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Colgate 64

(14,859 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 04:24 PM Wednesday

Sheer and utter disdain and contempt

Now that we've had a taste of Elon Musk's management style, I believe it is becoming clear to even the most fervent MAGA's that Musk views all mere employees - especially government employees - as essentially worthless and in many cases unnecessary cogs in a machine he neither understands nor appreciates.
His disdain and, I believe actual contempt for workers is obvious. In Musk's world, these people are merely pieces of a machine. Some are unnecessary. Many are duplicative. And almost all are essentially lazy and unproductive. The solution: Fire "x" percent outright. Leave the others wondering when or if the axe will drop on them. And then rinse and repeat. This has been his "management strategy" at Tesla and is the strategy he's undertaking with our government agencies, all with the tacit blessing of the Orange Doofus who is presently serving as Musk's Vice President.
Musk's hyper-energetic ego will force him to double down on the many abuses already noted. Eventually Donald will tire of the Trusk presidency and throw Musk under the bus. But by that time, much of the government will be in ashes. Elon will take his billions of marbles and simply go home or to any number of countries that covet his money. We, however are left here to try and pick up whatever pieces are even left to pick up. We are well and truly screwed.

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Sheer and utter disdain and contempt (Original Post) Colgate 64 Wednesday OP
Many of these people have worked loyally for the US government longer than he's even been in the country Walleye Wednesday #1
Musk is evil. dalton99a Wednesday #2
Elon wants to die on Mars. Send him on a SpaceX rocket and get it over with. Blue Full Moon Wednesday #3
Just have it explode on launch. "Whoopsie! Someone made a mistake (but we'll fix it quickly for future launches)" JHB Wednesday #17
Elmo is reminding Americans of every shitty boss they've ever Hassler Wednesday #4
Let's not forget that Trump is to blame for all of it FoggyLake Wednesday #5
Exactly!t Katinfl Wednesday #6
Agree and also blame the Republicans in Congress! BlueHurricane Thursday #27
He doesn't have a management strategy. mwooldri Wednesday #7
When you've never worked in your life, you think that workers are useless. Yavin4 Wednesday #8
When you've never worked in your life, you think that workers are useless. Yavin4 Wednesday #9
Simplistically, fuck Elon Musk. Practically--the only government workers Musk supports are those that administer his gov Comfortably_Numb Wednesday #10
Gotta wonder if this EVIL has been with him all this time? bluestarone Wednesday #11
It's been with him all the time. It's just that now he's on a bigger, public stage and it's more obvius. SharonAnn Wednesday #15
Yes, indeed. They feel like the line item in the corporate spreadsheet labeled WAGES would be best LiberalArkie Wednesday #12
Yep orangecrush Wednesday #13
But his mommy says he just wants to make the world a better place! dchill Wednesday #14
sounds like you have strong feelings jessieiknapp Wednesday #16
Well said. orangecrush Wednesday #23
Sounds like AI drivel to me JoseBalow Wednesday #25
Indeed. Solomon Thursday #28
Exactly. First post, too. Dark n Stormy Knight Thursday #29
This message was self-deleted by its author FSogol Thursday #30
No, I don't have any particularly strong feelings. JoseBalow Thursday #31
Relax, responsed to the wrong text. You called it right on the bot. n/t FSogol Thursday #32
I'm relaxed, no problemo JoseBalow Thursday #34
It sounds like you have strong feelings? AI much? FSogol Thursday #33
Musk is doing a great job Mysterian Wednesday #18
There is a vast divide between creation and desecration. BattleRow Wednesday #19
When the BIG depression gets going, BidenRocks Wednesday #20
Maybe the thought leaders on here should work within their communities to promote PatrickforB Wednesday #21
Most Maga still supports the shit JI7 Wednesday #22
Earl Weaver, Godot51 Wednesday #24
Well be Main street America post-big box stores. And with minimal functioning gov't. GPV Thursday #26

Walleye

(38,292 posts)
1. Many of these people have worked loyally for the US government longer than he's even been in the country
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 04:40 PM
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JHB

(37,586 posts)
17. Just have it explode on launch. "Whoopsie! Someone made a mistake (but we'll fix it quickly for future launches)"
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 07:06 PM
Wednesday

Or, if you really want to get him off-planet, plunge him into the Sun. No need to sully Mars with his freeze-dried corpse.

Katinfl

(302 posts)
6. Exactly!t
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 05:57 PM
Wednesday

Musk would not be here if it was not for trump. As bad as he is, and he’s horrible, the buck stops at trump.

BlueHurricane

(43 posts)
27. Agree and also blame the Republicans in Congress!
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 10:22 AM
Thursday

The Republicans in congress have the power to stop this and they do nothing.

mwooldri

(10,568 posts)
7. He doesn't have a management strategy.
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:14 PM
Wednesday

He has a manglement strategy. It's a similar strategy that Jeff Bezos uses. It's more obvious in Musk's case because he's coming in to slash and burn what's already there... Bezos already has the place burning when he started it. Amazon's employee turnover rate is pretty high.

Yavin4

(37,013 posts)
8. When you've never worked in your life, you think that workers are useless.
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:21 PM
Wednesday

When you've never ever had to hold down a job or need a paycheck to pay your bills, then you think that all workers are worthless.

To Musk and ilk, only stupid people depend on jobs. "Smart" people know how to talk their way into wealth. Know how to convince other people to give them money. That's true talent.

Yavin4

(37,013 posts)
9. When you've never worked in your life, you think that workers are useless.
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:21 PM
Wednesday

When you've never ever had to hold down a job or need a paycheck to pay your bills, then you think that all workers are worthless.

To Musk and ilk, only stupid people depend on jobs. "Smart" people know how to talk their way into wealth. Know how to convince other people to give them money. That's true talent.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,166 posts)
10. Simplistically, fuck Elon Musk. Practically--the only government workers Musk supports are those that administer his gov
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:34 PM
Wednesday

contracts. You know, that $8 mil a day.

bluestarone

(18,982 posts)
11. Gotta wonder if this EVIL has been with him all this time?
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:37 PM
Wednesday

Or did moving into OUR white house start it? How can people work for this BASTARD?

SharonAnn

(13,956 posts)
15. It's been with him all the time. It's just that now he's on a bigger, public stage and it's more obvius.
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:56 PM
Wednesday

He's always been a dick.

LiberalArkie

(17,479 posts)
12. Yes, indeed. They feel like the line item in the corporate spreadsheet labeled WAGES would be best
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:41 PM
Wednesday

for management and stockholder if it was just $0.0. Management feel that they are the ones who make the money for a company. Not the ones doing the welding of parts, or the assembly workers. They are all just creatures that the government requires that the company have and have to expend the managements personal money on.

dchill

(41,451 posts)
14. But his mommy says he just wants to make the world a better place!
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:55 PM
Wednesday

Put a little love in your heart!

jessieiknapp

(1 post)
16. sounds like you have strong feelings
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:57 PM
Wednesday

It sounds like you have strong feelings about Musk’s management style and its potential impact on government agencies. His track record at Tesla, SpaceX, and Twitter (now X) certainly shows a pattern of aggressive cost-cutting, mass layoffs, and a belief in a lean workforce. Some see this as ruthless efficiency, while others view it as reckless disregard for workers.

If Musk’s approach extends to government agencies, it raises serious questions about stability, worker morale, and long-term effectiveness. While some inefficiencies surely exist in any large organization, gutting entire departments without understanding their functions could create more chaos than productivity.

As for his political entanglements, it remains to be seen how long his alliance with Trump (or any other political figure) will last. Musk has a history of shifting allegiances based on what benefits his business interests. If things don’t go his way, he may indeed retreat to another country, leaving Americans to deal with the fallout.

It’s a bleak outlook, but history has shown that even powerful figures eventually face consequences—whether from public backlash, economic realities, or political shifts. The question is whether the damage done in the meantime is reversible.

Response to JoseBalow (Reply #25)

JoseBalow

(6,812 posts)
31. No, I don't have any particularly strong feelings.
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 03:17 PM
Thursday

And yes, I do use AI pretty frequently for different things. That's how I can tell it's AI drivel.

It sounds like maybe you have strong feelings?

BattleRow

(1,426 posts)
19. There is a vast divide between creation and desecration.
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 07:13 PM
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Musk has neither a means of conveyance nor the ability to swim this chasm.

BidenRocks

(1,115 posts)
20. When the BIG depression gets going,
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 07:16 PM
Wednesday

The rich fucks can buy what's left of America for pennies on the dollar.
We fight or shut up and wither away.

My oath stands. The Constitution, not chump!

PatrickforB

(15,175 posts)
21. Maybe the thought leaders on here should work within their communities to promote
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 07:41 PM
Wednesday

economic self-sufficiency in those communities. For example, we have technology to revolutionize agriculture through agrivoltaic power, hydroponic and aeroponic farming. And the stupid immigrant roundups will leave our rural areas with crops rotting on the ground unless we can use technology to create robots to help with produce harvests.

And what about textile manufacturing? And paper production?

Hemp. A hectare of hemp sequesters the same amount of CO2 as a hectare of new forest, and hemp seeds have nutritional value, hemp fibers make good quality strong clothing, rope and we can make paper from hemp. We would deplete a lot less forest this way.

And, if we can figure out nuclear fusion (as opposed to fission), the nuclear waste we have could provide electricity, and of course Nikola Tesla maintained that if we could harness the electromagnetic force of the earth itself, we could have electricity for the whole planet. Not to mention solar and wind power, as well as hydroelectric.

In the west we need to teach people to capture rainwater and snow melt, and create dew collectors.

We need microlending that can help people re-think the old 'job' paradigm and start cottage industries.

What about community gardens? Urban gardens? Rooftop gardens? It is possible for us to begin growing enough produce to feed ourselves and if we learn to can and pickle the food we can set ourselves up for a whole year and in the meantime eat MUCH better than the pesticide/fertilizer laden produce we get at the supermarket - tasteless tomatoes, mushy apples and so on.

Because make no mistake. Trump hates this country and wants revenge on every single American. He is a monster, and Elon a tyrant.

The need right now to rethink how we organize ourselves locally and statewide is urgent because all the stuff the federal government has done for us without us even thinking about it is rapidly swirling down into the Trump sewer. What will be happening over the next year or two is our government will lose $4.5 trillion in revenue and we will have cut after cut after cut. Republicans will end the ACA, and Trump wants to fold Medicare and Social Security into a mega-fund that he and his billionaire parasite cronies can speculate with on Wall Street. And when that bubble pops, our elderly will be eating out of dumpsters.

Because. He. Doesn't. Give. A. Shit.

So all these federal services will be devolving as unfunded mandates for states and local governments. We need to begin collaborative community efforts NOW to allow us to fill this upcoming vacuum locally. It can be done, but we the people have to have the guts to move forward in cooperation with each other. And I'm not talking about preppign, just about how we will fill the gaps left as federal services are cut and then ended over time.

Yeah, the federal government is rapidly getting fucked courtesy of Chaos Trump and Tyrant Musk, but that doesn't mean our communities have to die out.

By the way, since Musk is not confirmed or elected, and DOGE does not exist with the sanction of Congress, Eyore is cutting services but our taxes are going to stay the same. Does this mean we are going to be taxed without representation? Just asking for a friend...

On edit: And think a moment about barter and how those economies might be created.

Oh and there is nothing utopian about all this. This is how our great grandparents actually lived.

JI7

(91,443 posts)
22. Most Maga still supports the shit
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 07:51 PM
Wednesday

the ones seeing things differently are mostly casual voters who just aren't that political .

Godot51

(379 posts)
24. Earl Weaver,
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:09 PM
Wednesday

the manager of the Baltimore Orioles from the 60s through the 80s, once said (paraphrased, to be sure) "Being a manager is getting credit for the games won by the players".

This sums up little man mucks business acumen.

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