I don't know what to say anymore

[angrychair]

A CNN poll finds people are hopeful for Trump's administration and think the transition is going great.
Time magazine named him person of the year.

Seems like everyone is rolling over and surrendering to TSF before he even takes office.

I feel like I'm going crazy. I don't know how to process all this. It makes no sense. You could tell me the sky is purple and the dirt is orange and I would have an easier believing that than what is happening. Is this the upside down? I hope I wake up staring at a wall and drooling because that would still be better this this insanity being real life.

[Mike 03]

1. I'm here too. Just had this discussion with my mother.

Don't really have anything intelligent to add that wouldn't be misinterpreted as "defeatist."

[FarPoint]

19. We know he is going to cause serious damage and despair...

Problem is....way too many still can't see who and what he is yet..... So, we all must suffer to reach the common knowledge phase.... Our suffering is worse because we already know whats coming....

[Ocelot II]

2. Hitler was named Person of the Year, too. It's not necessarily a compliment.

The shit will hit the fan soon enough. He's getting his honeymoon early, but his soon-to-be-appointed collection of grifters, cranks, sex pests, nepo babies, Russian agents and misfit toys will start stepping on rakes once they actually have to do something. I'm just sitting back and waiting for the opportunity to say, I told you so. I am confident that chance will come.

[BattleRow]

17. Methane gaslighting when shit hits the fan..

[jimfields33]

32. What annoys me most is that most think he's president already due to the media only concentrating on him.

I wish they’d only concentrate on president Biden until January 20th. That’s what an honest media would focus on.

[skydive forever]

59. Honest media, now that's funny

[yellow dahlia]

42. Won't be long before we have lots of opportunities to say "We told you so".

[bdamomma]

44. Great post

Ocelot II. I hope they eat their own.

[senseandsensibility]

3. Just to put this into perspective

CNN is pushing this poll of course but when I tuned in they had a chyron that pointed out that this number (55%) is lower than Presidents elect Bush, Obama, and Biden had at this point. So it's no big deal and not particularly significant, although many will push it as though it were.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

11. his first term, Trump's approval quickly plummeted and stayed dirt bottom for three plus years

[Fiendish Thingy]

4. Crossword puzzles, long walks, kitten videos.

From now until January 20, there is no reason to torture yourself with daily traumatization from the media.

Saturating yourself with so many “what if’s” doesn’t help prepare you for what’s coming, it just leads to burn out and stress.

Taking a break from the endless media speculation is not denial, or a betrayal of your principles or of any person or group- it’s self care and self preservation.

After January 20, we will know “what is”, and will be tanned, rested, and ready to raise our voices in opposition.

[Tom Dyer]

46. The Saturday NYT crossword

will erase everything else from your mind.

[Iris]

5. You have to remember the average person isn't going to be immersed in politics the way many of us here are

I just read in a NYT article that a 31 year old woman believes our food will be healthier in 4 years because Trump will "get rid of all the chemicals"

A waitress at IHOP told my mother the day after the election that she was excited because now "the war will be over." Not sure which war but somehow she believes Trump can just stop it.

I could go on ....

[Jit423]

16. No, but they sure are immersed in willful ignorance and bigotry.

[Iris]

23. Yep

[byronius]

22. I have met a lot of American Idiots.

Unsurprised.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. On the bright side, if there is one

THey're handing responsibility to someone who's the oldest President ever to take office, who fouls up everything he touches, at a time when markets and the economy are peaking, when inflation is making a comeback. Everything will be fouled up very soon. Wars, depression, chaos, civil strife ... it's all in the pipeline. There's only one person to blame. No one else is allowed to say anything.

[not fooled]

25. All true, but being the world's greatest con man

he will be able to con a lot of people into believing it's someone else's fault.

Plus, remember he killed hundreds of thousands if not more than a million by incompetently dealing with COVID and people put him back in the White House.

Personally, I don't get it but there's lots of stupid, willfully ignorant, propagandized and careless people to con.

[CousinIT]

7. A CNN poll isn't "most americans". It's propaganda. n/t

[paleotn]

14. Bingo. Folks, stop being manipulated.

[Self Esteem]

26. Just like all the polls that showed Trump leading were fake, right?

Harris was going to win in a romp!

I think you people woefully underestimate how okay Americans are with Trump.

Just as long as he makes things cheaper!

[Justice matters.]

45. After his stupid 25% tariffs, his bigotic deportations and his ditching of the ACA...

the "as long as he makes things cheaper" won't be long lived...

Any one of these three will get prices of things skyrocket!

[0rganism]

74. Time to print up some "I did this" Trump edition stickers to place strategically in grocery stores...

I hope someone's got a "price of eggs" index ready to go. Maybe DU could publish a collection of tracking consumer goods costs daily.

[angrychair]

38. Doesn't matter

Headlines matter. Talking points matter. Perception matters
People have proven that details don't matter.
Most Americans have a less than 6th grade reading level and I recently read an article that illiteracy is on the rise.

Starting to really believe TSF really could order people slaughtered in the streets and most Americans wouldn't care as long as eggs were a little cheaper and gas was under $3.

[ThePartyThatListens]

8. You guys are going to have to learn to relax

Or you'll blow a gasket.

He's going to be the President.

Prepare yourself.

[paleotn]

15. Ready to roll. Been here before.

And I realize that much of what he spews is just that, spew. It will never be enacted. Never become policy. So take a chill pill, folks, and don't let the fucking bastards manipulate you or get you down.

[Blue_Tires]

34. "You guys?"

Did you get lost?

[Sugarcoated]

70. Ikr?

A couple of cranky folks here tonight. Jerky people get muted.

[Blue_Tires]

71. I'm pretty sure he's playing an angle here

I've alerted on him

[ForgedCrank]

9. It's all

about perspective.
I think most people don't consider their number one priority to be defeating Trump. Their priority wish is for the country to do well overall. I consider myself one of those people. I'll be pleased if the conditions in America improve, even if it's under Trump's term. I'm not picky about who gets it done.
I understand that we all know that probably won't be the case 4 years from now, but results do tell the story, not predictions. And I want things to improve, even if I have to give a nod to someone like Donald Trump. I can say that because i'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen, but that's my perspective. America is my priority, not party. and I believe most people see it that way as well.

[Keepthesoulalive]

24. No they didn't

Most don’t care about this country or they would have voted for Harris.
He has screwed up everything he touches, he has no morals. He tried to overthrow the government. He stole state secrets and he let thousands die of covid because of his lies. I want him in jail not in the Oval Office.

[Blue_Tires]

30. Do you honestly believe Donnie wants to "improve" things?

You know what? Just don't answer.

[ForgedCrank]

43. Do you

people even read my entire posts before you knee starts jerking?
Do us a favor, quote the part where I said anything even remotely resembling that.

[Sugarcoated]

62. Who are "you people"?

[ForgedCrank]

63. I'm not

going to compile a list for you. Read the passive-aggressive and unwarranted attacks yourself. They are all available for you to read.
But in a general sense, "you people" in this context are the ones who respond to imaginary things I've never said. In fact, you are on the verge of doing it right now, desperately searching for a hidden meaning to be offended by. I re-read my post and it seems it would be pretty clear to anyone who knows how to follow a general conversation. If you aren't one of those people, then you can ignore the post. Pretty simple stuff.

[Sugarcoated]

64. Lol, okay

[ForgedCrank]

65. LOL! Ok

[Sugarcoated]

67. Ignored

[ForgedCrank]

68. Finally

[William Seger]

10. I think it's the Final Phase of gaslighting -- we've all gone nuts

[ananda]

12. This whole mess is getting crazy and surreal.

!@#$%

[paleotn]

13. Same in 2016. Hasn't bitten them on the ass yet. Just wait.

It will. Secondly, a majority of people? You just said people. I can probably find some people who would be hopeful about a return of Atilla the Hun.

And why are you watching CNN anyway? Far better sources than that swill.

[angrychair]

36. Not watching CNN

In fact I haven't watched any news of any kind since the day before the election. It was a story I saw on BlueSky

[Kablooie]

18. He hasn't done anything yet. Everything is just words.

Just wait until he starts actually doing something.
That's when they see what they have done.

[DeeDeeNY]

20. The Emperor Has No Clothes

That story is the closest analogy I can think of to what is happening.

[rampartd]

21. michael lewis explins igt all

including trump's appeal, his management style, his culgt, musk, sam bankman frkied, and why we are experiencing this disaster.

"they just don't care."

&t=55s

on edit, that is not the video i thought i was loading, but this one is shorter than the "economist" podcast and says about the same thing.woth a beat.

[YoshidaYui]

27. Just wait..

Jusr wait till he declares himself King

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

37. and High Priest.

[bronxiteforever]

28. The GOP has all the branches of government

Right now all the pressure and power is on them. The majority of voters chose this.

Our party has to figure a way forward in a world where Trump starts to fade. He is Donald the Lame Duck and the clock will be running soon. Our system makes Presidents that are in second terms weaker. Threats and the ability to maintain a coalition decay in a second term.

[Blue_Tires]

29. Neither do I....

Nothing Biden and Harris did was ever good enough to get votes... Nothing Donnie, JD and Elmer did was ever **BAD** enough to lose votes -- If anything, the rampant lawlessness, disinfo, dishonesty, white supremacy and batshit insanity only seemed to INCREASE their support from the public...

It's surreal. I was telling my best friend today that I want to just scream because I do not know what the "rules" of elections are supposed to be anymore, or what people want in their candidates, and nobody seems to care that the entire ship has capsized.

[surfered]

31. You are not crazy.

[stillcool]

33. Nothing has changed...

in the media world for a very long time. Nothing. Opinions, suppositions, fears of some non-existent future event, so and so that knows of someone close to someone, saying something of some other so and so, and always Trump saying something, doing nothing.

[Irish_Dem]

35. We went to sleep and woke up in a very dark dystopian novel.

We see that in this new world good is evil, and evil is good.
And people we believed were truly good, flip into evil right in front of our eyes.

[yellow dahlia]

39. Yes! I rant all day.

It's bizarro world. It's upside down world.

[Karasu]

40. The transition is goiing great?! Anyone who thinks that is either paying no attention at all or is simply too fucking

stupid to have a valid opinion on the matter. Can you link to the poll?

This country might just be too stupid to exist much longer.

[bdamomma]

41. Hopeful?????

or hopeless and hardship for us. While the felon is partying at Mar A Lago with Victor Orban and Michael Flynn, which was just on Joy Reid. They are partying away. They got their useful idiot. Sickening.

[Xipe Totec]

47. Poison of the year. There's a typo somewhere. nt

[La Coliniere]

48. So many of us are having the same feelings and thoughts.

The felon and his cult broadcast loud and clear what their fascist intentions were and a small majority of voters said “hell yes!” and another third of the voting population said “we don’t care”. That is very hard to process. I’m hoping that MAGA overreach will backfire and wake up many of the non-voters and create remorse in many of the felon’s supporters, causing a paradigm shift that will initiate the beginning of the felon and his MAGA movement’s fall. If this happens, it must be before their most nefarious and dangerous plans can come to fruition. It’s my only hope. The hardest thing for me to understand and come to terms with is how all of this has come to pass after the January 6th insurrection, when the felon could have been put to rest, politically speaking. Fuck Garland for his stalling and the Republican Senators who refused to impeach him, they bare the responsibility for this moment in our history.

[Upthevibe]

49. angrychair..................

I'm at such a complete loss right now.........

[Joinfortmill]

50. Me too. F*cking nuts.

[cpamomfromtexas]

51. Gag a maggot

[mikewv]

52. Agree the world is currently "upside down" nm

nm

[aggiesal]

53. Anyone that tells me that Pendejo45 was a great or is going to be a great pResident ...

I just say, you voted for someone that was found liable to Sexual Assault and guilt of 34 felonies.

Then turn around and walk away.

[Meowmee]

54. I hear you

I have a lot to say but I am too tired at the moment.. suffice it to say that the media and others are kissing the ring of the fascist and as distressing as it is for those of us who understand what is happening it is to be expected when fascism takes over. The media, for the most part, is largely responsible for him ever getting power in the first place.

[JohnSJ]

55. What did people think would happen? This election was an existential one, and life as we know it will never

be the same.

[choie]

56. Couldn't have said it any better angrychair

N/t

[BWdem4life]

57. Some skies are purple and some dirt is orange.

Just throwing that out there for no particular reason

[angrychair]

73. Touche

I stand corrected

[Crunchy Frog]

58. Doesn't surprise me. I expect that's why a lot of them voted for him.

They will likely get a strong dose of reality soon enough.

[Orrex]

60. Maybe he'll just fucking die already.

[mcar]

61. I abhor the normalizing and find it terrifying

TBH, though, Time did name Hitler man of the year.

[AKwannabe]

66. I will NEVER

Roll over for that fucker!

Never!

Can’t say here what I want to do…

[Figarosmom]

69. They are all protecting themselves just kike

Joe and Mika did. They are also giving tacit permission for tags agenda rather they approve of it or not.

I'll admit I don't like the way this is going. So far I'm in a holding pattern. Watching and waiting.

[wendyb-NC]

72. I absolutely agree

It's nuts, to the point of absurdity. That whole idea, that people are hopeful, is terrifying. What's hopeful about anyone he's picked to head the agencies of government?

No angrychair, you are not crazy. You are seeing reality, for what it is. Nope, don't roll over, don't let anyone say you are the issue. You are not. That transition is farcical. It's a train wreck.

Good grief that CNN poll is a joke. I've sworn off most news and polls.