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ProfessorPlum

(11,385 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 09:22 AM 16 hrs ago

It makes sense that The Insurance Adjuster comes from a privileged background

prep school, ivy league college, rich influential family, good job, young, athletic, smart.


Most Americans are not taught to stand up for ourselves. We take whatever crumbs the government and corporations choose to drop for us and never stand up and demand what we actually want and need - living wages, healthcare for all, affordable education. We are taught that there is nothing we can do about any of that, because the system is obviously corrupt and just drains us for the value of our labor and throws us away once they have wrung the life out of us.

But this guy comes from a background that had given him every advantage and was doing well in life. He hurt his back in a surfing accident (in Hawaii?) and suddenly found out that UnitedHealthCare was just going to let him suffer in pain for the rest of his life (or at least for the next few decades). This was not what he was used to. This injustice was for other people, not someone like him. He'd been playing the game of life on the easy setting - yes, taking advantage of the opportunities he was given, but what opportunities! - and now suddenly he was facing an injustice that all of his privilege couldn't solve.

For a person like that, who is self-actuated and taught that life should be fair, it makes sense that he took action. He didn't know, like the rest of us, that life in the US is unfair and cruel and the rest of us just put up with it. And so, he didn't.

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It makes sense that The Insurance Adjuster comes from a privileged background (Original Post) ProfessorPlum 16 hrs ago OP
His back issues preceded the surfing accident Prairie Gates 15 hrs ago #1
If he is actually a person of privilege and means... Dennis Donovan 15 hrs ago #2
his employer may be in a state where UHC has a virtual monopoly ProfessorPlum 15 hrs ago #3
He was/is also upset by the non-treatment received by his Mother during her neuropathy episodes. n/t SheilaAnn 15 hrs ago #4
Thompson had no idea his claim to be a living, breathing person would be denied that morning. Omnipresent 15 hrs ago #5
And BeerBarrelPolka 15 hrs ago #6
+1. He had no idea his death would be viewed as an earned benefit by millions dalton99a 15 hrs ago #9
He evidently refused to do nothing and wait for a better world in heaven dalton99a 15 hrs ago #7
DU should not allow this term to be used to describe the alleged murderer of the UHC CEO. Jacson6 15 hrs ago #8
your delicate feelings are noted. thank you for thinking of the poor CEO. ProfessorPlum 15 hrs ago #10
I agree, it is mean spirited Beringia 15 hrs ago #11
...and? Conjuay 14 hrs ago #15
I SO agree with you BeerBarrelPolka 14 hrs ago #19
Nono durablend 13 hrs ago #26
Yes! Where are the language police! clutches pearls... harumph 15 hrs ago #12
Why not? WhiskeyGrinder 15 hrs ago #13
Someone go get the hall monitor dalton99a 15 hrs ago #14
I'm BeerBarrelPolka 14 hrs ago #17
Just a minute orangecrush 12 hrs ago #29
So instead of trying to better the world... Shipwack 14 hrs ago #16
yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Privileged people aren't used to waiting for improvements that never come ProfessorPlum 14 hrs ago #18
You're projecting your fantasies onto him. mathematic 14 hrs ago #20
you are proving my point ProfessorPlum 14 hrs ago #21
"you do not need to grow up rich to think you can stand up for yourself" - maybe, but ProfessorPlum 14 hrs ago #22
"Most people can and do stand up for themselves" - citation definitely needed. Americans as a whole do not ProfessorPlum 14 hrs ago #23
"The biggest lie in politics is that "both parties are the same and nothing ever changes"" - citation DEFINITELY needed ProfessorPlum 14 hrs ago #24
Where does "Insurance Adjuster" come from? DeepWinter 13 hrs ago #25
This orangecrush 13 hrs ago #28
Sums it up orangecrush 13 hrs ago #27

Prairie Gates

(3,413 posts)
1. His back issues preceded the surfing accident
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 09:24 AM
15 hrs ago

That said, The Insurance Adjuster is a boss superhero/villain/hitman name. Kudos.

Dennis Donovan

(26,772 posts)
2. If he is actually a person of privilege and means...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 09:29 AM
15 hrs ago

...why did he have the lowest-rated health insurance company, UHC? He could've afforded much better insurance.

ProfessorPlum

(11,385 posts)
3. his employer may be in a state where UHC has a virtual monopoly
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 09:32 AM
15 hrs ago

like so many states.

Hence, the monopoly money in the backpack.

Also buying a separate insurance policy from your employer's policy is probably super expensive, especially when you have a prior chronic pain condition.

Omnipresent

(6,416 posts)
5. Thompson had no idea his claim to be a living, breathing person would be denied that morning.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 09:45 AM
15 hrs ago

I hope the rest of those CEO’s realize that worshipping money and profits can’t necessarily buy them a well to do, long life.

Conjuay

(2,153 posts)
15. ...and?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:39 AM
14 hrs ago

I can list hundreds of more "mean spirited" things.
It's time to stop 🛑 this "ooh, that's too mean spirited", and deal with the reality - proper behavior has gotten us nowhere.
If you don't mind being eaten alive by oligarchs, proceed along your present path.
I am not going to live my life by someone else's sense of propriety. Not with the bullshit these fascists are trying to pull.

durablend

(8,008 posts)
26. Nono
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:25 AM
13 hrs ago

We need to sit around in a circle, hold hands and sing KUMBAYA. Surely that'll get them to change.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,406 posts)
17. I'm
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:44 AM
14 hrs ago

I'm on your side. I have to sit on my hands and can't type what I want to type. This kind of shit only empowers republicans is all I will say.

Shipwack

(2,332 posts)
16. So instead of trying to better the world...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:42 AM
14 hrs ago

… he threw a tantrum and killed a man.*

He had money, education, free time, and opportunities. He had resources and a safety net that 99% of Americans can’t even dream of. He could have tried to change the system.

But that would have required work and delayed gratification.

So he struck out like a toddler.

What a waste.

*Yes, the CEO was a scumbag who made money by denying people healthcare. Still not an excuse for murder.

ProfessorPlum

(11,385 posts)
18. yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Privileged people aren't used to waiting for improvements that never come
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:44 AM
14 hrs ago

like the rest of us

mathematic

(1,521 posts)
20. You're projecting your fantasies onto him.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:59 AM
14 hrs ago

You clearly haven't read his manifesto, which mentions no personal motivation for his actions. There is no indication he did this to stand up for himself.

He did this to make a name for himself. He did this because he sees himself as uniquely capable of moral clarity (emp added):

No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”


No, you do not need to grow up rich to think you can stand up for yourself. Most people can and do stand up for themselves. The biggest lie in politics is that "both parties are the same and nothing ever changes". If that's something you're teaching then look in the fucking mirror.

Mangione is not a hero and your pathetic revisionism is a disgrace.


ProfessorPlum

(11,385 posts)
21. you are proving my point
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:17 AM
14 hrs ago

I didn't say he was a hero - I said he was self-actuated.

He also noticed that "the American public has allwed them to get away with it" . . . like I said

ProfessorPlum

(11,385 posts)
22. "you do not need to grow up rich to think you can stand up for yourself" - maybe, but
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:18 AM
14 hrs ago

i'm not surprised that this guy comes from a class that is definitely taught to stand up for itself.

ProfessorPlum

(11,385 posts)
23. "Most people can and do stand up for themselves" - citation definitely needed. Americans as a whole do not
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:19 AM
14 hrs ago

especially with regards to politics.

ProfessorPlum

(11,385 posts)
24. "The biggest lie in politics is that "both parties are the same and nothing ever changes"" - citation DEFINITELY needed
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:22 AM
14 hrs ago

about things changing.

Even the ACA, the biggest healthcare change in my lifetime, was basically a gift and giveaway to big insurance, with a few (well received) protections and expansion of Medicaid.

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