-kills-parent-or-sibling story like this in America every few weeks
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:20 PM
4 hrs ago

and nobody learns Jack Fucking Shit. Nobody ever changes their behavior or takes precautions... I had a cousin who used to keep an always-loaded .32 revolver in his fucking underwear drawer within easy reach of his toddlers if they ever decided to rummage around... Yeah, he lived in a shitty neighborhood at the time, but I told him some things are not worth the risk...

I'm just thankful that nothing ever happened -- His oldest two girls are now in college and his youngest son is a HS junior....

malaise

(278,461 posts)
19. Hmmmmmmmm
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:03 AM
17 hrs ago

In a statement to Action News, Mina's sister says Sanchez neglected Mina's requests not to keep a gun in the house.


She could and should have ended the relationship to protect herself and the toddler.. No person with an effin gun is even visiting my place for a meal.

Paladin

(28,897 posts)
20. Yeah, this situation stinks in a number of ways.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:21 AM
17 hrs ago

No way in hell should that boyfriend escape some form of punishment.

maxsolomon

(35,222 posts)
25. I'm numb to these stories.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:43 PM
12 hrs ago

Toddlers killing moms, toddlers killing siblings.

There are rarely substantial consequences (other than dead children and adults), and nothing will change. The story will repeat, over and over, as long as Americans are neglectful idiots who love guns.

And Americans will always be neglectful idiots who love guns.

sarisataka

(21,211 posts)
33. I do not know why so many doubt the story
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:57 PM
11 hrs ago

A typical pistol only weighs a few pounds and triggers are not hard to pull. A mattress isn't going to stop a bullet so she could have been hit even if the gun was fired from under the bed.

That said, the boyfriend was the owner and responsible for the gun. In my book that means negligent homicide at the least.

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