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In It to Win It

(9,704 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:26 PM 5 hrs ago

Why do people think Republicans are better for the economy?

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Throughout the 2024 election, polls showed voters believed President-elect Donald Trump would be better for the economy than President Joe Biden or Vice President Kamala Harris. That sentiment often repeats in many election cycles because Americans tend to think Republicans are better at handling the economy than Democrats. In 2012, for example, polls showed that voters trusted Mitt Romney more on the economy than Barack Obama.

There are a lot of reasons why voters would think this. Republicans have a long history of branding themselves as the pro-business party that will cut taxes and eliminate red tape. Meanwhile, Democrats run on strengthening regulations, and even though those can be popular proposals (like, say, raising the minimum wage), voters get concerned that those policies will hinder business.

But there’s a disconnect between how voters feel about Republicans’ management of the economy and the historical record. Since World War II, there’s been a consistent pattern of the economy faring better under Democratic presidents than Republican ones. More jobs have been created under Democrats, for example, who also saw higher rates of GDP growth. And economic downturns tend to happen under Republicans: Ten of the last 11 recessions started under a Republican administration.

What do the numbers say?

First things first: The economy has expanded more under Democrats than Republicans. Since 1945, Democratic presidents oversaw, on average, 4.1 percent annual GDP growth, whereas Republican administrations had an average GDP growth rate of 2.5 percent, according to CFRA Research, an investment research firm.
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Why do people think Republicans are better for the economy? (Original Post) In It to Win It 5 hrs ago OP
Anybody who actually looked at the numbers could see Dems were wholly superior on the economy Blue_Tires 5 hrs ago #1
People think we're "tax and spend" Democrats wryter2000 5 hrs ago #2
Exactly! And "fiscal conservatives" have cut taxes and spent. surfered 4 hrs ago #7
You mean, Trump's tax cuts added $7.8 TRILLION to the debt.... "with a T" Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #13
Yes, correct $ 7.8 Trillion. surfered 3 hrs ago #18
What else should they do with the revenue? The Wizard 4 hrs ago #9
I have heard that for years from my republican family members, wryter2000. Diamond_Dog 4 hrs ago #10
because that is what their dittomasters tell them Skittles 4 hrs ago #3
Thanks. elleng 4 hrs ago #4
Adam Smith warned about them in his book Wealth of Nations. multigraincracker 4 hrs ago #5
Comes down to mass stupidity. nt yaesu 4 hrs ago #6
Because that's what grandpa told them Iris 4 hrs ago #8
Propaganda. ForgedCrank 4 hrs ago #11
When we Democrats are in office, we tend to talk about everything BUT the economy... PeaceWave 4 hrs ago #12
Because of Republican propaganda. W_HAMILTON 3 hrs ago #14
The media repeats ad nauseam they are Trenzalore 3 hrs ago #15
For some because right wing media tells them that and they believe it Meowmee 3 hrs ago #16
They convinced a percentage of people you're supposed to run the country Passages 3 hrs ago #17
Because Republicans chase wealth more than Democrats. haele 2 hrs ago #19

wryter2000

(47,551 posts)
2. People think we're "tax and spend" Democrats
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:29 PM
5 hrs ago

All we know how to do is tax hard working people and "waste" the money on dark-colored people who don't want to work.

surfered

(3,500 posts)
7. Exactly! And "fiscal conservatives" have cut taxes and spent.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:43 PM
4 hrs ago

Trump’s tax cuts added $7.8 billion to the debt

surfered

(3,500 posts)
18. Yes, correct $ 7.8 Trillion.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 09:12 PM
3 hrs ago

Which means the amount he added to the debt represented about 25% of the total debt outstanding on the day he left office.

The Wizard

(12,909 posts)
9. What else should they do with the revenue?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:58 PM
4 hrs ago

I prefer tax and spend over the Trump policy of borrow and embezzle.
The corporate media has been spreading the myth of Republicans are better for the economy.
I remember Dick Armey and Phil Gramm, both with PhDs in economics, predicting Clinton's budget would cause a depression.

elleng

(136,588 posts)
4. Thanks.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:39 PM
4 hrs ago

Effect on economy and businesses of MONOPOLY MUST be considered, but rarely is, by 'man on the street,' I suspect.

T Roosevelt knew, tho.

Monopoly power is the ability to charge supracompetitive prices, whereas abuse of monopoly power is the use of that ability.

Section 2 of the Sherman Act makes it unlawful for any person to "monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations

multigraincracker

(34,202 posts)
5. Adam Smith warned about them in his book Wealth of Nations.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:42 PM
4 hrs ago

And he was the Father of Capitalism. That was back in 1776.

PeaceWave

(1,013 posts)
12. When we Democrats are in office, we tend to talk about everything BUT the economy...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:22 PM
4 hrs ago

Yes, the social aspects of our agenda are undeniably important. And, these things are important to talk about and address. However, the vast majority of voters cast their ballots based on how heavy or light their pocketbook feels in the months leading up to an election. Until we understand this simple notion, we will be ceding the "better for the economy" high ground to Republicans.

Trenzalore

(2,522 posts)
15. The media repeats ad nauseam they are
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:41 PM
3 hrs ago

George Bush 1st recession. Bill Clinton fixes it
George Bush 2nd Global economic collapse, Barack Obama fixes it
Trump unemployment at highs during pandemic global shutdown, Biden fixes it

If we have another election I guarantee in 2027 there will be some sort of global economic crisis that a Democrat has to clean up.

Meowmee

(5,892 posts)
16. For some because right wing media tells them that and they believe it
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:45 PM
3 hrs ago

It usually seems that the economy tanks from some disaster when R are in charge and somehow they blame it on d and their voters believe it.

Passages

(1,311 posts)
17. They convinced a percentage of people you're supposed to run the country
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:46 PM
3 hrs ago

like you do a household....and nothing could be further from the truth.

Budgets, and spending all used to frighten people who see our debt as similar to a credit card debt.


haele

(13,602 posts)
19. Because Republicans chase wealth more than Democrats.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 09:37 PM
2 hrs ago

A "Good Businessman" knows how to become rich or at least comfortably situated. Either through actually being a savvy businessman or through cheating and grifting.
And people want to be "comfortable", to at least be able to be able to pay all their bills and have enough left over they don't have to worry about paying for a regular bit of fun or gifts.

Too many people believe that a "Good Businessman" would treat the economy like his or her own business. Ignoring the sociopathy required to cater to shareholders to make more money over one's actual business and success of their product.

Also, Democrats talk about watching waist size (not quite belt tightening) and sharing to ensure everyone gets a fair chance to thrive.
Republicans talk about collecting all the cookies because "you deserve it".
Sort of a marshmallow test for the American Public.
But unfortunately, too many Americans fail.

Haele

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