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EnergizedLib

(2,224 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:08 PM 9 hrs ago

THEY. GOT. CONNED.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/12/12/economy/grocery-prices-inflation-trump-interview

———Snip

‘It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up’
Speaking in front of a table of packaged foods, Trump used an August press conference to draw attention to food inflation during his campaign for president. “Grocery prices have skyrocketed,” he said.

“When I win, I will immediately bring prices down, starting on day one,” Trump continued. “We will drill, baby, drill,” he said, referring to increasing domestic oil production. “That’s going to bring down prices of everything.”

(Economists generally prefer to see prices increase modestly across an economy rather than fall, a scenario known as deflation, because it can cause people to put off purchases. And often, when prices for goods fall significantly, it’s because more people are unemployed and the economy is in a downturn.)

“It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up,” Trump said in his Time Magazine “Person of the Year” interview published Thursday, referring to grocery prices. “You know, it’s very hard…But I think that they will. I think that energy is going to bring them down.”

“I think a better supply chain is going to bring them down,” he continued. “You know, the supply chain is still broken.”

———Snip

You mean he can’t just magically say, ‘Abracadabra’ and lower prices just like that? Color me shocked.

If only there was someone to warn people he was a con man.

Oh, wait.

These people got played so badly.
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THEY. GOT. CONNED. (Original Post) EnergizedLib 9 hrs ago OP
Badly misinformed suckers. Dave Bowman 9 hrs ago #1
Deliberately believing misinformation due to racism and misogyny. ananda 8 hrs ago #17
Acquiescent accomplices and volunteer victims. BattleRow 6 hrs ago #38
They will all blame President Biden, no matter how bad it gets. mucifer 9 hrs ago #2
That trick will only be able to work for so long EnergizedLib 9 hrs ago #4
Really? canuckledragger 9 hrs ago #5
I mean, concerning the next election cycle or two EnergizedLib 9 hrs ago #6
No it's a cult. they will believe what they are told. mucifer 9 hrs ago #10
Cults don't last forever EnergizedLib 9 hrs ago #11
There are cults that go on for generations. they have endless amounts of money for brainwashing. mucifer 9 hrs ago #13
The cult leader is getting older EnergizedLib 8 hrs ago #20
We have Elon. A law saying that foreign-born people can't be president. kerry-is-my-prez 6 hrs ago #47
He's not born and naturalized EnergizedLib 6 hrs ago #48
Yeah - and a lot if crazy shit that hasn't happened for the kerry-is-my-prez 5 hrs ago #52
Well, Christianity has been around for some time. Dave Bowman 7 hrs ago #25
But Christianity hasn't always won elections or been law of the land EnergizedLib 7 hrs ago #32
Until fairly recent times there was absolutely no barrier between christianity and the power in place, Dave Bowman 6 hrs ago #43
LOL Skittles 3 hrs ago #56
Yep, 2015 gas was at 2 dollars nationally, inflation was below 2%, unemployment was at 4%-ish and the M$M still told ... uponit7771 9 hrs ago #3
Well people are still having problems paying bills. But, it's about to get much much worse. mucifer 9 hrs ago #12
When did people not have trouble paying their bills? Klarkashton 8 hrs ago #22
The amount of credit card debt is worse than it has ever been. You can see in this graph: mucifer 8 hrs ago #24
Yeah, and Black Friday spending was up 10% over last year . . . . hatrack 7 hrs ago #31
Several people I know, including me, Demobrat 6 hrs ago #36
Yep I'm buying a bunch of non-perishable goods. kerry-is-my-prez 6 hrs ago #49
Your numbers are off a bit Wiz Imp 6 hrs ago #37
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. LisaL 9 hrs ago #7
Fooled twice but not very shameful, yet. Dave Bowman 7 hrs ago #27
Magats bdamomma 7 hrs ago #35
Never underestimate the stupidity of MAGA IzzaNuDay 9 hrs ago #8
How is he going to improve the supply chain if he plans to apply tariffs and deport Baitball Blogger 9 hrs ago #9
Trump is just passing gas Dave says 8 hrs ago #15
Trump is passing gas and the media are huffers for Trump. Baitball Blogger 8 hrs ago #16
That methane is lethal,btw BattleRow 6 hrs ago #39
Live and learn, MAGA's. republianmushroom 9 hrs ago #14
They've shown the ability to do the former EnergizedLib 8 hrs ago #19
They asked for it, they got it. And it wasn't Toyota. raccoon 8 hrs ago #18
He could have said this back then. But that would have Klarkashton 8 hrs ago #21
If his mouth is open LilElf70 8 hrs ago #23
They WANTED to get conned... They CHOSE to believe the lies and disinfo instead of the truth... Blue_Tires 7 hrs ago #26
But they live being conned. It's a balm. Sneederbunk 7 hrs ago #28
I suppose next you'll tell us he can't bring permanent peace to Ukraine and Palestine with "just one phone call" Blue_Tires 7 hrs ago #29
They believed everything he said because it didn't matter. He was going to punish their "enemies" no matter what. usonian 7 hrs ago #30
Maybe he'll just fucking die. Orrex 7 hrs ago #33
You can Only Get Played DallasNE 7 hrs ago #34
Of course, they got conned lonely bird 6 hrs ago #40
Their propaganda was super charged with nearly unlimited billionaire resources. Liberal In Texas 6 hrs ago #41
People who've been conned don't admit it. DJ Synikus Makisimus 6 hrs ago #42
And they'll keep bending over for Dear Leader and the billionaire criminal cabal. Initech 6 hrs ago #44
I saw it in 2020 EnergizedLib 6 hrs ago #45
And Eloon said he thinks the American people need to suffer. Initech 6 hrs ago #46
Are they so far gone that Trump will get away with all his crap? kerry-is-my-prez 6 hrs ago #50
He hates who they hate, and that is all they need. They will NOT care about Maru Kitteh 6 hrs ago #51
As someone who has worked in psych and have degrees in it. kerry-is-my-prez 5 hrs ago #55
I've been saying MAGA is a pack of stupid motherfucking pantloads for as long as there's been a shitty Tea Party. SoFlaBro 5 hrs ago #53
He is a con artist and the marks fell for it. FAFO... Dem4life1970 5 hrs ago #54

canuckledragger

(1,976 posts)
5. Really?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:17 PM
9 hrs ago

They've been scapegoating liberals and democrats for as long as I've been alive...49 years.

EnergizedLib

(2,224 posts)
11. Cults don't last forever
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:26 PM
9 hrs ago

And some people leave and others get upset and wake up.

We’re not going to lose elections for the rest of time.

mucifer

(24,902 posts)
13. There are cults that go on for generations. they have endless amounts of money for brainwashing.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:27 PM
9 hrs ago

EnergizedLib

(2,224 posts)
20. The cult leader is getting older
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:10 PM
8 hrs ago

Not everybody can match the felon’s charisma, and those who’ve tried to run on the same policies have lost in down ballot races.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,355 posts)
47. We have Elon. A law saying that foreign-born people can't be president.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:39 PM
6 hrs ago

Can be changed. It would be the least crazy thing that’s happened in the last few years.

EnergizedLib

(2,224 posts)
48. He's not born and naturalized
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:41 PM
6 hrs ago

The Constitution would have to be changed, which doesn’t happen overnight and hasn’t happened for decades.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,355 posts)
52. Yeah - and a lot if crazy shit that hasn't happened for the
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:49 PM
5 hrs ago

entire history of the U.S. has been happening. The Republicans are all of a sudden no fans of the Constitution. We will see the Constitution either get ignored, ripped up, the President/King not have to follow it.

EnergizedLib

(2,224 posts)
32. But Christianity hasn't always won elections or been law of the land
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:26 PM
7 hrs ago

As I’m sure you know.

Dave Bowman

(3,731 posts)
43. Until fairly recent times there was absolutely no barrier between christianity and the power in place,
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:25 PM
6 hrs ago

kings, queens etc, going back to the roman emperors after Constantine converted in the 4th century. The U.S is barely 250 years old, you know.

uponit7771

(91,930 posts)
3. Yep, 2015 gas was at 2 dollars nationally, inflation was below 2%, unemployment was at 4%-ish and the M$M still told ...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:15 PM
9 hrs ago

.... MAGA things were horrible.

Economy vote my ass, people were mic'd

mucifer

(24,902 posts)
12. Well people are still having problems paying bills. But, it's about to get much much worse.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:26 PM
9 hrs ago

Klarkashton

(2,245 posts)
22. When did people not have trouble paying their bills?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:32 PM
8 hrs ago

This shows up every election as if it's something new.

mucifer

(24,902 posts)
24. The amount of credit card debt is worse than it has ever been. You can see in this graph:
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:46 PM
8 hrs ago
https://www.newyorkfed.org/microeconomics/hhdc

Lots of people are suffering. Ignoring that fact doesn't make it better. We would be in a better place republicans, manchin and sinema didn't block progress.

hatrack

(61,079 posts)
31. Yeah, and Black Friday spending was up 10% over last year . . . .
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:08 PM
7 hrs ago

So, yeah, it's 1933 all over again, apparently.

Demobrat

(9,922 posts)
36. Several people I know, including me,
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:50 PM
6 hrs ago

are taking the opportunity to stock up on things they might have waited to buy. Electronics. Appliances. As well as taking care of home maintenance stuff right now before prices go up.

Half the shoppers see higher prices on the way and are attempting to head them off. The other half think Santa Trump is coming.

So yeah, it looks like a very merry Xmas for retailers. The hangover should be fun, though.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,355 posts)
49. Yep I'm buying a bunch of non-perishable goods.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:41 PM
6 hrs ago

Luckily, I’m a bit of a hoarder so I have enough hygiene products to last me for years.

Wiz Imp

(2,147 posts)
37. Your numbers are off a bit
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:58 PM
6 hrs ago

Gas at the beginning of 2015 was $2.51. At the end of the year it was $2.20.
Inflation at the beginning of 2015 was actually -0.1%. At the end of the year it was 0.7%.
Unemployment at the beginning of 2015 was 5.7%. At the end of the year it was 5.0%

I don't remember the media downplaying the health of the economy in 2016 like they did in 2024.

bdamomma

(66,627 posts)
35. Magats
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:40 PM
7 hrs ago

are in for a rude awakening, they didn't even know what "tariffs" are they are TAXES!!! and Obamacare care is the ACA. They have been played.

IzzaNuDay

(656 posts)
8. Never underestimate the stupidity of MAGA
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:20 PM
9 hrs ago

the orange clown is a pathological liar, but still they believed him.

I have no sympathy for MAGA plight as they suffer through the next four years.

Their collective memories of the shitstorm from January 20, 2017 to four years later seem
to be distant.

F all these stupid people.

Baitball Blogger

(48,276 posts)
9. How is he going to improve the supply chain if he plans to apply tariffs and deport
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:20 PM
9 hrs ago

all the cheap labor out of this country. Thinking people want to know. You can't improve the supply chain if food is rotting in the fields. And you can't lower prices if everything that gets imported is being counter tariffed by the countries that are being hit with tariffs.

Dave says

(4,966 posts)
15. Trump is just passing gas
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:48 PM
8 hrs ago

But his cult believes it. They’ll be blaming Obama and Biden for the Civil War soon. They are/will be a lost generation.

EnergizedLib

(2,224 posts)
19. They've shown the ability to do the former
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:09 PM
8 hrs ago

But not the latter.

Them getting played would be even more humorous if the rest of us didn’t have to suffer along with them.

LilElf70

(494 posts)
23. If his mouth is open
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:44 PM
8 hrs ago

He's lying. His supporters are so friggin toopid, they don't even recognize it. They will soon figure it out, but it's too late now.

Blue_Tires

(56,267 posts)
26. They WANTED to get conned... They CHOSE to believe the lies and disinfo instead of the truth...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:47 PM
7 hrs ago

Blue_Tires

(56,267 posts)
29. I suppose next you'll tell us he can't bring permanent peace to Ukraine and Palestine with "just one phone call"
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:55 PM
7 hrs ago

usonian

(14,352 posts)
30. They believed everything he said because it didn't matter. He was going to punish their "enemies" no matter what.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:01 PM
7 hrs ago


Do you remember how Joe Biden was “too old”?
Change the story..

They hear only the dogwhistles.

DallasNE

(7,581 posts)
34. You can Only Get Played
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:32 PM
7 hrs ago

When you allow it to happen by disengaging critical thinking.you take a lot of people down with you.

lonely bird

(1,933 posts)
40. Of course, they got conned
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:11 PM
6 hrs ago

They went willingly with eyes wide shut.

They continue to support a political economy that automatically tends toward destruction because it requires infinite growth in order to not collapse. That prices will not drop because of anything ther imbecile does will become irrelevant in short order. The media is already making noise about how good the economy is. And they will believe it because they want to believe it. And they want to believe Dear Leader is the cause.

The theomythology of this country is incredibly strong.

Liberal In Texas

(14,566 posts)
41. Their propaganda was super charged with nearly unlimited billionaire resources.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:13 PM
6 hrs ago

This is magnified by the right wing media structure that they've been putting together since the 80s. The lies are repeated over and over and pretty soon voters start believing we are in a recession and the price of eggs is the fault of Joe Biden. Traditional corporate media has been cowed into both-siderism afraid of being accused of the dreaded "Liberal Media" insult. This is exacerbated by media owners pulling the reins back on news departments so as not to jeopardize political favor or tax cuts.

Voters were told that the economy was the best in the world after the recovery from covid shut-downs and other good news and positive things were campaigned on. It's just that the RW noise drowned it out. It isn't a matter of listening to fly-over country, it's a matter of being able to get a message out that they will actually hear. And have it repeated over and over.



42. People who've been conned don't admit it.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:15 PM
6 hrs ago

Especially not to themselves. Not without a great deal of, er, motivating factors, and even then. Don't count on anything changing because of reality.

Initech

(102,293 posts)
44. And they'll keep bending over for Dear Leader and the billionaire criminal cabal.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:25 PM
6 hrs ago

Until a Civil War or Great Depression happens and both seem increasingly likely.

EnergizedLib

(2,224 posts)
45. I saw it in 2020
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:29 PM
6 hrs ago

When a cultist said they’d rather love under a great depression than under socialism.

In case you wonder where we’re at.

Initech

(102,293 posts)
46. And Eloon said he thinks the American people need to suffer.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:36 PM
6 hrs ago

A fucking literal James Bond villain is among the MAGA ranks, and it's the guy who wants to be a trillionaire.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,355 posts)
50. Are they so far gone that Trump will get away with all his crap?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:45 PM
6 hrs ago

I really wonder. If he was able to get elected despite all the skeletons in his closet and all of the crazy stuff he has said, I wonder.

Maru Kitteh

(29,195 posts)
51. He hates who they hate, and that is all they need. They will NOT care about
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:46 PM
6 hrs ago

the groceries or much of anything else actually. He hates who they hate, and that is all they need. This is why they love him. It’s why they will never leave him. The bonds of hate.


kerry-is-my-prez

(9,355 posts)
55. As someone who has worked in psych and have degrees in it.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:04 PM
5 hrs ago

And have gone back to being a major cynic, you could very likely be correct. Cognitive Dissonance and Cults are a very powerful thing. If they haven’t turned on him for all the crazy nominees he’s put up, I believe I am seeing a trend. It is very difficult to break people from a cult and we have a lot of cult followers. I’m just glad there’s a few people like all of you at DU who can see the craziness that is going on. People do not like to admit to making horrible mistakes that end up majorly biting them in the ass.

SoFlaBro

(3,359 posts)
53. I've been saying MAGA is a pack of stupid motherfucking pantloads for as long as there's been a shitty Tea Party.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:52 PM
5 hrs ago
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