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gab13by13

(27,325 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 11:16 AM Saturday

Rachel Maddow Said This last Night

Paraphrasing: When you fight, sometimes you lose. When you don't fight, you always lose.

I thought about what she said in relation to SignalGate, which Malcolm Nantz calls the greatest security threat in our nation's history.

It just seems to me that Democrats need to have a unified message that they repeat over and over again. Magats are getting away with comparing this to Hillary's emails. Magats are using their personal phones to communicate government business on Signal and then the communication self-deletes which is a crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

Magats have been doing this for 2 months and I suspect they will keep doing it.

My canary in the coal mine is the reaction from DU. I guess we need to move on from the greatest security threat in our nation's history.

WTH eh? It's almost golfing season. I will keep donating to Indivisible and Democrats like Bernie and AOC who are fighting and doing town halls, because it is up to us, the people, to throw out the billionaires.

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Rachel Maddow Said This last Night (Original Post) gab13by13 Saturday OP
Kate Riga, TPM: sop Saturday #1
I doubt that 2% of DU members gab13by13 Saturday #2
What was in Project 2025's plans? To use insecure communticatons for classified info? Amaryllis Saturday #5
There can't be a unified message unless they are unified. Magoo48 Saturday #3
Then we have the likes of a Newsom poli-junkie Saturday #4

sop

(13,362 posts)
1. Kate Riga, TPM:
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 11:25 AM
Saturday

"The story of National Security Adviser Mike Walz’s unbelievable SNAFU in adding an Atlantic journalist to a Signal group chat where top government officials spelled out their live-action war plans actually seems to be breaking through."

"Some combination of the utter buffoonery, text screengrabs and the 21st century of it all has given the story staying power. It’s showing up in polls, data, even online ad campaigns."

"The ephemeral news cycle got prolonged life, too, when the Trump administration both attacked the journalist and dismissed the contents of the conversation as unimportant and unclassified, prompting The Atlantic to call the officials’ bluff and release the texts in a followup story."

"For Democrats, it was manna from heaven, falling right into their laps. Some, including House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), called for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to be fired. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL) trolled Republicans with a blown-up version of emojis Walz used in the chat held aloft at a committee hearing. Unelecteds got in on the action too, Pete Buttigieg making a viral TikTok lambasting those involved."

"Democrats, much to the base’s chagrin, haven’t failed to make stories of Trump’s malfeasance break through as much as they’ve shied away from trying. Shrugging at the callousness of the American people and the speed of the news cycle, they haven’t put themselves in the driver’s seat of a Trump scandal."

"Democrats lack committee chairmanships and an enormous media apparatus dedicated to spreading their PR and propaganda. But that does not make them powerless. They could try to put a Benghazi-like tail on this thing, holding shadow hearings, campaigning for firings or resignations, making Republican-like hay out of the administration’s endangerment of the troops. As this story proves, Democrats are as bad as the rest of us at knowing which particular story will resonate outside of political circles."

"Will they sink their teeth into this one, using what power they have to sling it around the administration’s neck? Or will they content themselves with a glancing blow, hoping, as the news cycle trudges on, that Trump will again screw up in a salient way, freeing them to just sit back and wait?"

gab13by13

(27,325 posts)
2. I doubt that 2% of DU members
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 11:46 AM
Saturday

know who the DNC chairman is.

Krasnov and Vance have both publicly said that Denmark and Canada have not been good allies. Soldiers from Denmark and Canada fought and died helping us in Iraq and Afghanistan. If Democrats can't control these 2 narratives that tells me they aren't trying, aren't fighting, as Rachel put it.

It wasn't a SNAFU using Signal, it is right in Project 2025's plans. I know you meant the SNAFU was including Goldberg.

Magoo48

(6,137 posts)
3. There can't be a unified message unless they are unified.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 01:27 PM
Saturday

Some are fighting like champions and many aren’t. That’s not unified.

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