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MineralMan

(147,837 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:56 AM 14 hrs ago

Satire: Maybe We're Going to Need A List



Based on the varying opinions here on DU, I think we're going to need a list soon of who is and is not a valid "Shoot on Sight" target. There seems to be some controversy on that subject, and it's alarming.

So, if someone would come up with a list of those people whom it's OK to kill at any time, that would clarify things considerably. I wouldn't be competent to make such a list, though. I have a very strong bias against killing people, so I'm disqualified from such list-making.

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Satire: Maybe We're Going to Need A List (Original Post) MineralMan 14 hrs ago OP
I voted not to hide. Dennis Donovan 14 hrs ago #1
Same here, especially with the sarcasm tag, though it actually makes a very important point about tunnel vision. JohnSJ 14 hrs ago #3
+1. Wasn't alert worthy to start with. Silent Type 14 hrs ago #6
Thank you NoRethugFriends 9 hrs ago #27
Nazis and zombies. Iggo 14 hrs ago #2
This will require some careful thought! Ocelot II 14 hrs ago #4
It all seems so complicated. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #5
Works for me. Ocelot II 14 hrs ago #7
Exactly. Howsabout the people who accept paychecks signed by these targets? Silent Type 13 hrs ago #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Fords Crackpipe 12 hrs ago #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Fords Crackpipe 12 hrs ago #10
I suggested it was wrong... lame54 12 hrs ago #11
Yes. I did the same and had a similar MineralMan 12 hrs ago #12
Shocked, I say. Shocked!! nt LAS14 11 hrs ago #19
More sarc GusBob 12 hrs ago #13
I agree that there should be a static rule that NO ONE is on the "valid to shoot" list...however... Maeve 11 hrs ago #14
Yes. The less black and white I see here the happier I'll be. nt LAS14 11 hrs ago #18
Romans 12:17-19 Beringia 11 hrs ago #15
There are similar writings in other scriptures from other places. MineralMan 9 hrs ago #29
Why should anyone care what the bible says? NoRethugFriends 9 hrs ago #30
It is valuable to me, as a teaching Beringia 7 hrs ago #43
Yeah, but what does Gandalf have to say about it? Iggo 6 hrs ago #45
Yes, it would be helpful mcar 11 hrs ago #16
The problem with your satire is.... LAS14 11 hrs ago #17
I disagree. For me, it holds everywhere. MineralMan 10 hrs ago #20
How is this relevant? LAS14 10 hrs ago #21
Assad is not in Syria because his behavior was morally abhorent. MineralMan 9 hrs ago #23
I suspect that the revolutionaries killed a pretty large number of soldiers. nt LAS14 9 hrs ago #31
No doubt they did. MineralMan 9 hrs ago #32
So you think Assad should have remained in power? LAS14 8 hrs ago #33
I said nothing of the sort. MineralMan 8 hrs ago #37
You certainly implied that the revolutionaries should not have killed Syrian soldiers. nt LAS14 8 hrs ago #38
I have zero sway over revolutionaries. MineralMan 7 hrs ago #40
I don't understand this at all, but I'm willing to let it drop here. nt LAS14 7 hrs ago #41
LOL! MineralMan 5 hrs ago #47
"Assad is no longer in Syria, but is still alive. So my case is made, no?" LAS14 8 hrs ago #39
I believe you have said you served in the military? Just_Vote_Dem 7 hrs ago #44
Nope. MineralMan 5 hrs ago #46
How about a list edhopper 10 hrs ago #22
My satire; My choice. MineralMan 9 hrs ago #26
I think edhopper 9 hrs ago #28
You are a prophet sarisataka 9 hrs ago #24
Oh, Crap! MineralMan 9 hrs ago #25
Those who can't recognize satire should be on the list Kaleva 8 hrs ago #34
Well, in this case, MineralMan 8 hrs ago #35
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan 8 hrs ago #36
In a runaway trolley situation I'll usually aim for the billionaire. hunter 7 hrs ago #42

JohnSJ

(96,757 posts)
3. Same here, especially with the sarcasm tag, though it actually makes a very important point about tunnel vision.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:07 AM
14 hrs ago

Ocelot II

(121,224 posts)
4. This will require some careful thought!
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:12 AM
14 hrs ago

First of all, is shooting limited only to CEOs, or are other officers/directors on the list? Does their corporation have to be publicly traded, or are officials or majority shareholders of privately-held corporations fair game, too? Is there a limit to the size of the corporation? Does it have to be a corporation that is universally hated or do only a majority of Americans have to hate it? What if the corporation or the targeted human donates generously to charities? How well-compensated does the target have to be in order to make the list, or is that important? Can we shoot members of their families, too, since they also profit from the corporation's evil activities? If so, are we limited to spouses, or are children OK? Minor children, too; maybe parents or siblings, if the targeted person supports them? If family members are to be included, wouldn't it be more efficient just to bomb or set fire to their homes?

Damn, that slope sure is slippery...

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lame54

(37,041 posts)
11. I suggested it was wrong...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:44 PM
12 hrs ago

To shoot someone in the back
I got a lot of push back on that
No emoji's involved

MineralMan

(147,837 posts)
12. Yes. I did the same and had a similar
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:46 PM
12 hrs ago

reaction from some. And that led to my sarcastic post. I'm troubled by the reaction I've seen regarding this whole thing. Very troubled.

GusBob

(7,569 posts)
13. More sarc
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:49 PM
12 hrs ago

The kid read a book about insurance companies that grated his cheese

Should the family of the victim kill the author?

/sarc/

Maeve

(43,006 posts)
14. I agree that there should be a static rule that NO ONE is on the "valid to shoot" list...however...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 01:39 PM
11 hrs ago

There could easily be a list of "understandable if shot" (most of whom seem to be becoming part of the next mis-administration.)

Understanding does not mean approval, it simply means that, being liberals, we can see other people's POVs and realize why some might choose violence.

Beringia

(4,618 posts)
15. Romans 12:17-19
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 01:57 PM
11 hrs ago


Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord.

I don't think the Luigi Mangione followed any peaceful philosophers on how to walk through life

MineralMan

(147,837 posts)
29. There are similar writings in other scriptures from other places.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:56 PM
9 hrs ago

Recognizing the value of not seeking revenge appears to be fairly common.

Beringia

(4,618 posts)
43. It is valuable to me, as a teaching
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:07 PM
7 hrs ago

Just as other religious and spiritual teachings, Gandhi, buddhists. My Godmother is Dorothy Day and my father was a kind of radical catholic, so it means something to me

LAS14

(14,757 posts)
17. The problem with your satire is....
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:17 PM
11 hrs ago

... is that the implication is that this applies at all times and in all places. If we confine ourselves to the U.S., which is still, although some may disagree, a country ruled by laws, then your satire holds.

But what about Syria of a month ago. I'd be happy to put Assad and his henchmen at the top of it.

MineralMan

(147,837 posts)
20. I disagree. For me, it holds everywhere.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:37 PM
10 hrs ago

I do not see any political or economic situation where any individual can make the decision to take another person's life. Period. I would extend it beyond that, to, eliminate capital punishment as well.

My satire is based on my personal ethics, and those alone. Yours might differ.

As for Assad, he is now out of the picture in Syria. That has the same effect, really.

LAS14

(14,757 posts)
21. How is this relevant?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:22 PM
10 hrs ago

"As for Assad, he is now out of the picture in Syria. That has the same effect, really."

How is this relevant as a response to my observation that things that are morally abhorent in a society governed by laws would not be abhorent in a society not goverened by laws??? Like Syria a month ago? It's irrelevant what Syria is like now.

MineralMan

(147,837 posts)
23. Assad is not in Syria because his behavior was morally abhorent.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:44 PM
9 hrs ago

He fled because he no longer was able to continue that behavior without consequences.

What I wrote is relevant. Syria is what it is like now, at least temporarily, because the people rejected Assad's behavior at long last. It remains to be seen what will replace Assad, though.

LAS14

(14,757 posts)
33. So you think Assad should have remained in power?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 04:42 PM
8 hrs ago

"I do not see any political or economic situation where any individual can make the decision to take another person's life. Period."

MineralMan

(147,837 posts)
37. I said nothing of the sort.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:00 PM
8 hrs ago

Assad is no longer in Syria, but is still alive. So my case is made, no?

MineralMan

(147,837 posts)
40. I have zero sway over revolutionaries.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:40 PM
7 hrs ago

Obviously. That is not my topic at all. I could write about that, but didn't. It's irrelevant to this thread.

LAS14

(14,757 posts)
39. "Assad is no longer in Syria, but is still alive. So my case is made, no?"
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:34 PM
8 hrs ago

Your case is made if people in power count, but foot soldiers don't.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,189 posts)
44. I believe you have said you served in the military?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:31 PM
7 hrs ago

Sorry if I'm wrong on that. But if you did, did you ever think about being a conscientious objector?

edhopper

(34,995 posts)
22. How about a list
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:30 PM
10 hrs ago

Of who we don't give a fuck about if they get shot!

Because that's what is really happening.

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