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Josh Marshall: There it is: Mike Johnson says Elon has already started running your Social Security through his AI. (Original Post) highplainsdem Sunday OP
Now watch as our benefits are slashed or we're thrown off. sakabatou Sunday #1
They're using an LLM, which hallucinates, so mistakes are inevitable. highplainsdem Sunday #2
Never mind that, he's not even making a minimal attempt to actually understand the data unblock Sunday #6
sending you a dm, hope that is ok mahina Sunday #14
"He's finding ... enormous amounts of fraud, waste, and abuse." unblock Sunday #3
+1 dalton99a Sunday #5
Haha! unblock Sunday #8
This doesn't make that musk as Scary Ugly Cha Sunday #17
Exactly. They are masters at sloganeering. CRT, DEI and now this tulipsandroses Sunday #15
"Enormous amounts of fraud, waste, and abuse" - but not ONE example dalton99a Sunday #4
what freaks me out most, is that he can run our ss #'s and home addresses AmandaRuth Sunday #12
The House Squeaker Mouse. Cha Sunday #18
And I have a beautiful bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Raftergirl Sunday #7
Good to know. Could you please ask him for more info and post about it here and maybe in an OP? I am curious. mahina Sunday #9
I'll ask him next time I talk to him, if I remember. Raftergirl Sunday #16
The very idea of Musk crawling thru our personal data literally makes me sick. Deuxcents Sunday #10
What a crock of shit Wiz Imp Sunday #11
I'm ignorant of the law but imagine this is a massive class action suit, hopefully right away! mahina Sunday #13

unblock

(54,678 posts)
6. Never mind that, he's not even making a minimal attempt to actually understand the data
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 02:43 PM
Sunday

It takes, at best, weeks of extensive research and conversations with users of a system to understand what each data element represents, what exceptions there are, etc.

I do this for a living. It's easy to get a quick answer that covers 98% of the data you see, but fully understanding all the cases in that last 2% takes a long time.

They don't care, they just call it fraud and claim victory.

unblock

(54,678 posts)
3. "He's finding ... enormous amounts of fraud, waste, and abuse."
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 02:38 PM
Sunday

More likely, he's finding enormous gaps in his understanding of what's going on and mislabeling it as fraud, waste, and abuse.

Cha

(307,933 posts)
17. This doesn't make that musk as Scary Ugly
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 05:33 PM
Sunday

as he is.

But, of course, they're All the Axis of Deranged Evil.

tulipsandroses

(6,860 posts)
15. Exactly. They are masters at sloganeering. CRT, DEI and now this
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 03:46 PM
Sunday

I'm waiting on a reporter to ask Johnson or any republican, what expertise does Musk have to take on this task?
They are going on and on about DEI - anyone they don't like did not earn their position. What experience does Elon have to earn this position?
He is not a forensic accountant. He has no experience in how govt works. He has no idea what he is looking at, therefore, how can he determine what is a waste, fraud or abuse??

AmandaRuth

(3,150 posts)
12. what freaks me out most, is that he can run our ss #'s and home addresses
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 03:22 PM
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and oops, for some unexplained reason, I didn't get my mail in ballot.

Also, this should come as no surprise, if you been following the wretched far right for the past, I don't know, 40 years, they have been pretty clear about wanted to do away with this "socialist" program.

Raftergirl

(1,609 posts)
7. And I have a beautiful bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 02:44 PM
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My kid works for a cybersecurity software company and he says AI is very dangerous, irt to security.

He has nothing to do with software development, it’s just a known fact in all of the cybersecurity sector.

mahina

(19,498 posts)
9. Good to know. Could you please ask him for more info and post about it here and maybe in an OP? I am curious.
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 02:56 PM
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I don't use it. I've never installed any of that and I understand it's necessary to learn it if I want to not get way behind, but my good friend who is getting his PhD send that he finally resorted to using AI to answer of query for a paper and found that most of what it wrote was not wrong, but it also threw in two studies that didn't actually exist. I guess that's what they call hallucinations

Everyone's busy and I don't mean to give you projects, but I am certainly interested to know more about what your son is saying about this. Thanks heaps anyway!

Wiz Imp

(3,954 posts)
11. What a crock of shit
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 03:14 PM
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It's nearly impossible for there to be massive amounts of fraud, waste & Abuse in Social security. The vast majority of expenditures are monthly payments to people who earned them through their contributions to SS while they were working. Before a person starts collecting SS, it is very thoroughly reviewed that the payments are accurate.

We already know the claims about dead people and people without valid SSNs are a lie. The system checks all that stuff and it isn't even complicated to do. I'm sure there is some small amount of fraud in SSDI but there is no way AI would ever capture that stuff.

They're making it all up (which most everybody at DU already knows). Notice they have identified no legitimate examples of fraud? When they they come up with an idea that they think might indicate fraud, it has taken about 2 seconds to explain why they have no idea what they are talking about.

mahina

(19,498 posts)
13. I'm ignorant of the law but imagine this is a massive class action suit, hopefully right away!
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 03:43 PM
Sunday
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