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DemocratSinceBirth
(101,594 posts)
Jerry2144
(3,152 posts)100% agree with the sentiment
William769
(59,147 posts)
GiqueCee
(3,212 posts)... are the same people that vilify "woke", without knowing what it means and DEI because they do. In short, people with whom I would not shake hands before I'd had the shots.
claudette
(5,455 posts)sop
(17,180 posts)
sop
(17,180 posts)Or maybe he offered it as business advice during one of 'The Apprentice' episodes, just before telling someone "you're fired!"
Buzz cook
(2,828 posts)I was hoping to see Trump do the same.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)
Shipwack
(2,962 posts)About 3.4% of the total vote.
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)
malaise
(291,873 posts)Rec
ancianita
(42,727 posts)This is what makes Democrats different from Republicans who themselves, in the main, want only money and power or to serve those with money and power, and care nothing for the poor, the sick, the widows, the orphans, and the children.
seta1950
(962 posts)AGREE
LoisB
(12,181 posts)
MiHale
(12,478 posts)
debm55
(54,392 posts)
Javaman
(64,996 posts)Picaro
(2,314 posts)Sailingfish
(47 posts)Overly optimistic in his visions of the class consciousness and the direction of the working class in the US, but a giant in agitating for workers and labor nonetheless. The authoritarianism and totalitarianism of "actually existing socialist" governments and experiments didn't help matters, but his words and agitation should haunt the souls of anyone still dedicated to business as usual and the current relationship between capital and labor.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs
soldierant
(9,240 posts)with leftist government being authoritarian and scaring people. Even if the governmanr is not actually leftist at all. Russia admitted when the Soviet Union broke up that its government was no longer Communist, but many people, including many Democrats, appear to still believe it is. It might help if we could all stop referring to "Comrade Putin."
But I don't know how we can expect people to know any better without learning about The Political Compass.(thepoliticalcompass dot org.) In the eighties there was a short period when we started to get close to getting it when we started talking about "fiscally" and "socially" liberal or conservative positions. that at least got the point across that there were differences between economic positions and autocracy as opposed to democracy. But even that has been gone for a long time.
Magoo48
(6,687 posts)
TBF
(35,337 posts)and of course, w/this statement. He ran for president from jail under the socialist party and received nearly a million votes. I guess it helps me understand how supporters of Trump feel about him: they completely support everything he is doing. But that is probably the only similarity between Debs and Trump - actually being convicted of crimes. In terms of how they view the average person the gulf couldn't be wider. It is going to be a long four (or however many) years.
SARose
(1,822 posts)Each one stands on a step with their hand held up and down. Up to progress and mobility above and down to the hungry, marginalized and hopeless below. This is what it means to be an American. My Dad.
bronxiteforever
(11,035 posts)The failure to look after the weak will eventually lead to the destruction of both the powerful and the weak.
FDR knew that lesson and saved the country from Revolution while building the safety net.
gopiscrap
(24,519 posts)
dcweed
(35 posts)As the great-grandson of a man who;
A] was Debs jailer in 1894, and
B] attended Debs speeches as a Socialist in the 1907,
I fully agree.
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NoMoreRepugs
(11,765 posts)bee_peaceful
(84 posts)Mblaze
(902 posts)Modern American "Prosperity Gospel" Christians have shitcanned that teaching of the Psalms and of Jesus Christ. They are ravening wolves in sheep's clothing.
Psalm 41-1
"Blessed is he who has regard for the weak; the LORD delivers him in times of trouble"
Acts 20:35:
“In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Paul
"We then, who are strong, ought to bear with the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves."
wcmagumba
(5,446 posts)
brush
(61,033 posts)
FoxNewsSucks
(11,476 posts)👍
Walleye
(43,596 posts)I think that’s kind of the essence of Christianity. Also the good old American belief in fair play.
Wild blueberry
(8,058 posts)Thank you.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,548 posts)If you were on a boat with a life preserver, and a certain felonious president-elect were in the water calling for help, what would you play on your phone, Beatles or Stones?
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)I ain't got no...
"Sympathy for the devil"...
As I sprayed him in the face with my boat wake!
rambler_american
(925 posts)so absolutely agree.
True Dough
(25,502 posts)Woke and proud of it! As in human decency!
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)
duhneece
(4,464 posts)That would be basic American history.
Codifer
(1,140 posts)Certainly
duhneece
(4,464 posts)That would be basic American history.
WestCoastDem42
(68 posts)Festivito
(13,832 posts)Capitalize by investing in friends.
The latter is the better ladder.
Beartracks
(14,271 posts)Little Johnny: "Well... Then what are the others here for?"
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OldBaldy1701E
(9,870 posts)patphil
(8,615 posts)We need to help the ones who have trouble helping themselves.
Bootstraps be damned.
ck4829
(37,321 posts)
calimary
(88,748 posts)Our Call to Action” email that my Indivisible group issues every week always starts with a quote. This one’s good!
stage left
(3,181 posts)Absolutely and unequivocally.
snot
(11,401 posts)be sent, regardless of their qualifications?
I agree with Debs insofar as, right now, our society treats too many desirable things as if there's one pie that can only be divided so many ways, when in fact, if the proper reforms were made, the pie itself could grow so as to allow more people to enjoy it. I do believe, e.g., that everyone who wants a college education should have an opportunity to get the best one they're capable of attaining, with the costs borne by the state.
But there ARE some things that we can't at present grow more of or successfully scale up, no matter how we reformed our systems. In that case, I think a rational and reasonably humane argument can be made for allocating limited supplies of desirable things based on hopefully-mutually-agreed criteria, such as who actually wants or needs a particular limited good the most, who happens to have the particular talents or whatever that would enable them to make the best use of the limited good, etc.
I'm a fan of Debs, but the particular formulation in the O.P. strikes me as too simplistic.
H2O Man
(78,447 posts)100%
Pototan
(2,940 posts)those who disagree are eating us alive.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)Basic human compassion is the most important thing in the world. Human beings who do not have it are the source of most of our problems. I really think that many MAGAs have personality disorders and a lack of empathy. People like that seek power because they love only themselves, want power and wealth, and enjoy hurting others. People like that do not belong in charge. Many of them should probably be removed from society.
summer_in_TX
(3,986 posts)My great grandfather and great grandmother, good Austin liberals way back then, hosted Debs in their home when he came to town to speak and organize.
My mom's side of the family became more moderate over time, from full-on socialists to liberal democrats. Dad, on the other hand, was a Bernie fan.
gademocrat7
(11,773 posts)Ohioboy
(3,841 posts)bluboid
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Clouds Passing
(6,756 posts)We are all born onto this earth equally, we are all deserving of the resources of this world equally. No one being is deserving of more than any other being.