There may be no flu shots this year. Or, COVID boosters/shots.

[CousinIT]

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Saw this on MSNBC Prime tonight:



This was apparently the SECOND time this meeting was canceled. It has not been rescheduled and probably RFKJr halted it.

FDA cuts directly affected human food safety personnel — some resigned due to the cuts - because they could no longer do the job. And Don Jr’s idiot hunting buddy who promoted eating raw marmot is being put over food safety at FDA. The firings were another Muskrat fuck-up, so now they are trying to hire the employees back. So our food is no longer safe.

ALSO, money targeted to go to Moderna to develop an MRNA H1N1 (bird flu) vaccine was halted.

Development of a COVID pill was halted.

And a program to study some other nasty stuff (that I can't remember the name of, but it comes from eating nasty stuff like raw marmot) was canceled.

[tanyev]

1. I'd better buy more masks while we can still get them.

[LisaL]

3. Yep, that might be our only protection in the coming years.

NT

[Scrivener7]

6. You're right. We'll be back to those early days of Covid when we had no weapons against it and people

were dying by the thousands.

[orangecrush]

2. This must be stopped

Calling the cowards who should have stopped it already tomorrow.

[DSandra]

11. They are essentially daring everyone to start civil war

Taking a lot of hostages in the process.

[DENVERPOPS]

19. Absolutely DS

My thoughts exactly.......I honestly feel the sole reason the Dems didn't challenge them over the voting, was they knew than the day after the election, if Trump didn't win, we would have INSTANTANEOUSLY been in an all out Civil War.........

Per Trump: Stand back and stand by.......not the typical Stand back and stand DOWN I can only imagine what they had waiting by their Trumphumpers.......

I am sure they are in hopes of large demonstrations across the country, even if totally peaceful, to engage the "Insurrection Clause" and establish Martial Law to engage the entire U.S. Military's use against U.S. Citizens. It would allow him to completely ignore the
Posse Comatatus laws forbidding that from happening....created so they couldn't do that exact scenario........

Perhaps that is why they aren't filling the spaces in prisons across the country with the immigrants they are arresting for deportation, and flying them out immediately......

[canetoad]

4. Totally outrageous

What about immunity-compromised people? And those who just choose to vaccinate because they figure it's the responsible thing to do?

I hope the idiots who facilitated this possibility can be sued into poverty.

[Hugin]

5. Exactly who is making these edicts needs to be made public.

They’re hiding, because they know it’s wrong, probably illegal, and unpopular with the majority of Americans. We have an open and transparent government in the USA.

[Initech]

30. RFK Jr needs to be dragged by his worthless heels.

Fuck this POS lunatic - he's going to get a whole ton of people killed.

[Meowmee]

34. A child just died from measles

It’s on him imo even though he recently started because it’s on his watch and he has been pushing his antivax crap for years and making money himself off the lawsuits.

[Initech]

38. I'll never understand how he was made a hero while Fauci was made the villian.

[Meowmee]

39. He was part of their plan

To help orange psycho get elected, etc., and to help kill more people. Actually, I knew a lot of the terrible things about him before this, but I had not heard anything about him for years and was shocked when I heard that he was running for president, etc..

[FuzzyRabbit]

7. We may have to go to another country for our vaccinations.

Probably every other advanced nation will have flu and covid vaccines and any other we may need. Thank God I am only a 3 hour drive from Canada.

[BidenRocks]

15. What if Canada and Mexico

Had a Disney level entry fee to get in?

[newdeal2]

46. $5 million seems fair for access to life saving drugs

[OrlandoDem2]

8. Madness

[Maru Kitteh]

9. This is chilling. I hope I can get vaccinated in Canada if things go sideways.

Till I move there.

[B.See]

10. Par for the course,

in the age of deliberately ignorant q-Anon inspired MAGA BATSHITERY.

You can bet that Trump and his filthy rich pals will have them, though.

[DSandra]

12. America is descending into the Dark Ages

Think Handmaids Tale combined with pestilence, collapsed medical system, no regulations on food and other thing, and destitution like in the poorest of nations.

[NickB79]

13. Guess I'll be driving 5 hr north to Canada this fall

Anyone know how much Canada charges for COVID and flu vaccines?

[dpibel]

23. Just like those damned seat belts

They save, like, 15,000 lives a year.

That's like 38% meh, right.

So fuck the seat belts.

[RockCreek]

24. And what was the popukation size back then?

And age distribution?
And about a dozen other things that need to be factored in before trying to make such a comparison?

[Ilsa]

16. Putin must have told trump to turn the USA into a 3rd world country.

He's happy to accomplish it in record time. It's easier for the dictators.

[Irish_Dem]

42. I agree, Putin ordered Trump to make the US a third world country asap.

Astonishing that it can happen so fast.

[Mountainguy]

17. Somebody should tell Trump that the Flu vaccine protects the economy more than it protects lives.

Flu vaccine prevents 5-10k deaths a year.

On the other side it protects many many more hospitalizations, gets people back to work faster, and prevents a lot of people from getting sick at all. Those three things on their own are a significant safety mechanism to minimize flus impact on the economy.

[johnnyfins]

18. So what do you wanna do?

Jeopardize billionaire's tax cuts????????? Are you completely MAD??!?!??!!!

[Iris]

20. An acquaintance from a town Iived in as a child just died from flu

This is the 2nd person I've know to die from flu complications. The other was a 12 yr old distant cousin

[GoodRaisin]

21. Hopefully our medical professionals will raise holy hell in time to do something

about this. We can’t just not have vaccines.

[Initech]

31. But we have the worst fucking possible person you could put in charge of public health, in charge.

Fuck RFK Jr, I hope Satan has a special circle of hell reserved just for him.

[progressoid]

22. Wonder what the medical world will make of this.

My wife works in health care. Her employer requires her to get a flu vaccine every year.

[markodochartaigh]

25. Also, it might be a good idea for seniors

to ask their doctors if they should get the shingles (there are two doses), pneumonia, rsv, or tdap vaccines which are required less than annually. Who knows if they will be covered by Medicare in a year or two.

[Meowmee]

33. I have gotten all of the ones I needed and I was boostered for all the childhood vaccines now too.

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Including polio. I’m going to be getting the shingles vaccine very soon. I was gonna wait an extra week after the polio vaccine but now I’m not going to delay.

[defacto7]

26. Yersinia Pestis (Bubonic plague) is bacteria.

It's controlled by antibiotics like doxycycline. Just since you asked about it I thought I'd throw this in. It's not the problem it used to be. The only issue would be the same as with all dangerous bacteria. It could gain resistance to antibiotics due to general overuse.

[CousinIT]

40. I think they may have been referring to something else but my brain can't recall the name of it.

It was something you get from eating crap like raw marmot.

[defacto7]

43. Hmmm ...

I seem to remember that marmot has been known to be a host for the plague. They're so distant from us I wouldn't think it's a problem unless, of course, you go messing around with them. Eating one raw you could set yourself up for a lot of things including plague. No doubt you could get pretty sick. Wild rodents aren't exactly the safest meat source. Now there's bird flu to think about. AntiBs may kill off the plague, but bird flu mutations, no such luck.

[CousinIT]

44. That was it. Rachel showed DJTJr eating marmot. His dumb friend is now set to be over food safety at FDA

What could go wrong with that, eh?

[WestMichRad]

27. This is why I can't read the news anymore.

I can’t increase my Xanax dosage any further.

They truly do not care if we live or die. Just so the effing billionaires can make more effing billions.

Eat the rich.

[LastDemocratInSC]

28. We're going to party like it's 1399.

It will be like a never ending renaissance festival but enhanced with foodborne illnesses, rodents, sewage, and various pestilences and medical crises. Very authentic stuff.

But we will have 5G internet service. And in the evenings all the townfolk will gather to sing the old hymn "All God's Children Got IP Addresses".

Or something like that.

[defacto7]

29. The biggest problem with all this is that the lack of vaccines

will encourage mutations throughout the population. The open viruses especially like SARS, MERS etc.will mutate and spread uninhibited and with greater speed. Closed viruses like the flu will do the same though likely at a slower rate. It's those SARS/MERS viruses that have the possibility of wiping out hundreds of millions, even billions. Then there's Smallpox which killed large portions of the human race in ancient times. It is on it's way back already. Tuberculosis is coming back, another bacterium needing more antibiotics. Add the antiB resistant staph among others, the list goes on.
Even with all the science we've had at our disposal, it was an uphill climb ahead of us. But now ... it's hard to grasp what's ahead of us now.

[CousinIT]

45. RFKJr wanted to stop research into all infectious diseases for 8 years or some such.

CAN YOU IMAGINE that?

What a DEATH-promoting dumbass!

I think they are actually trying to DO this now. I hope they're not, but they've halted even reporting flu strains to the WHO (which SHitler pulled us out of first thing), and they've halted numerous other efforts as vaccines and treatments.

Ugh.

[Meowmee]

32. Murderers all of them

Are people going to let them get away with it again?

Go to Canada or elsewhere if possible to get them. I think there is going to be a black market that will start up for vaccinations if it gets really bad.

[roamer65]

35. I'll just go over to Ontario.

Like a 40 min drive.

[DFW]

36. At least we can still get vaccinated here

Appointments are still cumbersome to arrange, but at least we don’t have a health minister acting like a shaman of some isolated stone age tribe on some forgotten island out in the Indian Ocean.

[Iris]

37. I did some digging and according to STAT, CDC and FDA attended the meeting virtually. There's still concern that because

data about flu virus in US stopped being reported in Jan., the WHO won't be able to as accurately make recommendations for our flu shots for next. year.

https://www.statnews.com/2025/02/24/us-who-flu-vaccine-meeting-london/

[CousinIT]

41. Thank you for that. VERY helpful. I've shared it

on Bluesky.