JD Vance is a real monster.

[milestogo]

Its hard to imagine how anyone would vote for him.

Its hard to imagine how anyone would marry him.

He's hostile and abrasive. He is blunt and arrogant when talking to foreign dignitaries. Does he really think that Greenland will be bullied into subservience? He is as bad as TSF.

When I look at him all I see is cruelty.



TSF is a horrible president. JD Vance would be at least as horrible.

[SheltieLover]

1. Yes

And her .. she is equally as revolting.

[milestogo]

2. I can only imagine her as a hostage.

[Woodwizard]

4. Hey plenty of women are evil.

They don't deserve a pass if they are participating in the process. One of the worst obnoxious magas I know is a 50 year old woman. She is incredibly toxic.

[FSogol]

7. Except she supported his "they're eating the pets" fabulism

She's as awful as her husband.

[SheltieLover]

8. Her a hostage?

Shit, they would pay anyone to take her back.

[paleotn]

25. May be, but probably more like "birds of a feather"

[DENVERPOPS]

61. Or,

low IQ, subservient hand maiden...............

[paleotn]

69. Honestly, they're all kind of low IQ.

Some lower than others I guess.

[Dave Id]

28. Hostage?

Didn't we go through this BS with 'poor' Melania? She turned out not to be any better person than her chubby hubbie.

[littlemissmartypants]

37. She's not a hostage. That's a fact. ....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220177098

[DENVERPOPS]

62. Try imagining

her husband, only a heart beat away from the Presidency..................Ol' Lardass, feasting on McDonalds and Kentucky Fried is living on extremely short and borrowed time..............not sure of who appoints a VP in a case like that, but it will be Musk for sure...Putin will see to it......

[GaYellowDawg]

70. Then you're pretty short on imagination

Not to mention information. She and JD met at a radical right-wing meeting. She's as bad as he is. She's Marjorie Taylor Green's sister from another mother. There are plenty of Republican women who are fucking sociopaths.

[Mc Mike]

3. He's a super glib, lawyerly liar.

He has the fakiest laugh.

[milestogo]

6. And didn't he used to despise TSF?

Funny how money changes everything.

[Mc Mike]

11. Used to compare him to Hitler; nowadays,

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he says that's verboten, and anyone doing so outrages him.

[BonnieJW]

23. Vance is like a piece of clay

He can be molded into any shape Peter thiel and putin wants

[ShazzieB]

48. Yep, he's a great big phony.

If I was a political cartoonist, I'd drawn Vance as a ventriloquist's dummy sitting on Schlump's lap.

[uponit7771]

5. JD Vance advocated for reparations for Red Lining at one tine, that Epstein file is HUGE!!

[Beringia]

9. He looks like he has no substance at all

Wishful thinking, but it seems these people will fold easily at some point

[Ocelot II]

10. Vance is an empty suit. Whatever ideas or ideologies he might hold

vary considerably with his circumstances. His current persona is apparently that of Trump's enforcer, as he seems to be trying to reinforce his asshole bona fides to establish that he's just as mean and soulless as his boss. Of course, cosplaying an asshole to ingratiate himself with the Big Asshole means he is actually an asshole; he's just an asshole without any principles or purposes at all other than pure ambition. He is likely counting on the possibility that Satan will call Trump home before the end of his term, and he wants to establish himself as Powerful! and Mighty! so Trump's MAGA cult will accept him as the inevitable replacement in 2028. That will be a hard sell, since Vance lacks the evil but apparently compelling charisma that created the cult in the first place; nobody likes him. He's creepy and not good at demagoguery, and his fundamental phoniness oozes from every pore. I think that when Trump is finally out of the picture there will be a huge power struggle in the GOP, and Vance will lose.

[InstantGratification]

20. Agreed

he's just an asshole without any principles or purposes at all other than pure ambition. He is likely counting on the possibility that Satan will call Trump home before the end of his term

I've said several times that he views Trump as his express ticket to the top. He sees Trump's age and ill health as clearly as we do. Think about it, 2 years ago, he was a political outsider, having never held elected office. Then he relentlessly kissed Trump's ass to get that Senate endorsement. Less than 2 years into his first term as an elected official, he kissed more ass to get tapped to be the VP candidate. He probably wants Trump to make it just past the mid point of the term so that it doesn't count as a full term for him. He would still be eligible for 2 full terms after finishing Trump's term.

he wants to establish himself as Powerful! and Mighty! so Trump's MAGA cult will accept him as the inevitable replacement in 2028. That will be a hard sell

He won't be worried much about selling it to MAGA at that point. He will be working for his handlers, people like Peter Thiel, Leonard Leo and the rest of the Oligarchs and Theocrats who want to remake American government in their ChristoFacist image.

[jmowreader]

58. You're assuming Vance and Satan are not in allegiance on this

JD Vance is the kinda guy who would season Trump's hamberders with thallium then bribe the medical examiner to not run a toxicology screen on the corpse.

[Kid Berwyn]

12. Couched in mystery with rich friends who are evil as all hell.

Read J.D. Vance’s Violent Foreword to Project 2025 Leader’s New Book

Trump’s running mate writes that “it’s time to circle the wagons and load the muskets.”

by Alex Shephard
The New republic, July 30, 2024

Donald Trump has been desperate lately to distance himself from Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation’s radical plan to remake the federal government under his presidency. “I have no idea who is behind it,” he said in early July about the plan, which would replace thousands of federal workers with partisan loyalists, ban abortion, and disband the Department of Education. A couple of weeks later, he said of the people behind Project 2025, “They are extreme, they’re seriously extreme, but I don’t know anything about it.”

But between those two denials, on July 15, Trump made a decision that undercuts his claim to have no knowledge of Project 2025: He picked Senator J.D. Vance as his running mate.

Vance has deep ties to the Heritage Foundation, and in particular to Kevin Roberts, who has been president of the right-wing think tank since 2021 and is the architect of Project 2025. Vance has praised Roberts for helping to turn the organization “into the de facto institutional home of Trumpism” and has endorsed elements of Project 2025. Vance is also the author of the foreword to Roberts’s upcoming book, Dawn’s Early Light, which The New Republic has obtained in full even though the book’s publisher, HarperCollins’s Broadside Books, has apparently tried to suppress it amid the scrutiny of Project 2025 and Vance’s ties to Roberts.

The subtitle and cover of Roberts’s book were softened as scrutiny of the Trump campaign’s ties to Project 2025 grew. The book, which is scheduled to be published on September 24, was originally announced with the subtitle “Burning Down Washington to Save America” and featured a match on the center of its cover. The subtitle is now “Taking Back Washington to Save America,” and the match is nowhere to be seen. Promotional language invoking conservatives on the “warpath” to “burn down … institutions” like the FBI, the Department of Justice, and universities has also been removed or toned down, though it is still present in some sales pages.

But the inspiration for that extreme language can be found in Vance’s foreword, which ends with a call for followers to “circle the wagons and load the muskets,” and describes Roberts’s ideas as an “essential weapon” in the “fights that lay [sic] ahead.” (The New Republic downloaded Dawn’s Early Light earlier this month from NetGalley, which provides advance copies of books to reviewers and booksellers. Copies were removed from the platform earlier this month.)

SNIP...

Vance’s foreword is also, notably, a call for revolution. “The old conservative movement argued if you just got government out of the way, natural forces would resolve problems,” he writes. “We are no longer in this situation and must take a different approach.” That is where the muskets come in:

Continues...

https://newrepublic.com/article/184393/jd-vance-violent-foreword-kevin-roberts-project-2025-leader-book

For a NAZI Yale lawyer, Vance don't write that good.

[no_hypocrisy]

13. Usha impresses me as someone like my mother.

Got married to someone who intentionally misrepresented himself to her and found out soon who he really was.

My mom was conned and so was Usha.

[617Blue]

14. She's a movement right winger who clerked under Cavanaugh and Roberts

not sure why people think she's not on board with all of this.

[no_hypocrisy]

15. True, but that may be irrelevant to poor personal choices.

Magda Goebbels thought she was entering a wonderful marriage with Josef. He openly engaged in infidelity to the point where Hitler had to tell him to cut it out.

I'm pretty sure on her wedding day, Magda didn't consider that she would kill their six children and then herself upon the fall of the Third Reich.

Again, poor personal choices.

[Cirsium]

27. Picking the wrong man?

Does poor personal choices merely mean picking the wrong man?

[no_hypocrisy]

30. It can be included, yes.

Marry the wrong person and your life can be doomed.

[CTyankee]

73. And real smart. Yale College and Yale Law grad.

[SkylineChili]

29. She's not a victim or a dupe

She is completely on board. She clerked for MAGAT judges. Not sure why anyone thinks she is an innocent bystander.

[SheltieLover]

50. This!!! 👆👆👆👆👆

[Shermann]

16. One redeeming quality might be that he is seemingly a Game of Thrones fan.

His attempt to make Zelenskyy bend the knee in his throne room can't be explained any other way.

I'm grasping at straws to find something positive to say here.

[yorkster]

24. Nothing positive there at all, I'm afraid..

[regnaD kciN]

52. Agreed...

I never say the appeal of GoT, except for Jonathan Pie’s summary of said appeal as “dragons…and tits!”

A politician liking a show of brutal nihilism where might makes right and pretty much everyone in power, of whatever side, turns out to be cynically amoral is not a sign that the aforementioned politician will be a good leader for this country.

[twodogsbarking]

17. That's why he has the job. That's what they want.

[Nasruddin]

21. Puzzling though

He's unsellable as president.
This deficiency maybe it wasn't obvious before the campaign (he was a poor Senate candidate albeit victor).
It has to have occurred to the powers that be by now.

[Mr. Evil]

18. They've all mastered the art

of creating criminals without a single shred of evidence.

[bronxiteforever]

19. People forget but should NEVER forget

that he personally fueled the bloody slur on Haitian immigrants eating cats and dogs. He helped terrorize a community of hardworking refugees seekers. For that alone, he is the enemy of human kindness. Challenged on CNN for promoting a tale for which there was no evidence, Vance was unrepentant.

“If I have to create stories so that the American media pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do,” he said.

Pray to the universe or whatever god or greater power of your choice but pray this creature never becomes President.

[OneGrassRoot]

22. Serial killer vibes. n/t

[Demovictory9]

26. Yeah..remember the arrogant way he talked about childless women

[milestogo]

33. He goes out of his way to alienate large groups of people

and then he thinks they are going to vote for him.

[Conjuay]

31. I would love to see a cage match

Between Vance and Desantis.
Although it seems the entire Republican bench is deranged.

[True Blue American]

32. J D would be worse.

You would think he would have some sympathy for those less fortunate with his druggie Moter, but he has none.

[vanlassie]

65. Between his druggie Mother and his

Grannie-who-set-her-husband-on-fire on-purpose this guy is well and truly fucked up.

[Jean Genie]

34. JD

Plus he has a horribly unappealing "pubic chin." Ick!

[Martin Eden]

35. These rightwing creatures have bottled up their hatred for decades

Now they are relishing the opportunity to let it out.

Not that they haven't spewed their vile hate continuously, but now they control the entire US government.

All the guardrails within the Felon's first administration are gone, and they've been chomping at the bit for the current onslaught since the failed coup attempt.

[AdamGG]

36. I had hoped that at least he might be less sold out to Putin than Shitler

Then that disgusting tag team bullying of Zelensky quickly disabused me of that notion.

But, he does wear a suit (and eye liner).

[wryter2000]

38. Amen

I had assumed his wife would be better. But now that she's tried bullying Greenland, she seems to fit in with the rest of them.

[JPPaverage]

39. When i was in high school

I ran with a bit of a "rougher" crowd and Vance is the kind of guy I may have punched just because he has that kind of look. The kind that says, "Punch me, I'm an arrogant asshole."
I will say that the allegedly rougher crowd I hung out with were all working class people and as far as I know, none of us ever ended up in jail.

[3catwoman3]

40. Is there anyone in the line of succession who doesn't suck?

Not so far as I can tell.

[Sogo]

41. TMV: Trump/Musk/Vance, a triumvirate of monsters leading this country.

nt

[WarGamer]

42. So... he's a little mini-Trump with a beard and Military background.

Probably just like they intended.

[Mysterian]

45. "Military background" LMAO

Four years as a remf.

[WarGamer]

46. better than bone spurs or deferment.

[Norrrm]

54. The Little Corporal

[IbogaProject]

43. Worse, even less charisma

And for all his myriad of faults tRumpus at least occasionally is aware and cares how he appears. JD seems to not have that kind of self awareness and he certainly scares me more as he seems even less human.

[Iris]

47. But as the kids say, he has no rizz

[Skittles]

49. he's trying to soften up Greenland for the invasion

he is one sick POS but then, that is why he was picked as VP

[PCB66]

71. One thing that stands out

is that in his speech he did not exclude military intervention. It was a blatant omission.

[NoMoreRepugs]

51. He is trash personified.

[Klarkashton]

53. And he has no sense of humor. He is a boring ass.

[yorkster]

55. He scolded Denmark just like he scolded Zelenskyy.

Insufferable arrogant boor. And that's the least of it.

[No Vested Interest]

56. An educated fool.

He lives about 3 miles from me, but is a carpetbagger. Only moved back to his native state to run for Senate; i.e., he's not one of us.

[LT Barclay]

57. I think in The States, we have been insulated from how horrible humans can actually be. We view Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot

as anomolies when they are not. There is a vein in the human genome that sees others as only a means to an end that the life of another person is not worth a moments thought.
I'm am going to start listing a few examples and maybe others can add to it. I try to not interest myself in the depths of human depravity so my list is very short:

All Standing: The Remarkable Story of the Jeanie Johnston, The Legendary Irish Famine Ship by Kathryn Miles
You will be appalled by the callousness with which the Irish were treated
Rob Roy (movie with Liam Neeson and Jessica Lange) I know it is fictionalized and I know it is an acting part, but I don't think I'll ever be able to tolerate looking at Tim Roth again

[MissB]

59. But he wouldn't be popular with the MAGAs

I see no downside to Trump stepping down.

[Buttoneer]

60. I don't think Vance can hold the Magats.

[Dulcinea]

63. Agreed.

VD Jance has neither the salesmanship nor the ability to sway a crowd that the Fascist Felon has. He may think he's the heir apparent, but the Magats don't worship him & never will. Pretender to the throne all the way.

[PortTack]

64. He killed his political career by becoming vp. Unlike other vps whose careers died following the end of their tenure

He has shown ppl who he is. And OMG it ain’t pretty.

[marble falls]

66. And he's hard on sofas and couches.

[2naSalit]

67. I think he's the...

Bad built, bleach blond... of the administration.

[BigmanPigman]

68. Sometimes when I read OPs too fast my mind makes me laugh

Tonight I initially thought I read that Vance is a real "mother" as in "mother-fucker". I think he definitely fits into both categories. Alliteration is good, too...Vance is a "monster mother-fucker".

[lark]

72. Question - who is 4th in line for the presidency?

TSF dying is a recurrent great dream of mine, but having Vance take his place or Moses would be equally unacceptable. So who is next after Johnson?

[OldBaldy1701E]

74. No one has to vote for him.

Once that orange gibbon strokes out, J.D. Vance, who will become 'J.C.' Vance once instilled in office, will be large and in charge.

And, you thought that the pseudo-evangelical worship of that orange gibbon was bad.