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Celerity

(49,430 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:13 PM Jan 2025

Fetterman Praises Trump's Greenland Threats: 'A Smart Thing'



https://www.thedailybeast.com/fetterman-praises-trumps-greenland-threats-a-smart-thing/

https://archive.ph/WPWoP



Pennsylvania Sen. John Fetterman said Wednesday he’s open to Donald Trump’s idea that the U.S. acquire Greenland, telling reporters that it’s “strategically a smart thing.”

“I mean, it’s pretty reasonable, and I think it’s actually strategically a smart thing,” Fetterman said, according to NBC News. CNN’s Manu Raju added that Fetterman told the press that he would support the acquisition if Denmark did as well.

Fetterman and Trump had a meeting a few days ago at Trump’s Florida club, Mar-a-Lago, where they not only discussed Greenland but other expansionist ideas—such as reacquiring the Panama Canal.



Trump had kind things to say about Fetterman afterward. “It was a totally fascinating meeting. He’s a fascinating man, and his wife is lovely. They were both up, and I couldn’t be more impressed,” he told the Washington Examiner. “He’s a commonsense person. He’s not liberal or conservative. He’s just a commonsense person, which is beautiful.”

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Fetterman Praises Trump's Greenland Threats: 'A Smart Thing' (Original Post) Celerity Jan 2025 OP
Bless his heart. Autumn Jan 2025 #1
FFS... I remember when idiots said the same about Ron Paul Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #22
Last week I had questions... 2naSalit Jan 2025 #2
... Celerity Jan 2025 #7
Did the stroke edhopper Jan 2025 #3
So, will he be boosting Dems to take the majority in his Commonwealth? UTUSN Jan 2025 #4
I shall not speak ill...and not use names,.. Bread and Circuses Jan 2025 #5
WTF has gone on with Fetterman to be like this? sakabatou Jan 2025 #6
He woke up in a red state on Nov. 6. BannonsLiver Jan 2025 #10
My one consolation will be seeing King Donnie Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #28
Fetterman is talking about buying Greenland, not acquiring them by military invasion. Silent Type Jan 2025 #8
But all the Trumpers said our economy is in tatters Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #26
The first axiom to keep in mind any time "Trump" and "deal" are mentioned in the same sentence... bluesbassman Jan 2025 #35
This guy's lost his marbles spanone Jan 2025 #9
Sen Feddermanchin wears hoodies to hide the holes in his head Jersey Devil Jan 2025 #11
Don't forget to invade Panama dalton99a Jan 2025 #12
No doubt Maduro feels the same way about Puerto Rico. Solly Mack Jan 2025 #13
This Greenland thing makes me think he's trying to play Trump Mosby Jan 2025 #14
Play him into WHAT, exactly?! Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #19
In what way does this look like it's working? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2025 #21
Trumps comments about Fetterman Mosby Jan 2025 #33
I don't see praise from Trump as worth anything. It's not like he's a constant friend to anyone - he'll turn on anyone muriel_volestrangler Jan 2025 #37
Yeah, maybe . Like Garland played Trump. Autumn Jan 2025 #24
Sen Loserman 2.0 Hassler Jan 2025 #15
He had a stroke followed by an extended mental health crisis; he seemed to be bouncing back. hlthe2b Jan 2025 #16
I don't know if recovering from a stroke Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #25
Fetterman clearly isn't playing with a full deck. Paladin Jan 2025 #17
All you Fetterman defenders... Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #18
Charles Pierce: Vichy Democrats Take Note: The Republican Congress Is Coming for Everything muriel_volestrangler Jan 2025 #20
This is why I have serious concerns about the Democratic Party Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #23
Apparently It Hasn't Dawned RobinA Jan 2025 #40
Agreed... Trying to "kill them with kindness" won't work Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #42
Our Representative government has nothing to do with leadership - it's all about getting attention. walkingman Jan 2025 #27
Fetterman is passing this test with flying colours............. Celerity Jan 2025 #41
That is why I am not a big fan of "populists". They very rarely deliver, and JohnSJ Jan 2025 #29
Is it Fetterman role play, or is he really going to Hollywood? bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #30
Senator Manchin Sinema lame54 Jan 2025 #31
The first time I saw the hoodie and shorts Henry203 Jan 2025 #32
He has taken the invitation get the red out Jan 2025 #34
Fetterman Saw The Writing On the Wall Deep State Witch Jan 2025 #36
I live in Philly JBTaurus83 Jan 2025 #38
"He's a fascinating man, and his wife is lovely" Polybius Jan 2025 #39
No, it's an extremely stupid thing! Initech Jan 2025 #43

Autumn

(47,719 posts)
1. Bless his heart.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:17 PM
Jan 2025
“He’s a commonsense person. He’s not liberal or conservative. He’s just a commonsense person, which is beautiful.”



Beautiful.
 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
22. FFS... I remember when idiots said the same about Ron Paul
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jan 2025

That's a 2016 level of normalizing, naivety and sanewashing I thought we had evolved past...

Bread and Circuses

(708 posts)
5. I shall not speak ill...and not use names,..
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:27 PM
Jan 2025

Some have posited that a Hoodie wearing man from PA might be a spy working of behalf of the Dems to get inside information.

I wish it was true, each day it feels unlikely.

Rather, I think the Hoodie hides the truth and this torn gym shorts is a traitor.


As I recall the MAGA crowd made fun of he was hospitalized for mental health care….On your own , dude.

I’m watching

BannonsLiver

(19,052 posts)
10. He woke up in a red state on Nov. 6.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:39 PM
Jan 2025

I don’t expect red state Dems to operate the same as blue state Dems but he has dramatically overcorrected. If it continues the net effect is that he will alienate a significant number of Democrats trying to move soft Rs and R leaning Independents his way. And in that scenario it’s unlikely he wins reelection.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
28. My one consolation will be seeing King Donnie
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:32 AM
Jan 2025

Endorse Fetterman's nutbar opponent as John learns all his shameless whoring and selling out was for nothing...

Silent Type

(9,017 posts)
8. Fetterman is talking about buying Greenland, not acquiring them by military invasion.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:37 PM
Jan 2025

Buying is a big stupid trump joke, IMO. But, if he worked out some deal that was good for the world, I’d listen.

Though fat chance he’ll cut a deal that is good for anyone but himself.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
26. But all the Trumpers said our economy is in tatters
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:29 AM
Jan 2025

Where's this money coming from to fucking BUY another country wholesale?

bluesbassman

(20,250 posts)
35. The first axiom to keep in mind any time "Trump" and "deal" are mentioned in the same sentence...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:59 AM
Jan 2025

is this: "EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES TURNS TO SHIT".

Maybe the good Senator from Pennsylvania is not aware of this well known truth, but setting that shortcoming aside fuck the MAGAts, where does Fetterman think the money's coming from?

Mosby

(18,386 posts)
14. This Greenland thing makes me think he's trying to play Trump
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:13 AM
Jan 2025

And it seems to be working.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,477 posts)
21. In what way does this look like it's working?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:19 AM
Jan 2025

I get that you could hope that he's trying to play Trump, and you can hope that it is, in some way, "working", but what is the visible evidence for "seems"?

Mosby

(18,386 posts)
33. Trumps comments about Fetterman
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:46 AM
Jan 2025

And his wife.

"It was a totally fascinating meeting. He’s a fascinating man, and his wife is lovely. They were both up, and I couldn’t be more impressed,” Trump said to the Washington Examiner, referring to Fetterman and his wife, Gisele. “He’s a commonsense person. He’s not liberal or conservative. He’s just a commonsense person, which is beautiful.”


Fetterman has preemptively defused Trumps usual rhetoric about liberals, and has gained his respect. Fetterman now has the ability to leverage this relationship, which could obviously help him and possibly the democrats.

I'm just trying to understand Fettermans recent statements, without assuming that he's a traitor in the democratic party. He deserves at least that.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,477 posts)
37. I don't see praise from Trump as worth anything. It's not like he's a constant friend to anyone - he'll turn on anyone
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jan 2025

for the slightest of reasons. If Trump actually needed Fetterman for something, it might be an indicator; but Fetterman is the needy one here. Trump already has a majority of acolytes in the Senate.

hlthe2b

(109,233 posts)
16. He had a stroke followed by an extended mental health crisis; he seemed to be bouncing back.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:01 AM
Jan 2025

But he has spoken about his ongoing depression. So, this 180 change in his positions might well not be mere political expedience. I'd love to know what meds he is on. Truly.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
25. I don't know if recovering from a stroke
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:27 AM
Jan 2025

Is enough to explain Fetterman jumping on the white supremacy bandwagon... Doesn't he have advisors and all that?

Paladin

(30,211 posts)
17. Fetterman clearly isn't playing with a full deck.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jan 2025

He went over to the Dark Side some time ago, and he needs to be removed from office and replaced with a reliable Democrat, just as soon as possible.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,477 posts)
20. Charles Pierce: Vichy Democrats Take Note: The Republican Congress Is Coming for Everything
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:17 AM
Jan 2025
They’re coming for everything. Somebody tell John Fetterman and the rest of the Vichy Democrats. From Politico:

The early list of potential spending offsets obtained by POLITICO includes changes to Medicare and ending Biden administration climate programs, along with slashing welfare and “reimagining” the Affordable Care Act. Five people familiar with the document said those provisions are options to finance Republicans’ massive party-line reconciliation bill or other spending reform efforts, including those being spearheaded by the so-called Department of Government Efficiency.

The people, granted anonymity to discuss closed-door negotiations, said that the list originated from the House Budget Committee, chaired by Rep. Jodey Arrington (R-Texas). Republicans involved in the reconciliation plans have been generally targeting the listed programs for several months, but internal GOP fights over trillions of dollars in potential cuts are just beginning.

None of that should matter. This list is a statement of what they want to do, a statement of what they believe the proper role of government to be, and a statement that they don’t find the Musk–Ramaswamy project as worthy of ridicule as it actually is. There is no compromising with people like this. Also, I think we should keep an eye on this Arrington cat. He seems to be the ambitious Jim Jordan type.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a63397452/supreme-court-debate-tiktok-ban/

Can't argue with Charlie Pierce - he's one of the most perceptive commentators in the world (along with Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman, and Josh Marshall). Fetterman is collaborating with evil.
 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
23. This is why I have serious concerns about the Democratic Party
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:24 AM
Jan 2025

Putting up any kind of unified resistance to King Donnie...

Donnie isn't even coronated yet and there's way too many fucking Dems who are willing to just go along with whatever.

Quislings and cowards...

RobinA

(10,309 posts)
40. Apparently It Hasn't Dawned
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:18 PM
Jan 2025

on many people in high places that this is not your run of the mill mediocre President-elect. They still think he's gonna straighten up and fly right. Which he never did the first term and he certainly isn't going to the second time. People who aren't in the business or who have never been close to someone with a personality disorder often don't understand their immutability.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
42. Agreed... Trying to "kill them with kindness" won't work
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:48 PM
Jan 2025

But I think there's something more cynical and craven at work here with Fetterman... He's trying to engineer an eventual situation where he claims the Dems "have left him behind" or some bullshit and then he makes himself an Independent thinking the triangulation will save his ass...

walkingman

(9,106 posts)
27. Our Representative government has nothing to do with leadership - it's all about getting attention.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:30 AM
Jan 2025

Celerity

(49,430 posts)
41. Fetterman is passing this test with flying colours.............
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:52 PM
Jan 2025
it's all about getting attention.

JohnSJ

(98,449 posts)
29. That is why I am not a big fan of "populists". They very rarely deliver, and
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:33 AM
Jan 2025

often disappoint.

In my view it is bait and switch.

bucolic_frolic

(49,920 posts)
30. Is it Fetterman role play, or is he really going to Hollywood?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:40 AM
Jan 2025

Fetterman fakes left, breaks a tackle, down the field going right ....

They're performers. Fetterman will not get re-elected.

get the red out

(13,711 posts)
34. He has taken the invitation
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:53 AM
Jan 2025

to sell his soul to the devil, that usually doesn't work out as one hopes.

Deep State Witch

(11,742 posts)
36. Fetterman Saw The Writing On the Wall
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:15 PM
Jan 2025

I think when Bob Casey was defeated by a carpetbagging Republican from Connecticut, Fetterman saw the writing on the wall and started capitulating to the MAGAts.

IDK - maybe they've threatened to deport his wife?

And yinz all said that Connor Lamb was a DINO....

JBTaurus83

(255 posts)
38. I live in Philly
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:20 PM
Jan 2025

and I do not believe Fetterman will be re-elected to the senate. I believe he will either lose his primary or lose to whoever the Republican candidate is. His mental health is a major concern here. I think he is angling for a paid job under Dump when this occurs. He certainly would not get anything paying what he makes right now in the private sector.

Polybius

(19,800 posts)
39. "He's a fascinating man, and his wife is lovely"
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:05 PM
Jan 2025

Trump was definitely having perverted thoughts about his wife, and he can't help himself by calling her "lovely."

Initech

(104,535 posts)
43. No, it's an extremely stupid thing!
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jan 2025

Stop normalizing Trump. None of this shit was or is normal.

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