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moonshinegnomie

(3,309 posts)
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 03:34 PM Mar 31

a former friend who went full maga died last night

he went full maga before the morons first term and i cut hom out of my life completely
just found out he died last night
the sad thing is i dont give a damn. no sympathy. All i can think of is thats one less trump supporter. other than that i dont give. damn..

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a former friend who went full maga died last night (Original Post) moonshinegnomie Mar 31 OP
My goal is to out live all my enemies. Almost there. multigraincracker Mar 31 #1
I'd hazard he's been brain dead for some nine years. Body just caught up with the mind . . . Journeyman Mar 31 #2
Post removed Post removed Mar 31 #3
If you're so MAGA centric, why are you here? RainCaster Mar 31 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 31 #7
Just joined today, I see NickB79 Mar 31 #5
Hey! Welcome to DU, NickB79! calimary Mar 31 #14
The poster to whom you are responding has been here since 2002. niyad Apr 1 #62
blows bosuns pipe to welcome nick879 aboard. AllaN01Bear Mar 31 #27
see post 62 niyad Apr 1 #63
Your feelings are perfectly justified. Paladin Mar 31 #6
Didn't get a chance to ask,... magicarpet Mar 31 #10
I understand. ananda Mar 31 #8
The one person I still spoke to from High School Bettie Mar 31 #9
I have several good friends now, and guess what... ananda Mar 31 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Mar 31 #11
He isn't actively voting against their health and well-being. LuvLoogie Mar 31 #18
is there a point to this? ARE YOU GOING TO SIT THERE AND PLAY "WHAT ABOUT ISMS"? Conjuay Mar 31 #20
whatever... I have an opinion as we're all entitled to. WarGamer Mar 31 #41
Weak Sauce ProfessorGAC Mar 31 #21
Bs Meowmee Mar 31 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Mar 31 #23
Doesn't change a dang thang Montauk6 Mar 31 #25
Totally disagree! bluestarone Mar 31 #26
You chose to participate when you posted on the tread mountain grammy Mar 31 #31
I think it's important for people to describe WHY they disagree with something. WarGamer Mar 31 #42
Thank you hueymahl Mar 31 #33
Don't let them steal our souls and humanity. summer_in_TX Mar 31 #50
What action is the OP supposed to regret in not mourning that person's niyad Apr 1 #64
Both sides? No. Just no. Cirsium Mar 31 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Mar 31 #43
Oh stop it Cirsium Mar 31 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Mar 31 #45
Mr Sully sullycat Mar 31 #38
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Apr 1 #59
false equivalency, as per usual. harumph Mar 31 #46
A got rid of a former friend too. MAGA wacko. IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 31 #12
I can relate Rachel M at 6 pm Mar 31 #13
Life is short and our capacity to care about mean, nasty, stupid people Whyisthisstillclose Mar 31 #15
I get it. BigDemVoter Mar 31 #16
I gave up my previously last lifelong friend. barbtries Mar 31 #17
"I don't know if I'll even find out" Rachel M at 6 pm Apr 1 #67
i have wondered about it. barbtries Apr 1 #68
Your friend died all the way back then, your greif largely dealt with as time passed. Maru Kitteh Mar 31 #19
I can certainly understand. In fact, many, many people here could understand. chouchou Mar 31 #28
I had an aunt whose whole wing of the family voted Drumpf Simeon Salus Mar 31 #29
hey moonshine ZDU Mar 31 #30
Do not worry, TNNurse Mar 31 #32
The universe will square up with him... EarthFirst Mar 31 #34
Sorry you lost your friend several years ago. WestMichRad Mar 31 #35
Ding dong another magat is gone! paleotn Mar 31 #36
Reminds me of an old joke. Xolodno Mar 31 #39
The Death Door swings both ways. Who gets the last laugh? elocs Mar 31 #40
It's hard to care about someone like that. mwb970 Mar 31 #47
I feel the same way about every single one of them JoseBalow Mar 31 #48
My brother in law who went full MAGA died 3 years ago kellytore Mar 31 #49
I know people who voted for Trump orangecrush Mar 31 #51
It seems like you care a little bit Renew Deal Mar 31 #52
Thank you orangecrush Mar 31 #53
I don't believe we have the luxury any more OF giving a damn. hamsterjill Mar 31 #54
that's one less vote for them. nt Javaman Apr 1 #55
Last year my brother in law died. Woodwizard Apr 1 #56
He can't have my family and friends HereForTheParty Apr 1 #57
While in the doctors office, this one patient insisted that FOX NEWS BE on YoshidaYui Apr 1 #58
Thankfully, my GP's office just runs announcements about the practice Prof. Toru Tanaka Apr 1 #61
Domo Arigatou gozaimasu sensei YoshidaYui Apr 1 #66
Nice. Cherish that memory. Bonx Apr 1 #60
I can understand your feelings mdbl Apr 1 #65
I don't actively wish for anyone's death, but I don't mourn them, either. mucholderthandirt Apr 2 #69

Response to moonshinegnomie (Original post)

Response to RainCaster (Reply #4)

calimary

(85,955 posts)
14. Hey! Welcome to DU, NickB79!
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:41 PM
Mar 31

Glad you’re here!

I can’t go so far as to condemn anybody for extreme upset about how badly trump is screwing our country and trying to screw our future. All I can do is work my hardest to minimize - or try to counteract - whatever damage is being created by Republicans and their sympathizers.

I’m happy to suggest you sample the Indivisible movement. There’ll be a load of us taking part in this Saturday’s nationwide event. There might be some activity near you, and it may only demand an hour or two, or whatever you feel like doing. You might actually find some folks of like mind who are worth getting to know!

And it’ll make you feel like you’re DOING SOMETHING, no matter how small an action it might be.

niyad

(123,318 posts)
62. The poster to whom you are responding has been here since 2002.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:00 PM
Apr 1

The "just joined today" referred to a removed troll.

Paladin

(30,211 posts)
6. Your feelings are perfectly justified.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:08 PM
Mar 31

Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. "One less trump supporter" is the proper sentiment.

ananda

(31,524 posts)
8. I understand.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:14 PM
Mar 31

My former best friend went crazy during Covid,
touting anti-vax and the use of hydroxychloroquine.

That was our last conversation. It hurts to think of
her losing her mind that way, but that's how it goes.

Bettie

(18,180 posts)
9. The one person I still spoke to from High School
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:22 PM
Mar 31

I lost to Trump and anti vax.

I just can't manage to have a conversation with her anymore. So, I send a Happy Birthday text once a year, she sends one to me, and that's it.

ananda

(31,524 posts)
24. I have several good friends now, and guess what...
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:32 PM
Mar 31

they are all liberal yellowdawg Democrats like me!

Response to moonshinegnomie (Original post)

LuvLoogie

(7,969 posts)
18. He isn't actively voting against their health and well-being.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:05 PM
Mar 31

Last edited Wed Apr 2, 2025, 09:37 AM - Edit history (1)

He isn't inflicting a racist fascist regime upon "conservatives"

Bothsiderism is so lame. Losing empathy for the MAGA in your life is not actively promoting their demise

Conjuay

(2,378 posts)
20. is there a point to this? ARE YOU GOING TO SIT THERE AND PLAY "WHAT ABOUT ISMS"?
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:09 PM
Mar 31

LIBS didn’t attempt to end a constitutional democracy.
All the rest of your blather is a moot point.
They refused to accept the outcome of the election, fuck them.
They can move to Russia - god knows I’ve heard that yelled at me enough times for fifty years.
I apologize for my abrasiveness, but really, enough of this shit.

Meowmee

(8,687 posts)
22. Bs
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:22 PM
Mar 31

“What good is political activism if all you're doing is trying to be as bad/worse than those you oppose?”



The op did not vote for an insane fascist who murdered millions. Not mourning that person wouldn’t ever make them the same or worse than fascist maga or third party non voters etc. who voted for the harm, death and destruction of Americans and democracy.

It’s called self protection and self preservation. Make an effort to understand the difference.

Response to WarGamer (Reply #11)

Montauk6

(9,025 posts)
25. Doesn't change a dang thang
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:34 PM
Mar 31

Because, dear sir or madam, that IS what they're thinking.

Holder 3:16 sez, "When they go low, kick 'em."

mountain grammy

(27,719 posts)
31. You chose to participate when you posted on the tread
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:05 PM
Mar 31

and that's fine, just say you disagree and leave it there, because you did choose to participate by saying much more than than that and then being judgmental.

People are stressed and scared. We are being confronted by pure evil and it's not being stopped. Tell those people sent to El Salvador or stuck in a stinking, overcrowded American detention center with no end in sight that "hate is corrosive and I choose not to participate"

We all know hate is corrosive, but sometimes it's all we got. I hope everyday that trump drops dead!!!

hueymahl

(2,780 posts)
33. Thank you
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:14 PM
Mar 31

Its a tough time for a lot of people. That does not mean we should abandon our humanity or compassion. I hope OP does not in the future regret their actions toward this friend.

summer_in_TX

(3,552 posts)
50. Don't let them steal our souls and humanity.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 09:48 PM
Mar 31

Feel sorry for them if you can. Horrible to fall prey to propaganda and turn into hateful people. They''re the marks.

That's how I keep myself from stewing in hatred. I reserve the most contempt for those who have manipulated them.

Cirsium

(2,339 posts)
37. Both sides? No. Just no.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:31 PM
Mar 31

Slave owner abuses slave does not equal slave hates master.

MAGA is about abuse. They target the most vulnerable.

The two sides are not equal. It is corrosive to insist they are.

No, fighting back does not mean we are as bad as they are. Ever.

Response to Cirsium (Reply #37)

Cirsium

(2,339 posts)
44. Oh stop it
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 07:20 PM
Mar 31

That is a ridiculous statement. Damn, where to start?

First, MAGA cultists support the MAGA terrorists, for example the January 6th terrorists. We do not support any one throwing Molotov cocktails. Get the difference?

Next, no one here advocated throwing Molotov cocktails.

Then, vandalizing a car is not the same as bombing a building, ffs.

Destroying a car is not for the purpose of terrorizing any group of people. Ergo, while it is a crime, of course, it is not terrorism. Bombing a clinic is.

Then, there is the fact that these random acts of violence supposedly connected to the Left are as often as not done by right wingers and agents provocateur.

Response to Cirsium (Reply #44)

sullycat

(1 post)
38. Mr Sully
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:31 PM
Mar 31

True.. but the problelm is this. We are running into facism and people that love Trump ARE part of the problem. Libs are fighting for democracy. Put YOUR shoe on the other foot. Are you advocating those who didn't oppose Hitler with the same logic you just used against the libs? i think NOT.

IrishBubbaLiberal

(1,442 posts)
12. A got rid of a former friend too. MAGA wacko.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:34 PM
Mar 31

Cut him off.
After election Nov 2024
Wasn’t worth associating with MAGA scum

Told him to never text or call me.

Good riddance

It’s exactly like….anyone, or another who supported Hitler,
there is no other way. Good riddance.

A vile racist.
Talking to scum like that is a waste.
I DO NOT ASSOCIATE OR TOLERATE RACISTS
I DO NOT TOLERATE MAGA EITHER

Rachel M at 6 pm

(150 posts)
13. I can relate
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:38 PM
Mar 31

My closest friend (who was also my oldest friend) went full MAGA

The friendship ended last year, and by then it had lasted about 8 years too long

After our contact ended, I learned that he was arrested for assaulting a woman at an election night campaign celebration

15. Life is short and our capacity to care about mean, nasty, stupid people
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:46 PM
Mar 31

is limited. Take care of those we love and give off vibes of love. The others are on their own.

BigDemVoter

(4,618 posts)
16. I get it.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:59 PM
Mar 31

I had a gay friend from college who went full evangelical and maga. I never did ask him how he reconciled his homosexuality with his supposed Christianity, but I truly believe he doesn't see it as a problem.

I just couldn't continue to keep communicating with him. I just wasn't able to. I get what you are saying.

barbtries

(30,344 posts)
17. I gave up my previously last lifelong friend.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:03 PM
Mar 31

If she dies I don't know if I'll even find out, let alone whether I'll feel much. I think I've been letting her go for a while now.

We lost them before they died. A terrible by-product of the krasnov years and the decades of incessant right wing propaganda, as well as the intractable racism and bigotry of most if not all magats.

I want to say I'm sorry, and I am, but I feel like I understand your feelings all too well.

Rachel M at 6 pm

(150 posts)
67. "I don't know if I'll even find out"
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 04:56 PM
Apr 1

My problem is that I will find out (and I fully expect him to preceded me in death, given his unhealthy lifestyle)

When his son calls to tell me the bad news, I'm going to have to decide whether or not to tell him the truth

"I'm sorry, but your dad and I have not been friends for a long time"

I'm sure that's not the way to handle it but I don't know what is the right way

I'm certainly not traveling across the country for the funeral of someone who voted to strip my mom of her safety net because he thought presidents control the price of eggs

barbtries

(30,344 posts)
68. i have wondered about it.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 07:34 PM
Apr 1

she will probably pre-decease me, but I don't know that. Her kids may contact me. At this moment I pretty much feel as if I buried her a few months ago, and the body had decomposed long before that.

Maru Kitteh

(30,091 posts)
19. Your friend died all the way back then, your greif largely dealt with as time passed.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:09 PM
Mar 31

Still, it’s a shame to see what this cult has wrought in the lives of so many.



chouchou

(1,773 posts)
28. I can certainly understand. In fact, many, many people here could understand.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:45 PM
Mar 31

People start listening to garbage news, hear propaganda lies and slowly lean to a fake reality.
Two of my past friends fell for the Right-wing crap. They're still alive so I hope their brains get up out of the dirt..

Simeon Salus

(1,479 posts)
29. I had an aunt whose whole wing of the family voted Drumpf
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:50 PM
Mar 31

And then she died of Covid.

I will be a reunion one day and will try very hard not to be a dick about it.

This is what they voted for: reality tv.

TNNurse

(7,310 posts)
32. Do not worry,
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:10 PM
Mar 31

many of us understand. They have pushed us into a dark place. We are not happy there, but it is self protection.

EarthFirst

(3,624 posts)
34. The universe will square up with him...
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:14 PM
Mar 31

I wouldn’t allow this to occupy your thoughts in any impactful way.

Xolodno

(6,961 posts)
39. Reminds me of an old joke.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:36 PM
Mar 31

Minister was giving a sermon on enemies and how we should still love them as everyone has them.

Old man in the back stands up and says "I don't have any".

Minister then asks "Are you sure?"

Old man says "Yes, because I outlived ever one of those bastards!".

elocs

(24,098 posts)
40. The Death Door swings both ways. Who gets the last laugh?
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:44 PM
Mar 31

But those of us who are Democrats and on the Left seem to have a history of being self-righteous about our beliefs, convinced it makes us better than those on the other side. But we have not been vigilant in protecting the rights of our nation being convinced that the maga crowd were just a bunch of ignorants in the Trump culture of personality. Meanwhile while we were convinced they were just a bunch of stolen election morons they have been planning the take-down of the nation we love.
Oh that we had not been complacent about our democracy's future and self confident that we would prevail.
How art the mighty fallen and our sin was one of national pride being convinced that the loss of our democracy could never happen here but only in those lesser nations of the world. But no matter what happens in the future, America will never be the same again.

kellytore

(227 posts)
49. My brother in law who went full MAGA died 3 years ago
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 09:36 PM
Mar 31

and I showed no sympathy either. Every time I would see him he would praise Trump as some kind of God, and then would call me a socialist. He use to be a really cool guy 30 years ago, but when he retired in 2010, he would drink vodka all day and watch Fox News.

orangecrush

(24,285 posts)
51. I know people who voted for Trump
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:39 PM
Mar 31

That I would be saddened by their deaths.

Life isn't one dimensional.

These are ordinary people pretty much in the same boat as me who were deceived, is how I see it.

On the other hand, if him or any members of his circle kick it, mourning is not on the card.

Renew Deal

(83,831 posts)
52. It seems like you care a little bit
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:40 PM
Mar 31

And being honest about your conflicted feelings is not a betrayal of your politics.

hamsterjill

(15,764 posts)
54. I don't believe we have the luxury any more OF giving a damn.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 11:52 PM
Mar 31

These people have no compassion, no empathy, and certainly no understanding of our side, and they don't expend any energy trying to understand our points of view. So, I don't think that we have the luxury of "going high" any longer. If we do that, we've already seen what happens. We get pummeled and bull dozed.

You've done nothing wrong. You didn't WISH this person to die. You didn't do anything to cause their passing. Your emotions are justified, and you're just expressing honest feelings.

I see nothing wrong with that.

Woodwizard

(1,163 posts)
56. Last year my brother in law died.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 08:24 AM
Apr 1

He had almost no one he had driven everyone away with his hate, when we went to clean out the house he had a flag on the front of the house that said Fu#k Joe Biden and you for voting for him.

He was always a right winger and alcoholic but really went off the rails when trump came in on the first term. He just became a drunken bundle of rage.

When we got the news he died I just said to my wife Oh well. Her sister his partner had died 10 years previously, lung cancer she was also an alcoholic and 3 pack a day smoker. The two of them fought constantly.

I have cut a few "friends" over the years finding who they truly are.

HereForTheParty

(847 posts)
57. He can't have my family and friends
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 09:25 AM
Apr 1

If they're estranged there's no way to have any influence on them. You're cutting off your nose to spite your face, as they say.

YoshidaYui

(43,603 posts)
58. While in the doctors office, this one patient insisted that FOX NEWS BE on
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:21 AM
Apr 1

THEY are not only addicted to the shit they listen to, they revel in it. I think Jessie Waters is one of the more hateful people I have ever seen, and Sean Hannity isn't much better, THIS COUNTRY WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF WITHOUT FOX NEWS...ITS A HATE FEST OF SHIT AND LARA INGRAM MAKES ME WANT TO THROW SHIT A THE TV AND BREAK IT. SHE HAS THAT SMUG NAZI LOOK ...

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,566 posts)
61. Thankfully, my GP's office just runs announcements about the practice
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:54 PM
Apr 1

and tips for good health. Years back before the office was renovated they ran Fox News on the TV but not now. The place I go to get blood drawn for my periodic A1C checks doesn’t run FOX news or MSNBC. It is a retro TV shows channel, not sure which but I am happy with watching retro shows vs. propaganda.

mdbl

(6,255 posts)
65. I can understand your feelings
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:25 PM
Apr 1

It's sad they turned out so willfully ignorant and unempathetic.

mucholderthandirt

(1,452 posts)
69. I don't actively wish for anyone's death, but I don't mourn them, either.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:53 AM
Apr 2

If they truly believed in an afterlife, they have their answers now. Fuck them and the ass they rode in on.

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