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riversedge

(74,973 posts)
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:16 AM Apr 1

Absolute BLOODBATH at HHS/NIH/CDC this morning. Generation of scientists, health care officials being wiped out

Feeling real helpless at the moment and can't imagine the horror these workers
and their families are feeling!!


Absolute BLOODBATH at HHS/NIH/CDC this morning.

Generation of scientists, health care officials being wiped out



















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Absolute BLOODBATH at HHS/NIH/CDC this morning. Generation of scientists, health care officials being wiped out (Original Post) riversedge Apr 1 OP
Mother fucking Republicans are destroying America. OrlandoDem2 Apr 1 #1
imbeciles voted them in samsingh Apr 1 #14
Your fears are 100% legitimate... Moostache Apr 1 #28
Nuclear annihilation possible, climate/environmental disaster certain. Mister Ed Apr 1 #30
I blame the billionaires backing them, the economic terrorists like musk, bezo, the tech bros. ImNotGod Apr 1 #37
Only right now? I've been fearing for it ever since 2016. wnylib Apr 1 #64
That someone else bdamomma Apr 1 #69
Thom Hartman's list of destruction DENVERPOPS Apr 1 #29
This is terrorism. hadEnuf Apr 1 #36
Whenever we pull this national clusterfuck and political sabotage out of the swamp, Magoo48 Apr 1 #38
Crimes of humanity? vapor2 Apr 1 #74
DNA MnRA studies COVID Hoax. All those health nuts do are Woke viruses.... haele Apr 1 #60
And killing us off (literally) vapor2 Apr 1 #73
Everything that made America great is being destroyed. yardwork Apr 1 #2
maga is really make america not great samsingh Apr 1 #15
Make America Gross. soldierant Apr 1 #63
Make America Gag Again BattleRow Apr 1 #65
The foxes have taken over the henhouse. Mister Ed Apr 1 #32
Cue up the next round of lawsuits to be filed madinmaryland Apr 1 #3
That is okay,... magicarpet Apr 1 #4
It's not that easy or simple. yardwork Apr 1 #6
Some other nation will benefit, and I hope they do. It would be the smart thing to do for them and the scientists. Solly Mack Apr 1 #5
THIS!!! calimary Apr 1 #51
Solly Mack bdamomma Apr 1 #70
Yes. We can't bend. We can't yield. Solly Mack Apr 1 #76
100% vapor2 Apr 1 #75
The brain drain will be something no western country has ever seen. I know some being terminated at CDC... hlthe2b Apr 1 #7
Didn't china have that thing where they purged the intelligentsia? Laurelin Apr 1 #43
I said the worst in Western countries... n/t hlthe2b Apr 1 #44
True, sorry Laurelin Apr 1 #45
No problem... I am reminded of China on this as well. hlthe2b Apr 1 #47
Cultural Rev(ulsion) TommyT139 Apr 1 #57
I had no idea that in 2025 we would be racing back to the 18th century and bloodletting as a cure-all. NoMoreRepugs Apr 1 #8
Are THOSE the "good ol' days" now? calimary Apr 1 #53
Chaos is the point of all this. patphil Apr 1 #9
The fools are in charge. Harker Apr 1 #10
It's the Republican race back to the Dark Ages dlk Apr 1 #11
Make America Suck Again! bif Apr 1 #12
These professionals put their lives on hold for two solid years of hell during COVID--much like the military hlthe2b Apr 1 #13
I just scanned the Facebook posts of a MAGA relative. yardwork Apr 1 #17
I can't help but think that some/many? of us here may not live long enough to see this turn around--- hlthe2b Apr 1 #19
I know, right? yardwork Apr 1 #25
It sort of shanti Apr 1 #59
This country doesn't need science anymore. Oneironaut Apr 1 #16
Well said. Demovictory9 Apr 1 #46
All because Dr Fauci and the other scientists stood up to the con man and told the truth during the Covid outbreak. It iluvtennis Apr 1 #18
And they're paying the price for not having their lips superglued to his ass. Fuck. Initech Apr 1 #27
Fuck the Republicans in Congress newdeal2 Apr 1 #20
I agree. ShazzieB Apr 1 #39
I share your rage MorbidButterflyTat Apr 1 #50
The Republican party knows this is complete insanity. They could stop it, but are too afraid to do anything. sop Apr 1 #41
MAGA: Morons Are Governing America milestogo Apr 1 #21
These scientists are some of the best in their field Johnny2X2X Apr 1 #22
The gaps in my knowledge of history are enormous, but this seems like China's Cultural Revolution in which they purged LaMouffette Apr 1 #23
Chicken dinner orangecrush Apr 1 #33
NO GAP. you are spot on. riversedge Apr 1 #54
Another day, another horror Grim Chieftain Apr 1 #24
This abomination of an administration is a fucking travesty. They all need to be behind bars. Initech Apr 1 #26
Other countries are hiring Luvcatz14 Apr 1 #31
Make America Sick and Stupid Again IronLionZion Apr 1 #34
Let's all just stand back orangecrush Apr 1 #35
When we rid ourselves of Putin's Puppet (and we will), we will need to rebuild much of our federal system.. Joinfortmill Apr 1 #40
And increase taxes on the wealthy to pay for it! intrepidity Apr 1 #56
That's going on the fridge. Thank you for this. mahina Apr 2 #79
This isn't going to stop. We can't continue to delude ourselves that there is a way to bargain with these monsters. hadEnuf Apr 1 #42
Making America Greedy Again ... aggiesal Apr 1 #48
WE DON'T NEED NO ELITE SCIENCE NERDS! WASTE OF MONEY!! Wingus Dingus Apr 1 #49
This is fucking anarchy, going back to the dark ages, ffs. Dave Bowman Apr 1 #52
The Republican Party is a death cult, plain and simple. La Coliniere Apr 1 #55
Same approach as when Musk took over Twitter. maxsolomon Apr 1 #58
What will be the tipping point to make us all stand up and take our country back? Blue Owl Apr 1 #61
I know people personally involved here. Pacifist Patriot Apr 1 #62
My son n law who worked for CDC Tree Lady Apr 1 #66
Please thank him for me. It wasn't for nothing. mahina Apr 2 #80
Thanks it was going well until these Tree Lady Apr 2 #81
K&R ReRe Apr 1 #67
RFK Jr has made US weaker bmichaelh Apr 1 #68
Fucking disgusting. This is totally illegal. And devastating for our country's health. SunSeeker Apr 1 #71
Nothing should be unexpected with the current regime. live love laugh Apr 1 #72
My granddaughter is one of them. It is difficult to comfort her and we all are sad and worried how we can make it now. Jit423 Apr 1 #77
ALL of this is SO WRONG!!! liberalla Apr 2 #78

samsingh

(18,029 posts)
14. imbeciles voted them in
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:57 AM
Apr 1

ignoring what they said they were going to do,
or thinking it would only be someone else.

I fear for the world right now.

Moostache

(10,425 posts)
28. Your fears are 100% legitimate...
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:42 PM
Apr 1

We have a thing nominally in charge of the most destructive arsenal in the combined history of humanity. He is ACHING to detonate nuclear weapons (he fucking said so multiple times in his first failed administration....and yet the morons in this shit hole country somehow saw fit to return him to the office????) - EVERY SINGLE TRUMP voter - SPARE NONE - has blood on their hands already and are going to be bathed in it eventually... fuck those assholes for eternity.

Trump is the symptom, the idiocy of the average American is the disease.
The consequence is a bankrupt and shattered USA (at best) and total nuclear anihilation for all (with just a few things going wrong).

Mister Ed

(6,543 posts)
30. Nuclear annihilation possible, climate/environmental disaster certain.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:48 PM
Apr 1

They've pulled out all the stops.

ImNotGod

(610 posts)
37. I blame the billionaires backing them, the economic terrorists like musk, bezo, the tech bros.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:12 PM
Apr 1

Magoo48

(6,186 posts)
38. Whenever we pull this national clusterfuck and political sabotage out of the swamp,
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:13 PM
Apr 1

Republicans must fall into irretrievable disgrace.

haele

(14,110 posts)
60. DNA MnRA studies COVID Hoax. All those health nuts do are Woke viruses....
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:40 PM
Apr 1

That's the way the marginally motivated and bubble residents think.
If "Bubba" or "Chase" can't watch it in action in a short or it can't otherwise be broke down into short sentences, it's some sort of expensive experiment by some elitist or woke snob wasting taxpayer money.
Because, of course, if you can't understand it, those people are just bullshitting you for their own advantage.

And for those religious cultists out there, DNA is really short for "the Devil's Natural Ammunition", a philosophical lie set up to make you doubt the Creator, don't you see?

Sad , ya, I'm looking down at the American MAGA and otherwise useless non-voters out there.

yardwork

(66,110 posts)
2. Everything that made America great is being destroyed.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:23 AM
Apr 1

Our healthcare system is deeply flawed, but our infectious disease prevention, surveillance and response was a model for the world.

All gone.

The danger this puts us all in is beyond comprehension.

Mister Ed

(6,543 posts)
32. The foxes have taken over the henhouse.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:05 PM
Apr 1

Pay no attention to the flying feathers, the terrified squawking, and the thin trickle of blood down the chicken ladder. That's just a little temporary pain.

Soon, this drastic reduction in the hen force will mean much greater egg production at a fraction of the cost. Or at the very least, we'll have very, very satisfied foxes.

madinmaryland

(65,353 posts)
3. Cue up the next round of lawsuits to be filed
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:27 AM
Apr 1

Against the rump administration.

This absolutely insane.

magicarpet

(17,973 posts)
4. That is okay,...
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:34 AM
Apr 1

... these scientists will just migrate to New Zealand, Australia, Canada, and Europe where their skills and talents will be appreciated.

Team trDUMP's damage to AmeriKKKa has only just begun.

yardwork

(66,110 posts)
6. It's not that easy or simple.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:39 AM
Apr 1

A lot of these senior scientists are not going to go someplace else. They are forced into early retirement and there is no pipeline of younger scientists for them to mentor.

There is no easy fix. We're fucked.

Solly Mack

(94,692 posts)
5. Some other nation will benefit, and I hope they do. It would be the smart thing to do for them and the scientists.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:35 AM
Apr 1

The Trump Regime wants people to die. They want people sick and ignorant. They want people scared.

Easier to control.

bdamomma

(67,956 posts)
70. Solly Mack
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 10:23 PM
Apr 1

That is their goal to have people scared and easier to control, but let's not bend to them.

hlthe2b

(109,064 posts)
7. The brain drain will be something no western country has ever seen. I know some being terminated at CDC...
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:40 AM
Apr 1

and I know others by reputation. The number of deaths that could have been prevented will ultimately reach numbers never seen outside of the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic--approaching those lost in the concentration camps. No, the overt and direct act of pure evil is not there as it was with the Nazis but the scale of deaths we will see in the US over the next decade will be horrific, all the same.

The journal, Nature surveyed its most prolific (publishing) scientists last month and 75% were trying to leave.

Laurelin

(721 posts)
43. Didn't china have that thing where they purged the intelligentsia?
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:02 PM
Apr 1

Sent them off to work on farms as unskilled labor? So it's kind of been done before.

Laurelin

(721 posts)
45. True, sorry
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:10 PM
Apr 1

I was honestly trying to remember the cultural revolution, which i haven't studied since high school, not trying to criticize your post. But sorry.

TommyT139

(1,164 posts)
57. Cultural Rev(ulsion)
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:23 PM
Apr 1

You are right - and the fact that they are simultaneously attacking universities -- with a separate but synergistic attack on peaceful foreign students on visas -- helps prove your point.

Hit the federal grants, and hit the student population that tends to pay full price -- not many schools will be able to survive. And do you want to bet there are trumpist land magnates ready to snap up some of these prime properties?

NoMoreRepugs

(11,174 posts)
8. I had no idea that in 2025 we would be racing back to the 18th century and bloodletting as a cure-all.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:43 AM
Apr 1

calimary

(85,815 posts)
53. Are THOSE the "good ol' days" now?
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:24 PM
Apr 1

And double-plus bonus: in the 18th century, women were basically property. No voice. No rights. Not even considered. Benefits and self-determination for men only.

patphil

(7,649 posts)
9. Chaos is the point of all this.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:43 AM
Apr 1

Create chaos, and then declare martial law and suspend the Constitution.
Trump can pretend he's the only one that can "save" America, even though he's the one who is killing America.
Of course it has the look and feel of an abusive relationship. Use brute force to break the nation, and then rule through threats, intimidation, and violence.
Punish anyone who resists; fear is the method of choice for dictators.

dlk

(12,613 posts)
11. It's the Republican race back to the Dark Ages
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:46 AM
Apr 1

Their war on science will have long term, devastating consequences and the body count will be high.

hlthe2b

(109,064 posts)
13. These professionals put their lives on hold for two solid years of hell during COVID--much like the military
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:51 AM
Apr 1

in that Trump et al have nothing but disdain for sacrifice.

We truly are being "ruled" by the worst of mankind.

We are fucked for decades to come, yet so many of our fellow Americans are deluded into thinking otherwise.

yardwork

(66,110 posts)
17. I just scanned the Facebook posts of a MAGA relative.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:05 PM
Apr 1

Every post is a complete lie. The opposite of the truth. She believes every Trump lie.

hlthe2b

(109,064 posts)
19. I can't help but think that some/many? of us here may not live long enough to see this turn around---
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:18 PM
Apr 1

assuming, as I have to, that it will eventually turn around. That thought just takes my breath away.

Oneironaut

(5,952 posts)
16. This country doesn't need science anymore.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:04 PM
Apr 1

The writing on the wall is that we’re becoming a Biblical country that purposely tries to hide real life from the public so that we can indoctrinate extremist Christianity and a lack of reasoning in their minds.

Science and education teach people how to reason and think for themselves. We don’t want that. Everyone must unquestioningly follow religious dogma and not understand history, or, how civics work, so that they can easily be exploited for money and labor.

iluvtennis

(21,126 posts)
18. All because Dr Fauci and the other scientists stood up to the con man and told the truth during the Covid outbreak. It
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:14 PM
Apr 1

is nothing but EVIL to destroy people's lives and well being.

May karma bit Don the Con and his administration in their arses.

Initech

(104,471 posts)
27. And they're paying the price for not having their lips superglued to his ass. Fuck.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:40 PM
Apr 1

I hate this MAFIA cult that's ruining my country right now.

newdeal2

(2,269 posts)
20. Fuck the Republicans in Congress
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:19 PM
Apr 1

Most of them know better than this. But they are cowards and won’t lift a finger until it’s too late.

ShazzieB

(20,144 posts)
39. I agree.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:17 PM
Apr 1

And I am even angrier at them than I am at Schlump. Collectively, the Republicans in Congress have the power to do something about this, and they are refusing to use it. He needs to be impeached and removed from office. The power to impeach is vested in the House, and the power to convict him and remove him from office belongs to the Senate. And we all know which party controls both the House and the Senate right now.

Schlump is destroying our government and our economy, alienating our allies, and disrupting the structures that have kept the world from descending into the horror of nuclear war for the last 80 years, and those GOP nincompoops in Congress are just letting him do it!

I find it both horrifying and enraging that those nimrods can sit there pretending not to see what's happening, even lying to their constituents about it (to the extent that they communicate with their constituents at all). They've made a bargain with that Orange Hellbeast, literally sold their souls to him, together with all of our futures, and I hate loathe, and despise them for it.

sop

(13,602 posts)
41. The Republican party knows this is complete insanity. They could stop it, but are too afraid to do anything.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:22 PM
Apr 1

It's being done just to please the dumbest, least educated and most ignorant MAGA morons, there's no other discernible reason.

Johnny2X2X

(22,716 posts)
22. These scientists are some of the best in their field
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:23 PM
Apr 1

A lot of research scientists forgo more lucrative careers in the private secrot because they want to work on stuff that will do the most good for society. That's who they're purging, people who sacrificed so they work on cutting edge stuff to best help others.

Disgusting.

LaMouffette

(2,486 posts)
23. The gaps in my knowledge of history are enormous, but this seems like China's Cultural Revolution in which they purged
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:24 PM
Apr 1

professionals, scientists, and intellectuals, closed all of the schools, and empowered the ignorant.

Grim Chieftain

(76 posts)
24. Another day, another horror
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:27 PM
Apr 1

I often wonder about the suicides these mass layoffs are creating. People are losing their jobs, income, health care and security. Many are probably losing their homes, all at a time when prices are increasing, and job prospects are declining.

How long will this be allowed to continue? Is there nothing that can be done to stop this? Of course there are the midterm elections, but the damage that can be done in the meantime is unimaginable.



Initech

(104,471 posts)
26. This abomination of an administration is a fucking travesty. They all need to be behind bars.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:39 PM
Apr 1

And they can't have their precious fucking social media megaphones following them around, either.

Joinfortmill

(17,752 posts)
40. When we rid ourselves of Putin's Puppet (and we will), we will need to rebuild much of our federal system..
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:19 PM
Apr 1

intrepidity

(8,245 posts)
56. And increase taxes on the wealthy to pay for it!
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:22 PM
Apr 1

Close the loopholes! Go back to 90% tax on corporations!

That is where the problem, and solution, lies.

hadEnuf

(3,097 posts)
42. This isn't going to stop. We can't continue to delude ourselves that there is a way to bargain with these monsters.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:30 PM
Apr 1

It doesn't matter if the media caves to Trump, he will screw them anyway. Same with the Democrats. They are looking for an excuse, any excuse, to put this country under an emergency order and secure total power. They will do it whether we protest or whether we don't. It will just take longer the second way.

America is under siege.

Trump wants a civil war and we may not have a choice in it. We need to be prepared for that possibility and be able to defend and preserve democracy.

aggiesal

(9,927 posts)
48. Making America Greedy Again ...
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:13 PM
Apr 1

Taking us back to the robber barons days.
This is all about trying to pay for the Oligarchs tax break.

I would love to see (D)'s win the 2 Florida special elections today.

Maybe this bloodbath being announce today, will change some of those voters decision.

Wingus Dingus

(8,938 posts)
49. WE DON'T NEED NO ELITE SCIENCE NERDS! WASTE OF MONEY!!
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:13 PM
Apr 1

(says typical MAGA, who are almost certainly confused and conflicted about this but don't want to seem unfaithful to their god Krasnov)

maxsolomon

(36,254 posts)
58. Same approach as when Musk took over Twitter.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:30 PM
Apr 1

Just randomly cut staff, make the remaining staff pick up the pieces and figure out a way to do the same job with reduced resources. "Get Lean" or something similar.

Except in the case of USAID, when they've deleted agency and assigned its work to another place.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,953 posts)
62. I know people personally involved here.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 04:04 PM
Apr 1

Getting paid through June 02 to do fuck all until they add to the unemployment numbers.

More incompetence, cruelty, and insanity. The consequences will not be pretty.

Tree Lady

(12,349 posts)
66. My son n law who worked for CDC
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 06:54 PM
Apr 1

got his notice today, he knew it was coming.

They lied on form about his performance review giving him lower scores than he got. But as we know law suit will probably do nothing.

He worked on a special task force to try and retain good scientists and doctors so they wouldn't go to private sector. He said his entire job of the last two years was all for nothing.

mahina

(19,683 posts)
80. Please thank him for me. It wasn't for nothing.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 04:47 PM
Apr 2

We had a chance. I could’ve gone differently on the choice not to do. It would’ve ended a path forward before this fire raged.

May we heal and me all the scientists and docs endure

Tree Lady

(12,349 posts)
81. Thanks it was going well until these
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 06:38 PM
Apr 2

layoffs. Kyle is a really good guy, he is a retired military officer Lt Colonel and a friend told him about job, it was mostly at home, they live in Texas, but he flew to Atlanta for meetings once a month.

He's been job hunting but a lot are looking and Texas not easy for good paying. People on base said they would hire him civilian job if military freeze came off but that probably won't happen.

bmichaelh

(769 posts)
68. RFK Jr has made US weaker
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 10:03 PM
Apr 1

First, I heard many of the researchers are seeking employment in Europe.

Even if the next President is a Democrat, it might take a generation to reverse.

The next discovery may come from Europe and not USA.

RFK Jr and Trump have made this nation weaker

This is terrible from the country of Jonas Salk.

Second, shame on the Senators who trusted RFK Jr.

There is no more
mercy in him than there is milk in a male tiger.
--Shakespeare, Coriolanus 5.4.28-29



Jit423

(1,175 posts)
77. My granddaughter is one of them. It is difficult to comfort her and we all are sad and worried how we can make it now.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:28 PM
Apr 1

Our family cannot afford a non-working family but we all will pitch in and stretch those dollars.

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