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Celerity

(46,582 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 05:41 PM Yesterday

The Liberal Patriot: The Democrats' Hispanic Voter Crash............ It's not as bad as you think--it's worse.



https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-democrats-hispanic-voter-crash

It’s been widely noted that the Democrats fared very poorly with Hispanic voters in the November election. But I believe that the scale of the Democrats’ crash among Hispanic voters has not yet been fully processed nor the extent to which this crash undermines Democrats’ plans for the future. Let’s start by looking at some data on the scale of the Democratic Hispanic voter crash. Here are a dozen illustrative findings:

1. According to AP VoteCast data (the best data currently available), the national Democratic margin among Hispanics crashed by 16 points, from a 28-point advantage to just 12 points. This comes on top of another 16-point margin crash between 2016 to 2020, according to the gold standard Catalist data. Compare that to the overall national shift to the right across the entire time period, 2016-2024, which goes from Hillary Clinton’s 2-point advantage in 2016 to Trump’s point and a half margin in this election. That’s a total overall shift of just 3 and ½ points toward Trump, a shift that is simply dwarfed by the massive shift among Hispanics.

2. The Democratic margin among Hispanic working-class (non-college) voters declined by 18 points between 2020 and 2024. That is after a 19-point decline between 2016 and 2020, as measured by Catalist.

3. Hispanic men were a particular trouble spot for the Democrats this election. VoteCast data have the Democratic advantage dropping by 20 points in this election, down to a slender 1-point margin. But Hispanic women also shifted 14 points right in this election. And if you look back to the last election, the decline in Democratic margin between 2016 and 2020 among Hispanic women was actually twice as large (20 points) as it was among Hispanic men (10 points). So across the two elections, the decline in Democratic support among Hispanic men and women may have been quite similar.

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much more at the top link



These Philadelphia voters went for Donald Trump in bigger numbers than ever before. Trump increased his standing in the city’s white, working-class neighborhoods, and improved with Latinos, as well as both middle and working-class voters.




In Queens precincts that are 50-75 percent Hispanic the margin shift toward Trump is a whopping 36 points and in precincts that are more than 75 percent Hispanic the rightward shift since 2020 is an astonishing 48 points.
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The Liberal Patriot: The Democrats' Hispanic Voter Crash............ It's not as bad as you think--it's worse. (Original Post) Celerity Yesterday OP
The men remain the biggest problem. N/t CousinIT Yesterday #1
Let them learn the hard way. . . DinahMoeHum Yesterday #3
Gonna be a whole lotta finding out. n/t Mister Ed Yesterday #2
I have a friend who has a young cousin who is MAGA Trenzalore Yesterday #4
We're both parents American citizens? Dave says Yesterday #10
I see how our side talks about the community isn't going to change Sympthsical Yesterday #5
Most Hispanic voters are Catholic. Ignore their faith and you won't get their vote... PeaceWave Yesterday #6
It's not, for the most part, Elessar Zappa Yesterday #7
What Democratic party officials SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #8
so DonCoquixote 23 hrs ago #11
That's a smear of Democrats. Kingofalldems 22 hrs ago #12
I know it's improper to say... Dave says Yesterday #9
Knr UTUSN 20 hrs ago #13

Trenzalore

(2,525 posts)
4. I have a friend who has a young cousin who is MAGA
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:26 PM
Yesterday

I told him he really needs to have the honest talk about white people clamoring about immigrants. They don't care he was born here or his father served in the military. They view you the same as someone who just got here.

Dave says

(4,967 posts)
10. We're both parents American citizens?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:55 PM
Yesterday

If not, and he is a person of color, I hope he can swim when Trump tosses the anchor (baby) into the sea. That *is* the plan.

Sympthsical

(10,347 posts)
5. I see how our side talks about the community isn't going to change
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:35 PM
Yesterday

We really have become a kind of "insistently learn nothing" space.

Then again, I saw people gleeful at the idea that Latinos might get deported to "teach them a lesson" so nothing really surprises me anymore.

Masks are delicate things and can fall off at the slightest misfortune.

PeaceWave

(1,027 posts)
6. Most Hispanic voters are Catholic. Ignore their faith and you won't get their vote...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:41 PM
Yesterday

I don't know if the Party can deal with that fact. It seems like any time someone brings up any religion other than Islam, there's someone else saying something to the effect that "religion is make believe." You can't take that approach with Hispanic voters.

Elessar Zappa

(16,044 posts)
7. It's not, for the most part,
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:46 PM
Yesterday

Hispanic Catholics who voted Trump. It’s the new Hispanic evangelicals. Something like 80% of Hispanic evangelicals voted Trump, while only 35-40% of Hispanics did likewise. Hispanic Catholics support abortion and gay marriage in higher numbers than white voters. That’s why New Mexico is liberal, although more and more Hispanics here are converting to Evangelicalism moving us to the right some.

DonCoquixote

(13,716 posts)
11. so
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:39 PM
23 hrs ago

when the Catholics become so brazen in their support of the right wing that they even criticize the POPE, we are supposed to bow down, said as a FPROMER catholic.

Dave says

(4,967 posts)
9. I know it's improper to say...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:51 PM
Yesterday

… but may it be a huge dose of FAFO for many of them that dived rightward since 2016.

(Sorry, I have no F’s to give anymore.)

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