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applegrove

(130,278 posts)
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 02:47 PM Mar 2025

The Hungarian Model: "Hungary is now one of the poorest countries, and possibly the poorest, in the European Union"

The Hungarian Model

March 31, 2025 at 7:31 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 32 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2025/03/31/the-hungarian-model/

"SNIP............

Anne Applebaum: “Once widely perceived to be the wealthiest country in Central Europe (‘the happiest barrack in the socialist camp,’ as it was known during the Cold War), and later the Central European country that foreign investors liked most, Hungary is now one of the poorest countries, and possibly the poorest, in the European Union.”

“Industrial production is falling year-over-year. Productivity is close to the lowest in the region. Unemployment is creeping upward. Despite the ruling party’s loud talk about traditional values, the population is shrinking. Perhaps that’s because young people don’t want to have children in a place where two-thirds of the citizens describe the national education system as “bad,” and where hospital departments are closing because so many doctors have moved abroad. Maybe talented people don’t want to stay in a country perceived as the most corrupt in the EU for three years in a row.”

...........SNIP"

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The Hungarian Model: "Hungary is now one of the poorest countries, and possibly the poorest, in the European Union" (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2025 OP
Trump's model misanthrope Mar 2025 #1
Putin's model. Without russian backing Hungary with Orban would wither completely. erronis Mar 2025 #6
I was thinking Melanias successor when it said Hungarian model.. BattleRow Mar 2025 #10
Dictatorship's agenda is never to govern, to make the country move forward, its always about power, staying in power Escurumbele Mar 2025 #19
Dictatorship.......... Lovie777 Mar 2025 #2
Orban got standing ovations from repugs central scrutinizer Mar 2025 #3
Went to Hungary almost three years ago newdeal2 Mar 2025 #4
Figures that tRUMP highlights this Country's so called economic boom (yeah, right (sarcasm here)). It's funny SWBTATTReg Mar 2025 #5
MAGAnomics. Kingofalldems Mar 2025 #7
I'm stealing that malaise Mar 2025 #9
Fortunately with the EU, mwooldri Mar 2025 #8
For now, anyway. The US that is. paleotn Mar 2025 #21
EU's givers and takers: dalton99a Mar 2025 #11
Interesting juxtaposition. The Netherlands v. Belgium. paleotn Mar 2025 #20
The article fails to mention a critical fact: WHERE does Hungary's money come from? DetlefK Mar 2025 #12
Yep Chi67 Mar 2025 #18
Quick Story ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #13
Nicolle Wallace dug into Orban's Hungary today. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2025 #14
Conservatives love it. Why don't the move there? surfered Mar 2025 #15
Yeah, but the super wealth Hungarians are doing fabulous! paleotn Mar 2025 #16
Huh Chi67 Mar 2025 #17
But they will be allowed into America as "prime" immigrants, bringing all their fascist tendencies with them. nt Jit423 Mar 2025 #22

erronis

(22,660 posts)
6. Putin's model. Without russian backing Hungary with Orban would wither completely.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:15 PM
Mar 2025

Get rid of Orban and the russians and it will flourish once again.

Budapest and the rest of the country used to be a very hot tourist destination.

Escurumbele

(4,019 posts)
19. Dictatorship's agenda is never to govern, to make the country move forward, its always about power, staying in power
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:00 PM
Mar 2025

Part of the agenda is to fill their coffers to the brim and then get more coffers to continue robbing the country dry, and that is what we are seeing already in the USA, there are no good intentions on anything trump/musk and his minions are doing.

trump and minions have had plenty of dictators to follow, and I am certain that he also has his mentor in Putin, its always the same blueprint, divide, tell lies, create an enemy of Democracy, pretend to be strong, give hope where there is none, cheat, fill the Supreme Court with loyalists, once you win an election (could be by cheating), fill every post with incompetent-not-fit-for-the-job loyalists who are just thrilled to have a title in government and will follow orders without questioning any. Its not the Hungary model, its the dictator model.

newdeal2

(4,779 posts)
4. Went to Hungary almost three years ago
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 03:08 PM
Mar 2025

Budapest specifically. While the historic places are nice, you can see that it’s still a pretty poor country and not nearly as advanced as its more pro-EU neighbors like Prague.

SWBTATTReg

(26,039 posts)
5. Figures that tRUMP highlights this Country's so called economic boom (yeah, right (sarcasm here)). It's funny
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 03:42 PM
Mar 2025

since tRUMP has come into office, he's trying to single-handily wipe out Joe Biden's economic miracle here in the US, simply because he's envious of Pres. Biden's record. What a moron.

The unemployment rate is going up. Jobless claims are increasing. Economic activity is slowing down. Interest rates are creeping up, allies are dumping our treasuries. No one wants to invest in tRUMP's economic dump (and why should they?).

mwooldri

(10,786 posts)
8. Fortunately with the EU,
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:20 PM
Mar 2025

Hungarians have 26 other countries to choose to live and work. That doesn't excuse Hungarys leaders from their failures though.

Regrettably the USA is in a union only with itself.

paleotn

(21,551 posts)
20. Interesting juxtaposition. The Netherlands v. Belgium.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:02 PM
Mar 2025

Didn't expect to see Belgium down in that crowd towards the bottom and far below their next door neighbor, the Dutch. The Netherlands is an economic powerhouse but with a housing crises that makes ours look tame.

 

DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
12. The article fails to mention a critical fact: WHERE does Hungary's money come from?
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:40 PM
Mar 2025

Hungary has huge social programs. Public transport is free for the elderly and much more. Life is GREAT in Hungary.

I happen to know a guy who lives part-time in Hungary. A very successful business-man. So, I asked him, where does all this money come from? How can Hungary possible afford all these huge social expenses?
He looked at me as if I'm dumb: "What do you mean? It's EU-money, of course! Orban is fantastic when it comes to money!"

The hungarian support for the anti-EU-politician Orban is bought and paid for with EU-money. Hungary is living large on foreign money.



And, a speculation of mine, I suspect Hungary of engaging in what Greece did until 2008: Brutally and ruthlessly cooking the books with no mercy to facts whatsoever.

And we all remember how this ended for Greece: A national bankruptcy, followed by a NATIONAL OUTRAGE when the EU refused to bail them out cart-blanche trust-me-bro Let's-throw-foreign-taxpayer-money-into-a-black-hole-of-corruption-and-swindle. Even progressive left-wingers like Varoufakis got mad at the EU for first demanding that Greece stop cooking their books before they are willing to send money.

ProfessorGAC

(75,852 posts)
13. Quick Story
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:44 PM
Mar 2025

My first time in Hungary, we drove from Budapest to Martfu (about 75 miles)
We were a quarter of the way there when I noticed an exit off the main highway that turned immediately into a dirt road.
So, 20 miles from a metro area of 3 million, highways exited to dirt roads.
Another time, we took a trip to a Romani resort for the folk show & dinner. We went by a village of 30-40 homes & there was one 100 amp service line running to the whole village.
Now, the first one was in the 90s so the Soviet hangover was still in place, but outside metro Budapest Hungary has been quite poor for a long time.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,369 posts)
14. Nicolle Wallace dug into Orban's Hungary today.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:56 PM
Mar 2025

Totally corrupt. Money is sucked up like Jeffrey Goldberg's phone number.

paleotn

(21,551 posts)
16. Yeah, but the super wealth Hungarians are doing fabulous!
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:33 PM
Mar 2025

Isn't that what it's all about?

Chi67

(1,272 posts)
17. Huh
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:39 PM
Mar 2025

I still don't understand how Hungary has not been kicked out of the EU for human rights abuses alone.

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
22. But they will be allowed into America as "prime" immigrants, bringing all their fascist tendencies with them. nt
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 07:27 PM
Mar 2025
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