I just watched a video from a gentleman in Florida. He said DeSantis went to Montana

[dugog55]

and Wyoming to drum up support for a Constitutional Convention. I believe 34 States have to sign on to have a Convention and 38 States are needed to approve any changes. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

If they do manage to have a convention, the entire Constitution could be rewritten and our County would no longer have elections and possible an entirely new set of laws. It would be like starting from zero with a wholly formed nation. While perhaps far fetched, I am sure the Heritage Foundation has researched this thoroughly and would not commit to starting it if they did think they had a chance to push it through.

I do not think we can take this lightly after seeing the havoc Trump has caused and gotten away with in just 60 days. Less than four months ago I wrote here that Biden should sign an EO relieving student borrowers of all accumulated interest on their loans. Just wiping it off the board, then refinancing all the loans at 3%. That would help millions of students without costing the taxpayers a penny. That idea was met with a chorus of how EO's don't work that way, and Biden does not have a magic wand. Well, it certainly appears the Trump has a magic club with every dirty little trick he has pulled so far. Honestly, did anyone here think that Trump could manage to do the amount of harm in just two short months? And how he gets away with most of it? Sure some EO's are tied up in lower courts, but that is just temporary. Johnson already has hinted about just eliminating the courts that have been blocking Trumps agenda. And the Supreme Court surely can't be counted on to do the right thing. I have never felt so deflated about the proceedings of this country in my 52 adult years. This is certainly not the environment I wanted to live the last years of my life. I also have three children and four grandchildren that have a long life ahead of them. I would prefer it was in a sane America and not some Third World dictatorship.

[SARose]

1. Rocky Mountain High: Ron DeSantis heads to Idaho, Montana to push Balanced Budget Amendment

He is pushing for a Balanced Budget on the federal level.
On Monday, Gov. Ron DeSantis is headed to Idaho and Montana, where he will hold news conferences with Governors Brad Little and Greg Gianforte.

The press advisory from the Governor’s Office omitted details about why he’s going. However, Idaho News 6 reports that the Florida Governor will push for a Balanced Budget Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as part of the Balanced Budget Campaign supported by all Republican Governors.

KTXB reports he will be in Idaho for a so-called “informal rally aimed at state legislators” between 8 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. The press conference in Idaho is slated for 9:30 a.m. Mountain Time, while the Montana event (presumably covering the same topic) is scheduled for 1:45 MT.

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Only link I could find without paywall. Someone is trying to stay relevant.

[Ol Janx Spirit]

4. So he's trying to put tax increases on the obscenely wealthy at a federal level. Sweet. Yeah, I know; I know....

this will be framed as something that will force budget cuts and fiscal responsibility from the federal government, but let's face it: if suddenly faced with such a massive budget undertaking at the federal level almost every politician would do the math and realize that there is only one way to achieve this goal and keep their jobs since the top .1% only get a handful of votes between them.

[groundloop]

18. True, but that top 0.1% can buy a shit ton of media exposure for spreading their lies.....

on top of buying politicians.

[Initech]

2. Why the absolute fucking hell is a constitutional convention necessary? WTAF!

It's like these idiots spend all day intentionally thinking of the wrong answer to every question!

[bluestarone]

3. Looks like they have something up their sleeves?

Could they pull of a change in our constitution? Holy Fuck!!

[haele]

5. I used to work around one of those 7 Mountains Dominionist types.

This was back in the '90's. Also in Amway, FWIW.

He would occasionally comment that when "they" got enough States in line, they would re-write the Constitution the way Gawd intended, teach all those foolish liberals what real life should be and get them in line. Then this country would really be free and great and everyone would be happy in their proper place.

It's been quietly on the back burner for a couple decades.

[SharonAnn]

22. Yes, I've known about this movement for more than 20 years.

[SharonAnn]

21. They want to REPLACE our constitution with theirs.

[thomski64]

14. Why bother to change document that..

..they are wiping their asses with.
Or, rather, with which they wipe their asses, if proper grammar still exists

[Blue Full Moon]

20. That's their end game

[Wiz Imp]

6. Stopping a Dangerous Article V Convention

How far are we from an Article V Convention?
Right now, there are four major campaigns for an Article V Convention: the Balanced Budget Amendment (BBA) campaign, the Convention of States (COS) campaign, the Wolf-PAC campaign, and the term limits campaign.

Each has different goals, but together, they have convinced 28 states to call for a convention. That means they have just six states to go.

https://www.commoncause.org/work/stopping-a-dangerous-article-v-convention/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Constitutional_Convention_of_the_United_States

[Cheezoholic]

8. Yep, this has been the crown of their long game since 1980. We need to get back into state politics with a vengeance n/t

[Lonestarblue]

23. Republicans have been focused on holding a convention for many years now.

Their plan is to revise the Constitution, much of which they have already done with Project 2025, which Trump is faithfully implementing. They are pushing hard to control more state governments. They lost one with Wisconsin and are now using Musk’s millions to elect another rabid MAGA to the state Supreme Court so they can gerrymander the state again to ensure veto-proof majorities in the state legislature.

I hope Governor Evers and his staff are willing to believe that Musk may have rigged the 2024 election and could do so with the Wisconsin election. Tests need to be made of the tabulators after the votes are cast, not just before.

[Nonnia Bisnez]

26. Relax

Any amendments proposed by a constitutional convention must be ratified by 38 state legislatures. There are at least 13 states that won't go along with GOP shenanigans.

[Hekate]

28. Not relaxing over here. Their intentions have only grown more vile with every decade.

[Nonnia Bisnez]

31. If less than 13 states are willing to stand up to MAGA

then we are all screwed no matter what

[Hekate]

35. There's a whole lotta things I thought my US government would never, ever do or acquiesce to...

And they're doing them now.

[Wiz Imp]

30. I'm not really concerned at this point.

However, it is something that shouldn't just be ignored as no danger either. The biggest issue with it is there is no precedent and nothing outlined in the current constitution or anyplace else as to how a new constitutional convention would work. And despite the threshold of needing 38 states to ratify changes seemingly making it highly unlikely or impossible to succeed, you can bet the right would do everything they could to rig the process in order to get what they want.

[Nonnia Bisnez]

32. A new constitution

Would be an amendment to the entire existing constitution. And there is historical precident. The original constitution needed 3/4 of the states to ratify it before in came in effect.

[Wiz Imp]

33. I'm not arguing, I was just going by what is in most every article I see on the subject.

https://theweek.com/politics/constitutional-convention-congress-requests-change-constitution

What would a constitutional convention look like?
There's no precedent, raising fears of a 'runaway convention'

An Article V convention is "one of the few provisions of the Constitution that has never been implemented," the Congressional Research Service said in a 2016 report. Because of that, there are no precedents to show how a gathering could and should work — instead, there is a "wide range of policy and procedural questions" that would have to be settled by Congress before the work begins. If a convention does occur, any amendments would have to be approved by 38 states. That "arguably acts as a deterrent" to any big changes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Constitutional_Convention_of_the_United_States

Numerous questions surround the issue of how such an unprecedented convention might be conducted. There is no consensus on how such a convention may be organized, led, or who may be selected to be in such a body.

[Nonnia Bisnez]

34. It would be up to Congress to call and organize.

There would be some equitable proportionment among the states. Probably by electoral votes. States would decide who is in their delegation. The convention would decide who would lead the convention and the rules. If the convention goes off the rails, the blue states would just boycott and vote against the final product both during the convention and during the ratification process.

[Hekate]

36. Not sure if you've been paying close attention to the current SCOTUS enabling the current POTUS...

…and the current Congress yielding their powers to the current POTUS.

I won’t belabor it, except to say a lot of DUers have been paying attention.

[KT2000]

9. Not far fetched at all

They have been working to get the constitutional convention for years. This is the nail in the coffin of the US to form authoritarian rule. MAGATS will likely support this.

[aggiesal]

10. What gets me is that some of the 34 states that signed on to Article V convention ...

did so, back in the 80's & 90's
I've been hearing about this back during GW McIdiot's presidential administration.

When do these approvals expire? Or does each that that signed on have to officially sign off?
They pretty much want to abolish the Bill of Rights, from what I heard. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Hekate]

37. You're not wrong

[rampartd]

11. a koch project through heritage and americans for prosperity

https://conventionofstates.com/

[aggiesal]

16. Apparently of the 28 states that have requested a Constitution Convention ...

26 state had rescinded, then 13 of the 26 have signed back on.
Doing the arithmetic, that means only 15 states have signed onto an Article V Convention.

There is a question that rescinding is not legal.
Which then asks, why is requesting legal, but rescinding illegal?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_rescissions_of_Article_V_Convention_applications

[Montauk6]

12. This is why I feel vicious loathing for folks who didn't do the right thing in early November.😤

These MAGAts know that folks'll cry uncle and run back to the Dems, so they have to get as much damage in as possible, including destroying the foundations of this country they lie about loving. Plus, the damage is a double-edged sword: it furthers their agenda, and when the citizens are screaming for blood, they hide and take a break, then the Dems get the honor of cleaning up that mess on Aisle USA, eating up all the time needed to get their agenda going.

All these stupid-ass so-called progressives/leftists/whatev who cry about being so (boo-hoo) tired of "lesser of 2 evils" and "BOTH SIDES! BOTH SIDES! BOTH sIDES!", playing the same raggedy playbook that dates back the DLC days which was at least a QUARTER OF A CENTURY ago, need to finally GET IT INTO THEIR HEADS that you can't just vote Blue when the country is teetering over the brink of a free fall; you gotta see the fight through, dammit!!

How the f**k are you gonna get "free healthcare," "green new deals," and "student loan forgiveness" when you stay your butt home or vote 3rd party imaginaries??? And then when the legislative gets packed with enough MAGATs that even a majority is undercuttable, they start whining louder about, "WHY WON'T THE DEMOCRATS LEEEEEEEEEEEAD!!!!??????"

Ridiculous.... sorry for the rant, got carried away. Old habit. As you were...

[WestMichRad]

13. I'm actually somewhat surprised that TSF hasn't

… just declared that the Constitution is henceforth null and void. I doubt the Repuke Congress critters would object.

[hadEnuf]

15. Republicans have always preached about the Constitution.

But when you read stories like this it shows you they do not and never have given a shit about it.

There is no low that they won't go to to get power. It's all about power and money.

[Trust_Reality]

19. And radical religiosity

[mahatmakanejeeves]

17. There's an account on Bluesky that tracks his flights.

There used to be one on Twitter, but it “disappeared.”

https://bsky.app/profile/desantisjet.grndcntrl.net

DeSantis went from Tallahassee to Boise,Idaho, last Sunday. The plane next went from Boise to Helena, Montana.

Ron DeSantis's jet (Tracking)
‪@desantisjet.grndcntrl.net‬

Follow
DeSantisJet | FL Gov't Landed in Boise, Idaho, United States. Apx. flt. time 4 h 53 min.
Reg: N943FL On Ground: True Alt: 0 Last Contact: 0:00:00.101492 Trigger: now on ground
ALT
March 23, 2025 at 11:00 PM

https://bsky.app/profile/desantisjet.grndcntrl.net/post/3ll3rawpepl22

[Hornedfrog2000]

24. They only have the backing

Of the russian gov to come up with this shit

[Hekate]

38. The US right wing wants a Constitutional Convention& working on it for decades

Putin would benefit from our breakup, but the cause is right here at home

[oldmanlynn]

25. Are there 38 states that would go along with this?

[angrychair]

27. No, absolutely not

The pro convention people will claim 28 have signed on but most of those have backed out. The pro convention people claim that once you agree that you cant back out which is legally dubious and seems unlikely to be enforceable.

Given that they cannot force a state to agree, the count is roughly 15 states are pro convention but that is likely fluid as well.

It's also a false assumption that a lot of the more extreme proposals to modify the Constitution would pass or pass with the language that they prefer. While I'm sure some of the more ignorant states would agree but as we have seen with the pushback on abortion in places like Kansas and Arizona to name just a few, I have serious doubts it would even happen, much less that it will happen as some religious extremists would like. Not to mention that it would likely take decades for state legislatures to approve it, if it all (ERA being a good example).

[Mad_Machine76]

29. Not for anything

That most people would agree with.

[Blue Owl]

39. Pants tucked into white boots don't go over well in Montana

[Renew Deal]

40. Sounds like he's running for president again