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tenderfoot

(8,866 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:14 PM 10 hrs ago

I cannot help but notice that Democratic reps are discussing Luigi rather than addressing overpriced Health Insurance

Gov. Shapiro, Fetterman, I'm sure many more.

Has everyone in DC been assimilated?

If so, we are f***ed like we've never been before.

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I cannot help but notice that Democratic reps are discussing Luigi rather than addressing overpriced Health Insurance (Original Post) tenderfoot 10 hrs ago OP
I've seen both, including LOTS of discussions about cost and nature of insurance. elleng 10 hrs ago #1
I think saying that cold-blooded murder is bad is an OK thing mcar 10 hrs ago #2
Anything to avoid discussing root causes tenderfoot 10 hrs ago #5
I'd also like to add that the response is similar to school shootings. Go off on the perp. Do nothing about the guns. tenderfoot 10 hrs ago #7
That has never happened here on DU mcar 9 hrs ago #17
I'm not talking about here on DU. I'm talking about reps in DC. tenderfoot 9 hrs ago #18
Our DC reps always talk about gun law reform after a shooting mcar 9 hrs ago #20
I don't hear them addressing the health insurance industry. tenderfoot 5 hrs ago #23
You don't hear it from too many, that's true mcar 5 hrs ago #24
The industry owns all stripes of politicians dalton99a 10 hrs ago #3
What can they do. They are out of power to get anything done. We lost bigtime. beaglelover 10 hrs ago #4
Your about to lose more than you ever imagined tenderfoot 10 hrs ago #6
Elections have consequences. It's a shame many in this country are so ignorant. beaglelover 9 hrs ago #13
Oh, really?..To whom are you directing your post? whathehell 4 hrs ago #28
Do what MAGA does and dog the other side with this issue uponit7771 5 hrs ago #25
That Borg picture is moniss 10 hrs ago #8
I think it's wise of them to keep the two issues separated right now Lulu KC 10 hrs ago #9
The dem reps are increasingly disappointing... lame54 10 hrs ago #10
Honestly, for the first time, I'm almost Bettie 9 hrs ago #12
They get tons of super PAC money from Bettie 9 hrs ago #11
Im unaware of any DUer having a sit down with an elected rep about health care. Kaleva 9 hrs ago #14
I think the OP meant statements in the media etc leftstreet 9 hrs ago #15
They won't if people don't pressure them to Kaleva 8 hrs ago #22
Fuck that. I support Dems. flip a shitload of red districts if you want to improve healthcare thebigidea 9 hrs ago #16
They can stop excepting money from them tenderfoot 9 hrs ago #19
When the ACA was passed there was a supermajority in the Senate and large dem majority in the house Trenzalore 9 hrs ago #21
Actually the aca was passed through reconciliation (50 plus 1 votes) questionseverything 5 hrs ago #26
I don't condone violence Trenzalore 4 hrs ago #36
Just pointing out your post#21 is incorrect questionseverything 3 hrs ago #37
Wasn't the intent of the "Affordable Care Act" to make it affordable? MichMan 4 hrs ago #27
Yeah, that was the goal when they intentionally... Think. Again. 4 hrs ago #29
The murdering companies are very generous with campaign donations. onecaliberal 4 hrs ago #30
It's all about maintaining and preserving the System Picaro 4 hrs ago #31
Sort of like how the entire country was hotly debating Kaepernick and the anthem Blue_Tires 4 hrs ago #32
Federal Regulation of Health Care Is Bipartisan. DJ Synikus Makisimus 4 hrs ago #33
That's because ForgedCrank 4 hrs ago #34
Nailed it malaise 4 hrs ago #35

mcar

(43,589 posts)
2. I think saying that cold-blooded murder is bad is an OK thing
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:20 PM
10 hrs ago

I hardly see where that means assimilation.

Seems to me being glad about said murder is a sign of assimilation.

tenderfoot

(8,866 posts)
7. I'd also like to add that the response is similar to school shootings. Go off on the perp. Do nothing about the guns.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:27 PM
10 hrs ago

Here nothing will be done about the health insurance industry or guns.

mcar

(43,589 posts)
17. That has never happened here on DU
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:20 PM
9 hrs ago

except for a small # of DUers in the gungeon. Any time there is a school shooting, here we discuss the need to do something about guns. Among the right, it's always only about the "lone wolf" who played video games or was disturbed.

mcar

(43,589 posts)
20. Our DC reps always talk about gun law reform after a shooting
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:23 PM
9 hrs ago

then the Rs start screaming about the 2nd Amendment, blah, blah.

tenderfoot

(8,866 posts)
23. I don't hear them addressing the health insurance industry.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:22 PM
5 hrs ago

I wonder if the money they get from them is a reason.

mcar

(43,589 posts)
24. You don't hear it from too many, that's true
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:24 PM
5 hrs ago

But, IMO, they'd be risking a lot of criticism if they brought it up now, after this murder. It would be as if they were implying that the shooting was justified.

dalton99a

(84,663 posts)
3. The industry owns all stripes of politicians
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:21 PM
10 hrs ago

who sing the same melody "We have the greatest healthcare system in the world"





Lulu KC

(4,691 posts)
9. I think it's wise of them to keep the two issues separated right now
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:33 PM
10 hrs ago

With few exceptions, they have worn their larynxes out for years talking about it and no one has listened. To jump on that right now would make "Dems think Shooting Someone in the Back is Okay" become the headline.

There's a great clip of Elizabeth Warren talking to Witty (Thompson's boss at UHC) that someone posted on DU just this morning.

lame54

(37,041 posts)
10. The dem reps are increasingly disappointing...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:35 PM
10 hrs ago

When the national nightmare begins in 40 days there will be no one fighting for us

They still think capitulation will buy them goodwill from the thugs

It only empowers them

Such an obvious lesson, with endless examples, that's never learned

Bettie

(17,272 posts)
12. Honestly, for the first time, I'm almost
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:44 PM
9 hrs ago

okay with all my reps being Republicans, because I don't have to have my hopes for decency dashed when they do utterly capitulate.

Bettie

(17,272 posts)
11. They get tons of super PAC money from
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:41 PM
9 hrs ago

the industry.

We, you know, the people whose care is denied by those entities, don't have super PACs to donate tons of cash to them....so, they will vote for the money over the people.

There are a few exceptions, but not as many as you'd think.

Kaleva

(38,381 posts)
14. Im unaware of any DUer having a sit down with an elected rep about health care.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:51 PM
9 hrs ago

There may have been some who then posted the details of the conversation but I haven't seen any .

thebigidea

(13,286 posts)
16. Fuck that. I support Dems. flip a shitload of red districts if you want to improve healthcare
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:16 PM
9 hrs ago

They can't do jack shit otherwise

Trenzalore

(2,522 posts)
21. When the ACA was passed there was a supermajority in the Senate and large dem majority in the house
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:26 PM
9 hrs ago

And that was the best they could do

questionseverything

(10,242 posts)
26. Actually the aca was passed through reconciliation (50 plus 1 votes)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:31 PM
5 hrs ago

So we could of easily included a public option…. The ptb just didn’t

MichMan

(13,391 posts)
27. Wasn't the intent of the "Affordable Care Act" to make it affordable?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:41 PM
4 hrs ago

Here we are 14 years later and it is now unaffordable.
 
At the time, we were told everyone would be able to afford health insurance, and with so many healthy customers added, that the costs of insurance for everyone would go down by a couple thousand dollars a year. What happened?

Think. Again.

(18,574 posts)
29. Yeah, that was the goal when they intentionally...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:42 PM
4 hrs ago

...spun the social media chatter to some weird outrage over this one particular murder (as if murders don't happen every day).

onecaliberal

(36,203 posts)
30. The murdering companies are very generous with campaign donations.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:44 PM
4 hrs ago

I won’t be able to afford any donations.

Picaro

(1,834 posts)
31. It's all about maintaining and preserving the System
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:53 PM
4 hrs ago

Our system is protected by both parties.

In spite of massive grass roots funding the big checks still come from the big players.

These big players own the media including social media.

Until we get money out of politics we’re screwed.

And I don’t think we ever will get money out of politics.

Blue_Tires

(56,230 posts)
32. Sort of like how the entire country was hotly debating Kaepernick and the anthem
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:02 PM
4 hrs ago

instead of discussing **WHY** he was protesting in the first place... (For those who forgot, he was protesting unarmed black folks minding their own business getting killed by trigger-happy police and white vigilantes, and then seeing those killers walk in court)...

Or like how the media could spend weeks debating the merits of TFG's accusations that Haitian immigrants were eating pets or Venezuelan gangs had completely commandeered the City of Aurora, Colorado instead of discussing the fact that he's of unsound mind and belongs in a nursing home or the fact that Vance NOT ONLY OPENLY SAID IT WAS A LIE, BUT ALSO THAT IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY FOR HIM TO TELL BLATANT LIES IF IT MAKES A POLITICAL POINT(!)

And yes, this "steering" of the narrative is totally intentional.

33. Federal Regulation of Health Care Is Bipartisan.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:07 PM
4 hrs ago

Elected officials from all two parties helped create the system we have. You may have voted for some of them. Just because they say they're "blue" doesn't mean they're on your side. Manchin and Sinema are only the most obvious examples.

ForgedCrank

(2,330 posts)
34. That's because
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:16 PM
4 hrs ago

it's easier that fessing up.
Politicians are partly to blame for having created this disaster.

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