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Enough Is Enough (Original Post) MayReasonRule Mar 29 OP
Mighty task. cachukis Mar 29 #1
100% -- Our Freedoms Are Reason Based -- When Delusion Rules Our Freedoms Cease To Exist -- Which Is Why... MayReasonRule Mar 29 #3
Based on the homegirl Mar 29 #9
Had no idea. cachukis Mar 29 #12
Lol... Yeah... "Kinda"... MayReasonRule Mar 29 #18
Nice take on famous saying. It can happen because "what we can change" is fluid & indeterminate until after the event.nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 29 #2
I'm Not Certain I'm Familiar With "The Saying" You've Referenced... It's Intriguing... MayReasonRule Mar 29 #4
I believe they have referenced cksmithy Mar 29 #7
I am thinking that Codifer Mar 29 #8
That's the one. I think it might be older than them but they certainly use it. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 29 #13
It is believed to have originated with Reinhold Niebuhr lastlib Mar 30 #29
Thanks. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 30 #30
So The "Spin" Is "Fuck That And Fuck Fascists Be The Change You Want To See"... MayReasonRule Mar 29 #19
See post 10 FailureToCommunicate Mar 29 #11
Post 8 and post 10 have it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 29 #16
From AA - the Serenity Prayer Mountain Mule Mar 30 #28
I know it well. ChazInAz Mar 30 #33
44 Years - Wow! Mountain Mule Mar 31 #38
Just had my AA Birthday ChazInAz Apr 1 #39
So true. cachukis Mar 29 #14
Perfect! NotHardly Mar 29 #5
Well said. 👍 Dave Bowman Mar 29 #6
Even Reinhold Niebuhr would agree that there are times to act, not accept. FailureToCommunicate Mar 29 #10
The difference fluctuates. What we CAN change is sometimes dependent on what HAS changed Bernardo de La Paz Mar 29 #15
Great wisdom. hamsterjill Mar 29 #17
When you're out of power Meowmee Mar 29 #20
Amen & Hallelujah! Cha Mar 29 #21
You have a plan? Hekate Mar 29 #22
My Plan Is To Work Within Arms Reach Of My Ass... MayReasonRule Mar 29 #23
The Serenity Prayer in its entirty. Radical Lutheran Mar 29 #24
Missouri Synod in the house! marble falls Mar 30 #27
ELCA Lutheran Here Radical Lutheran Apr 3 #40
We're all reading from the same book. marble falls Apr 3 #41
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 30 #37
The Serenity Prayer, in its Entirety Radical Lutheran Mar 29 #25
And I've heard that the shortened version of the Serenity Prayers is Marie Marie Mar 29 #26
Exactly 👍 TommieMommy Mar 30 #31
How's this Ennui anyhow Mar 30 #32
You can lead an idiot to White House, but it won't necessary make him Presidential. marble falls Mar 30 #34
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 30 #36
DAYUM!!! calimary Mar 30 #35

MayReasonRule

(3,174 posts)
3. 100% -- Our Freedoms Are Reason Based -- When Delusion Rules Our Freedoms Cease To Exist -- Which Is Why...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:34 PM
Mar 29

The reasoned among us will never desist.
The reasoned among us will always resist.

May reason rule across our troubled land!

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,817 posts)
2. Nice take on famous saying. It can happen because "what we can change" is fluid & indeterminate until after the event.nt
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:32 PM
Mar 29

MayReasonRule

(3,174 posts)
4. I'm Not Certain I'm Familiar With "The Saying" You've Referenced... It's Intriguing...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:35 PM
Mar 29

Might you post the full quote?

cksmithy

(316 posts)
7. I believe they have referenced
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:11 PM
Mar 29

a religious based thought about "accepting things that are out of your control," it is ok to try to change or improve things you can actually change, but if you can't change it just accept it. It's like be stuck in a highway traffic/accident. You can't move your car because the traffic stopped. Can't move. We don't have to stop, or accept the baloney they are serving. We do need to start changing these daily bs situations. The things we cannot accept, have to be changed..

Codifer

(941 posts)
8. I am thinking that
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:15 PM
Mar 29

this is from a credo of AA, Alcoholics Anonymous.

I will attempt to paraphrase:

"May gawd grant me the humility to accept the things I cannot change,

The couirage to change the things I cannot accept,

And the wisdom to know the difference."

I am probably wrong.

lastlib

(25,765 posts)
29. It is believed to have originated with Reinhold Niebuhr
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 07:38 AM
Mar 30

in the 1930s. The OP quote has been attributed to Angela Davis, and was revived in the Crime Minister's first term.

MayReasonRule

(3,174 posts)
19. So The "Spin" Is "Fuck That And Fuck Fascists Be The Change You Want To See"...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:47 PM
Mar 29

That's the point....

Fascist lives don't matter.

Mountain Mule

(1,115 posts)
28. From AA - the Serenity Prayer
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 04:08 AM
Mar 30

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change
The courage to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know the difference.

Mountain Mule

(1,115 posts)
38. 44 Years - Wow!
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:04 PM
Mar 31

Congratulations! 44 years a day at a time. You Sir, are an inspiration for us all.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,466 posts)
10. Even Reinhold Niebuhr would agree that there are times to act, not accept.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:17 PM
Mar 29

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference."

- Attributed to Reinhold Niebuhr, Lutheran theologian (1892–1971)

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,817 posts)
15. The difference fluctuates. What we CAN change is sometimes dependent on what HAS changed
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:29 PM
Mar 29

Anger fluctuates.

Downsides fluctuate. If there is less or nothing to lose, then a lot can be done.

hamsterjill

(15,764 posts)
17. Great wisdom.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:31 PM
Mar 29

Now, can someone please unite us and tell us what we can do to change the things we cannot accept? There are many people, I believe, who are willing if they just KNEW where/what/when, etc. The town halls are certainly a start.

MayReasonRule

(3,174 posts)
23. My Plan Is To Work Within Arms Reach Of My Ass...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:13 PM
Mar 29

...as needed.

Nothing more.
Nothing less.

Be the a part of the change one desires to see.

Each must choose in the moment what is the next correct thing to do given their circumstances and access to "resources".

For instance... walk-in safes are wholly under rated in my personal experience.

24. The Serenity Prayer in its entirty.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:15 PM
Mar 29

The Serenity Prayer God grant me the serenity To accept the things I cannot change; Courage to change the things I can; And wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time; Enjoying one moment at a time; Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace; Taking, as He did, this sinful world As it is, not as I would have it; Trusting that He will make all things right If I surrender to His Will; So that I may be reasonably happy in this life And supremely happy with Him Forever and ever in the next. Amen. (prayer attributed to Reinhold Neibuhr, 1892-1971)

Read more at: https://www.lords-prayer-words.com/famous_prayers/god_grant_me_the_serenity.html

This was written during the NAZI AUTHORITARIAN Regieme during which Neibuhr and Boenhoffer were struggling so it is NOT simple minded dribble but lived wisdom. The Center of This is about finding the Wisdom and the Courage "to change the things I CAN."
This is not simple pacifism it is BOLD ACTION accepting there are consequences and hardships, NO MATTER OUR CHOICES, but embracing these actions boldly: trusting that they are little steps leading to justice in some way. Will some attempts to change the things we can... be mistakes... YES. BUT TO DO NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION. To do nothing is to Aquiess to EVIL and this is definitely the WRONG ACTION. RESIST, RESIST, RESIST. Some will be non-violent. Some may chose other options. We each must decide where we stand. The AUTHORITARIANS rarely are swayed by non-violence. That requires empathy. IF they have None, THEY have made the choice, of how the people must respond. God(dess) Help us ALL.

25. The Serenity Prayer, in its Entirety
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:24 PM
Mar 29

The Serenity Prayer God grant me the serenity To accept the things I cannot change; Courage to change the things I can; And wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time; Enjoying one moment at a time; Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace; Taking, as He did, this sinful world As it is, not as I would have it; Trusting that He will make all things right If I surrender to His Will; So that I may be reasonably happy in this life And supremely happy with Him Forever and ever in the next. Amen. (prayer attributed to Reinhold Neibuhr, 1892-1971)

Read more at: https://www.lords-prayer-words.com/famous_prayers/god_grant_me_the_serenity.html

This was written during the NAZI AUTHORITARIAN Regieme during which Neibuhr and Boenhoffer were struggling so it is NOT simple minded dribble but lived wisdom. The Center of This is about finding the Wisdom and the Courage "to change the things I CAN."
This is not simple pacifism it is BOLD ACTION accepting there are consequences and hardships, NO MATTER OUR CHOICES, but embracing these actions boldly: trusting that they are little steps leading to justice in some way. Will some attempts to change the things we can... be mistakes... YES. BUT TO DO NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION. To do nothing is to Aquiess to EVIL and this is definitely the WRONG ACTION. RESIST, RESIST, RESIST. Some will be non-violent. Some may chose other options. We each must decide where we stand. The AUTHORITARIANS rarely are swayed by non-violence. That requires empathy. IF they have None, THEY have made the choice, of how the people must respond. God(dess) Help us ALL.

Marie Marie

(10,153 posts)
26. And I've heard that the shortened version of the Serenity Prayers is
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 11:32 PM
Mar 29

FUCK IT. Yea well, not this time. Like Radical Lutheran said above: To do nothing is not an option!!! Show up at the nationwide protest on Apr 5th and make your presence and voices be known. RESIST!!!

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