Can he actually send troops to Greenland and no one will stop him?

[question everything]

I suppose his Congress will give him any approval needed..

No difference between him and his twin Putin

[snowybirdie]

1. NATO

may have something to say about that.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

13. Mainly just something to say

NATO depends on the US for pretty much all major logistics. NATO without the US would have a difficult time reaching Greenland with any significant amount of equipment, let alone protect their supply lines from continental Europe.

[Initech]

47. I wish NATO would do something about this nightmare.

[Lovie777]

2. What?............

[hlthe2b]

3. NATO crisis--if Denmark requests under Article V, it could be a dramatic showdown--our allies against

what s left of our country...

[Meowmee]

4. I don't know

I hope he can’t. I don’t think R are going to stop him though. It’s just more insanity each day. 😣

[WarGamer]

5. odd fantasy... will never happen outside of a cheap novel

[question everything]

6. He constantly say that he wants Greenland whether they want it or not

Vice President JD Vance spent his time in Greenland doubling down on the Trump administration’s threats to take the territory from Denmark.

“Our message to Denmark is very simple,” Vance said at a press conference in Greenland on Friday. “You have not done a good job by the people of Greenland, you have underinvested in the people of Greenland, and you have underinvested in the security architecture of this incredible, beautiful land mass filled with incredible people. That has to change.

“The president said we have to have Greenland, and I think that we do have to be more serious about the security of Greenland,” Vance continued. “We respect the self-determination of the people of Greenland, but my argument to them is: I think that you’d be a lot better coming under the United States’ security umbrella than you have been under Denmark’s security umbrella. Because what Denmark’s security umbrella has meant is effectively they’ve passed it all off to brave Americans and hoped that we would pick up the tab

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jd-vance-threatens-greenland-visit-203444356.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

[WarGamer]

7. Well he lies.

He also tells people TT has the best views of Central Park and calls himself a genius.

[Irish_Dem]

9. Trump is mentally ill drug addict with dementia.

He is a ruthless psychopath who works for Putin.

Underestimate him at your own peril.

[elocs]

33. Sadly, when it comes to Trump, we on the Left were not vigilant, but complacent and over confident.

Now we are paying the price for that.
What is bad is that all those nutjob maga cultists are getting the last laugh.

[yardwork]

37. Well, when you put it that way...

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

14. Yep, fantasy

As is any serious thought that the European militaries can project any meaningful force outside of the Europe without US assistance, in the short term at least.

[Emile]

8. Did Germany stop Hitler from evading Poland?

[Tree Lady]

16. I guess the question then is

who was Poland's allies back then? From my reading it looks like Germany just swept them up with almost no resistance from Polish armies that weren't as strong.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

23. The UK and France were Polands allies

Neither were in any position to actually do anything substantial to help Poland.

[question everything]

42. The UK joined the war upon Hitler invasion. It did not help Poland at the time but eventually stopped him

over taking all of Europe. With our help. I hate to think this country position if Europe is in danger again.

[anciano]

10. Interesting question 🤔....

that would be uncharted waters.

[Norrrm]

11. What would be the status of the Greenlanders?

... and then what? Make them a state?

Or just a piece of property with some nuisance inhabitants?

Dubya chose Gitmo because the prisoners would supposedly not have the same legal rights as if they were actually in America.

What would be the status of the Greenlanders?

[milestogo]

17. Its hard to imagine they would not defend themselves in some way

and that other countries would not come forward to defend them.

It would be incredibly stupid to call their bluff.

[Norrrm]

18. Oh, I agree. But, what is the Trump/Vance plan for them? More flights to El Salvadore?

[Progressive dog]

28. I imagine Trump intends to

deport the greenlanders to Denmark.

[Arazi]

45. Iirc, 90% of Greenlands population are indigenous Inuit

That’s their ancestral homeland. Fairly sure Traitor will have to kill them all before they’d ever contemplate leaving

[unblock]

12. The western world would isolate the United States. Seriously cut back on trade.

Economic sanctions. We are majorly intertwined in global trade and the blowback would throw us into an epic contraction.

Europe understands fascism better than we do, and they will *not* stand for a predatory America.

[ILikePie92]

15. I agree with 12 Unblock

Also, Europe has a more pressing issue than the orange idiot sending troops to Greenland.......Putin.
Europe having to deal with the US and Russia.....may be Putins dream

[TomSlick]

19. I would hope that no Commanding General (CG) would obey such a patently illegal order.

If I was the JAG for a CG receiving an order from Trump or DoD to invade Greenland, I would give a written legal opinion that the order was illegal - listing all the reasons the order is illegal. (If I was the JAG for any combatant command, I would already have a draft of the opinion ready to go.) I would advise the CG that it was their duty to refuse the order, in writing, stating all the reasons the order is illegal. (I would have the refusal already drafted and ready to be dated and signed.) I would advise the CG that they would be subject to court-martial, when Trump leaves office (one way or the other) if they do not refuse the order and that the SCOTUS created presidential immunity would not protect them.

Finally, I would inform the CG that I had forwarded the legal opinion up the JAG technical chain and mailed a copy to myself in case it became necessary to prove that I had rendered the opinion in the future - at their court-martial or mine.

Surely, someone at DoD has warned Trump and Hegseth that orders to invade Greenland would likely be refused.

[question everything]

20. Thank you. Is there anyone at the DoD, or the AG offices still left to render such an alert?

[TomSlick]

22. I've been retired for a few years and don't know the current JAG leadership.

Until there is evidence to the contrary, I assume that all the JAG leadership, in every service, will live up to their oaths as officers.

[artemisia1]

25. Same as they did during the Invasion of Iraq? /nt

[question everything]

41. Iraq was authorized in Congress and I am afraid that this Congress will do the same

[TomSlick]

43. That was not as clear.

The military intelligence folks were SURE there were WMDs in Iraq and it posed a risk to the region. Iraq is not a NATO ally. There was never any plan to annex Iraq.

The invasion of Iraq was probably illegal but not patently so.

The comparison is like apples to pears. Similar but not the same.

[Scrivener7]

26. BUT - didn't he purge the military of anyone who would do that?

[yardwork]

38. You mean Pete Hegseth?

[Emile]

21. For more info join Hegseth signal group chat

at 10 pm eastern.

[underpants]

27. It's Saturday. I think it's having technical difficulties

[Tickle]

24. A lot is going to happen in the

next 4 years. Trump doesn't care, he's going to do whatever he wants. If the supreme Court does not stop him, we won't recognize this country in 4 years. Doesn't matter if we take over the house. That big Bill they are going to pass, probably after Easter, will allow tRump to do whatever he wants.

[birdographer]

31. I would be very, very surprised if he is still on this side of the grass

in four years. First, he seems ill—hand bruises from some sort of IV and weight loss (like he cares or is going to change his diet, so I doubt it is purposeful). Also advancing cognitive decline and he is already being bypassed by his whole regime—he didn’t even know what Signal IS, never mind how it was used, never mind being looped into those plans. If nobody comes along to put us out of our misery, he will either succumb to something or be 25th out in less than 4 years. I’d bet on it. The bad news is that that changes nothing. Whatever Pootie, Elmo, and Stephen Miller want, they will get. With Vance nodding his toadie head in the background and saying stupid things.

[sop]

29. Two months ago I would have laughed at the idea of Trump invading Greenland. Today I'm not laughing.

Trump and his henchmen are systematically dismantling all the guardrails found in a functioning democracy. These people are literally killing our American democracy just so they can do whatever they want with no one to stop them.

Scott Cummings, UCLA law professor, on where we are today: "To understand what action to take requires clarity about the democratic assault now being advanced with brutal efficiency against the United States. Trump and his legal team have carefully studied how democracies die. And they have learned the key lesson: democratic backsliding occurs when elected leaders claim a mandate to erode the pillars of democracy—free and fair elections, fundamental rights, and checks and balances—to enlarge executive power."

"The 'autocratic legal playbook' is the strategic roadmap to this consolidation. The targets are well-established: capture the courts; erase internal pockets of independence within the public bureaucracy; silence sources of free thought and expression in universities, civil society, and the media; replace independent public prosecutors and government lawyers with loyalists; and disable legal resistance by coopting law firms and the professional bar."

[David__77]

30. I highly doubt Denmark would militarily oppose the US.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of appeasement toward the US under Trump. This might change.

[snot]

32. We and our leaders have been acquiescing in executive excesses ever since 9-11;

see, e.g., https://consortiumnews.com/2025/03/28/trumps-rule-by-fiat-a-bipartisan-legacy/ :

After the attacks on the Twin Towers, Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), which gave the executive branch sweeping powers to pursue terrorism around the world. That one document has served as the legal scaffolding for 20-plus years of undeclared wars and covert operations in Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan and elsewhere. No further congressional approval was needed. The public never had a say. The war powers clause of the Constitution became symbolic — if not obsolete.

Former President Barack Obama inherited that framework and expanded it. His administration developed the now-infamous drone kill list, justified targeted assassinations (including of U.S. citizens) and defended the government’s right to indefinitely detain terrorism suspects without trial. Obama didn’t officially suspend habeas corpus, but in practice, he upheld a system that made the writ meaningless for hundreds of detainees held at Bagram and Guantánamo. The position of his Department of Justice was clear: The executive has the authority to detain and kill, beyond judicial oversight, because we are at war.

* * * * *
Trump is now openly talking about “eradicating” the Houthis in Yemen — an aggressive military escalation that directly contradicts the MAGA-era promise of no new foreign wars. ...And once again, no one’s talking about congressional approval.

This is the cycle we’re caught in. Trump exposes the tools others helped create. He strips them of their moral veneer, revealing the ugly core. And rather than confront the system itself, liberals point at Trump as a singular villain — as if everything was working just fine before he came along.

The truth is harder to face: If we want to stop the next Trump, or the next expansion of executive lawlessness, we can’t keep pretending he came out of nowhere. We need to reckon with the fact that our democracy has been undermined from within.... We need to challenge not just the man, but the machine.

[question everything]

44. Thank you for the detailed exposure

The difference, of course, is that previously we attacked the “bad guys” which were often parts of civil wars. But Denmark?

I still hold it against Obama for threatening Syria about “crossing a red line” but doing nothing when that red line was crossed, again and again. The reason, of course. was that it was part of a civil war, there were several factions and it was not clear which group deserved our support.

[snot]

46. Imho,

fwiw, it's still not clear which if any Syrian factions deserve(d) our support, or why we're in Syria at all, except for the fact that we're still controlling some of their oil fields and, I presume, acting partly in support of Israel.

And if we care(d) about "red lines," we should have halted our support for the genocide in Gaza long ago.

[Dem4life1970]

34. If he has a heart, deep in his heart of hearts...

Shady Vance knows this is all very, very stupid. Greenland? Really? That's the best idea they can come up with? Apparently yes, because they have *no idea* how to lower prices, and they don't care. So deflect, distract, deflect.

It's the last U.S. base there (the other 16 have been closed).

[sop]

39. "After arriving at the base, the vice president told troops in the mess hall he was surprised to find the snow

and ice-covered Arctic island is 'cold as shit....Nobody told me!' he added." Maybe Trump and JD should wait till the weather warms up a bit for their invasion.

[Bmoboy]

35. There are Amarican troops in Greenland already

The Space Force! 150 Spacemen and an airport.

And the consulate in Nuuk probably has a Marine detachment.

"Just sending advisors and security for the US base." 82nd Airborne?

[Diraven]

40. They'll probably do something really dumb

Like Trump will order 10000 troops to land at that airbase, which is nowhere near the capital or where most people actually live in Greenland, and then just declare it's been conquered and is ours now because we have more troops there and Greenland and Denmark can't force them to leave.

[Easterncedar]

36. Remember Grenada

So many medals won