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dalton99a

(87,641 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 12:53 PM Friday

Hillary Clinton: How Much Dumber Will This Get?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/opinion/trump-hegseth-signal-chat.html

https://archive.ph/QmWfr

Hillary Clinton: How Much Dumber Will This Get?
March 28, 2025
By Hillary Clinton

Mrs. Clinton is a former secretary of state and United States senator and was the Democratic nominee for president in 2016.

It’s not the hypocrisy that bothers me; it’s the stupidity. We’re all shocked — shocked! — that President Trump and his team don’t actually care about protecting classified information or federal record retention laws. But we knew that already. What’s much worse is that top Trump administration officials put our troops in jeopardy by sharing military plans on a commercial messaging app and unwittingly invited a journalist into the chat. That’s dangerous. And it’s just dumb.

This is the latest in a string of self-inflicted wounds by the new administration that are squandering America’s strength and threatening our national security. Firing hundreds of federal workers charged with protecting our nation’s nuclear weapons is also dumb. So is shutting down efforts to fight pandemics just as a deadly Ebola outbreak is spreading in Africa. It makes no sense to purge talented generals, diplomats and spies at a time when rivals like China and Russia are trying to expand their global reach.

In a dangerous and complex world, it’s not enough to be strong. You must also be smart. As secretary of state during the Obama administration, I argued for smart power, integrating the hard power of our military with the soft power of our diplomacy, development assistance, economic might and cultural influence. None of those tools can do the job alone. Together, they make America a superpower. The Trump approach is dumb power. Instead of a strong America using all our strengths to lead the world and confront our adversaries, Mr. Trump’s America will be increasingly blind and blundering, feeble and friendless.

Let’s start with the military, because that’s what he claims to care about. Don’t let the swagger fool you. Mr. Trump and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth (of group chat fame) are apparently more focused on performative fights over wokeness than preparing for real fights with America’s adversaries. Does anyone really think deleting tributes to the Tuskegee Airmen makes us more safe? The Trump Pentagon purged images of the plane that dropped the atomic bomb that ended World War II because its name is the Enola Gay. Dumb.

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Hillary Clinton: How Much Dumber Will This Get? (Original Post) dalton99a Friday OP
Hillary is "over it" BrianTheEVGuy Friday #1
Hillary is also (AS ALWAYS) right! hamsterjill Friday #2
KnR Hekate Friday #3
It makes perfect sense if you are a Russian/Chinese asset. flashman13 Friday #4
if you are a Russian/Chinese asset ahlnord Friday #8
They want to distroy the government and valuable infastructure and sell off the rump to Russia. flashman13 Friday #13
A lot dumber IronLionZion Friday #5
It's not dumb; it's intentional alarimer Friday #6
Dear God she would have made a great President. calimary Friday #7
What might have been! Gimpyknee Friday #9
THat's our gurl - Hillary for the win. n/t iluvtennis Friday #10
How much dumber? All of it, at every conceivable opportunity 0rganism Friday #11
Kick! red dog 1 Friday #12
But she was Establishment, like Planned Parenthood. Oh, and status quo. betsuni Friday #14
This message was self-deleted by its author vapor2 Friday #15
Maggots to Hillary: "Hold my beer." Buns_of_Fire Friday #16
it's MAGAts Skittles Saturday #19
You're right. I apologize to genuine maggots and will Buns_of_Fire Saturday #20
I read about how an earth without maggots would look like Skittles Saturday #21
Still with HER!!! Sparkly Saturday #17
"Mrs. Clinton" Skittles Saturday #18
I'm not happy about this editorial. returnee Saturday #22

hamsterjill

(15,721 posts)
2. Hillary is also (AS ALWAYS) right!
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 03:01 PM
Friday

God, what could have been!!!!

Fucking morons who support(ed) Trump. I hate every last one of them for taking my future away.

ahlnord

(103 posts)
8. if you are a Russian/Chinese asset
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 03:32 PM
Friday

THIS!!! This is the explanation that ties together the big picture -- weakening our security, government, economy, education, health, etc. -- ALL OF IT. Every decision Trump has taken has weakened us, and benefited Putin. It is a "no brainer."

flashman13

(1,100 posts)
13. They want to distroy the government and valuable infastructure and sell off the rump to Russia.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:54 PM
Friday

IronLionZion

(48,237 posts)
5. A lot dumber
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 03:06 PM
Friday

I worry about how dumb things can get. Probably much dumber than any of us can imagine.

alarimer

(17,061 posts)
6. It's not dumb; it's intentional
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 03:18 PM
Friday

They simply do not care about the rules that other administrations have abided by

It's all just a fucking game to these assholes. They are GLAD the world is mad at us. It's what they want. You can't really even insult them; they revel in our hatred and ridicule. "Cry more, libs" is pretty much the standard response.

calimary

(85,617 posts)
7. Dear God she would have made a great President.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 03:27 PM
Friday

A brilliant, open-minded, compassionate, fact-friendly, and historically magnificent President.

A bold and decisive President who broke the last glass ceiling into little shards and slivers.

A President America could - and would - have been so proud and so deserving and so blessed to have.

Sometimes I could almost cry.

0rganism

(24,935 posts)
11. How much dumber? All of it, at every conceivable opportunity
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 03:47 PM
Friday

Futurecasting is becoming simpler - for any given national dilemma, just ask yourself "what would greedy stupid people do? " and you'll be well on your way to predicting the outcome.

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Buns_of_Fire

(18,273 posts)
16. Maggots to Hillary: "Hold my beer."
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 09:45 PM
Friday

Now we're seeing what happens when two black holes (Krasnov and Musk) come close to each other.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,273 posts)
20. You're right. I apologize to genuine maggots and will
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 02:46 AM
Saturday

no longer insult them with the comparison.

returnee

(468 posts)
22. I'm not happy about this editorial.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 12:46 PM
Saturday

Her theme is “Trump’s actions are ‘dumb’.” Well, of course aTSF is dumb, and his actions are ‘dumb’ if looked at from the perspective of what’s good for The US. However, if looked at from the perspective of a Russian asset of Putin causing the destabilization of the US, well, not so dumb after all.

It bugs the crap out of me that she does not address what she knows as well as we do, something that needs to be more central in the American people’s understanding of the situation.

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