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MayReasonRule

(2,996 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 07:46 AM Apr 3

Bat Shit Crazy Rand Paul Drops The Mic Of Reason



When McKinley, most famously, put tariffs on in 1890, they lost 50% of their seats in the next election,” Rand Paul said. “When Smoot and Hawley put on their tariff in the early 1930s, we lost the House and the Senate for 60 years. So they’re not only bad economically, they’re bad politically.”



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Bat Shit Crazy Rand Paul Drops The Mic Of Reason (Original Post) MayReasonRule Apr 3 OP
They now control the election process kerouac2 Apr 3 #1
An Interesting Supposition... I'm Curious... What Do You Think Just Happened In Wisconsin's Supreme Court Election? MayReasonRule Apr 3 #3
State election. Not federal. AllyCat Apr 3 #13
Time Will Tell -- Your Fear Is Reason Based -- Allow Your Reason To Continue To Guide You MayReasonRule Apr 3 #20
Time Will Tell -- Steel Your Resolve -- Embrace Those You Love MayReasonRule Apr 3 #23
Technically all elections are state elections ITAL Apr 3 #25
Trump is demanding that states send him their voter rolls MadameButterfly Apr 3 #19
Elon actually helped sunnybrook Apr 3 #38
He helped regarding publice opinion MadameButterfly Apr 4 #45
The election process is controlled by the States. Ace Rothstein Apr 3 #5
Right now. AllyCat Apr 3 #11
Did they control Wisconsin? sunnybrook Apr 3 #37
My family cannot wait sixty years superpatriotman Apr 3 #2
If we get 60 year control of House and Senate, then I think the tariffs will have been worth it! (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 3 #21
We need FDR sunnybrook Apr 3 #39
The Auto Industry here in MI Johnny2X2X Apr 3 #4
Indeed. I Remember Reading About JIT In Fast Company Back In 1980... MayReasonRule Apr 3 #7
I worked on that industry for 30 years. multigraincracker Apr 3 #8
Laughing My Ass Off... MayReasonRule Apr 3 #18
JADTL Yonnie3 Apr 3 #28
At our plant they built up seats in plant. multigraincracker Apr 3 #33
Libertarians find all taxes (whether good or bad) to be an anathema. Tommy Carcetti Apr 3 #6
The truth is Taxes are the cost of civilization. multigraincracker Apr 3 #9
Indeed. Taxes Are The "Multi Grains" That "Make The Bread" MayReasonRule Apr 3 #41
This joke sums up Libertarians perfectly... GiqueCee Apr 3 #14
Well Done!! MayReasonRule Apr 3 #17
Another one: A Libertarian is what animal? yardwork Apr 3 #22
Ayn Rand died broke on welfare. multigraincracker Apr 3 #35
That chain-smoking psycho bitch from Hell... GiqueCee Apr 3 #42
I traveled with a PhD that wrote a book about her. multigraincracker Apr 3 #43
Alisa Rosenbaum... GiqueCee Apr 4 #44
Good Analogies, But Even That Clock is Right Twice a Day The Roux Comes First Apr 3 #36
Rare day when I agree with Rand Paul. Emile Apr 3 #10
I Spit Out My Coffee... MayReasonRule Apr 3 #16
I Hope So angrychair Apr 3 #12
They always miss the reason Smoot-Hawley caused them to loose, they created the Great Depression. LiberalArkie Apr 3 #15
+1 dalton99a Apr 3 #24
The world is truly weird when aqua buddha makes sense. niyad Apr 3 #26
What?............ Lovie777 Apr 3 #27
Break's over, Rand Paul. Go back to fucking yourself. (nt) Paladin Apr 3 #29
But retirees must be excited to lose their 401K and social security at the same time, right? IronLionZion Apr 3 #30
A Fire Sale For Oligarchs - This Is Rape, Pillage And Plunder MayReasonRule Apr 3 #31
This is one of the few times I hope his history lesson carries over to the republicans for the next 60 years in losses. JohnSJ Apr 3 #32
All so their blue-wave Apr 3 #34
It's YOUR party, Rand. Otterdaemmerung Apr 3 #40

kerouac2

(1,146 posts)
1. They now control the election process
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 07:51 AM
Apr 3

So it's apples to oranges.

There are no consequences for these thugs anyway.

MayReasonRule

(2,996 posts)
3. An Interesting Supposition... I'm Curious... What Do You Think Just Happened In Wisconsin's Supreme Court Election?
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 08:08 AM
Apr 3

Did " "they" " control the Wisconsin's Supreme Court's Election outcome?

I do not see that " "they" " did.

What do you see?

MayReasonRule

(2,996 posts)
20. Time Will Tell -- Your Fear Is Reason Based -- Allow Your Reason To Continue To Guide You
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:29 AM
Apr 3

May reason always be our guide so that reason may rule.

It's gonna' be a long road ahead.

MayReasonRule

(2,996 posts)
23. Time Will Tell -- Steel Your Resolve -- Embrace Those You Love
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:31 AM
Apr 3

We can make it through.. .. together.

ITAL

(1,004 posts)
25. Technically all elections are state elections
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:33 AM
Apr 3

States run them after all. Even the Electoral College fits in with the idea as it's 50 (or 51 with Washington DC) state contests, administered and run by states.

MadameButterfly

(2,752 posts)
19. Trump is demanding that states send him their voter rolls
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:28 AM
Apr 3

He's working on it. States need to refuse. There are court challenges.
There is also a Democratic Governor in Wisconsin. We may start to see Red states become corrupt while Blue state elections remain fair.
Trump however will seek revenge on Blue states. They just went after Social Security contracts in Maine over some comments by the Governor about transgender in sports. What will he do to states that don't comply wiwth his wishes on elections?

Prepare for a battle ahead. Secure those voting machines. Keep voting accessible. Protect the voter rolls. and keep Elon far far away.

MadameButterfly

(2,752 posts)
45. He helped regarding publice opinion
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 09:36 PM
Apr 4

or at least didn't hurt despite the money. But I'm worried about Starlink or his twenty-something hackers having anything to do with the vote counting.

sunnybrook

(1,258 posts)
37. Did they control Wisconsin?
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:42 AM
Apr 3

I live here and it seems like something good happened this week...

thesquanderer

(12,559 posts)
21. If we get 60 year control of House and Senate, then I think the tariffs will have been worth it! (n/t)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:29 AM
Apr 3

Johnny2X2X

(22,715 posts)
4. The Auto Industry here in MI
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 08:15 AM
Apr 3

The Trump regime knows nothing, they have no idea how business works and how supply chains are managed.

JIT to them means Jesus I'm Tired. The tier 2 auto suppliers just had a bomb dropped on their factories. These are factories that are fast paced, rely on just in time delivery to hold costs down, and they work with tiny margins. They simply aren't set up to absorb a cost shock like this without laying people off. JIT means these tariffs effects are almost immediate.

My brother helps run one of the largest tool and die shops in the Midwest, they are a tier 2 auto supplier, means they supply to the tier 1s who supply to the OEMs. They're holding an emergency meeting this weekend, my brother thinks it's to tell 3rd shift they no longer have jobs. A deep recession is almost here.

MayReasonRule

(2,996 posts)
7. Indeed. I Remember Reading About JIT In Fast Company Back In 1980...
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 08:50 AM
Apr 3
In the 1980s, "Fast Company" magazine, along with other business publications, extensively covered the rise of "just-in-time" (JIT) manufacturing, a Japanese-developed system focused on minimizing inventory and waste by delivering materials only when needed.


In 1980, Fujio Cho (later President of Toyota Motor Corp.) presented at Ford's International Headquarters in Detroit, detailing Toyota's production system and the advantages of Just-In-Time (JIT) and the Toyota Production System (TPS), which was a key moment in introducing JIT to the US and other developed countries.


I see "their" goal as being destruction of all they can and acquiring what's left at fire sale prices.

There is nothing that "they" are planning that is beneficial for our nation's populace.

multigraincracker

(35,394 posts)
8. I worked on that industry for 30 years.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:01 AM
Apr 3

I use to call it All Most In Time. That’s how
W it worked back then.

Yonnie3

(18,533 posts)
28. JADTL
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:47 AM
Apr 3

Just A Day Too Late was our acronym.

I recall an instance at the GE plant around 1980, where a shipment of memory chips came in a week earlier than scheduled. The receiving department returned them to the vendor as required by management. Memory chips were in very short supply and the vendor immediately resold them. One week later, production employees were give a temporary lack of work layoff.

Cue spot market replacement chips purchased at ten times the cost. Cue low yields in production. Cue massive field issues.

Just one story

multigraincracker

(35,394 posts)
33. At our plant they built up seats in plant.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:05 AM
Apr 3

Then they thought they could have them built up across town in the proper order, delivering them in order. Just unload the trucks and install them. One day, somehow a truck passed the first one all the seats were installed in the wrong order. Blue cars had red seats. Expensive models had cheap seats. Made a lot of overtime changing them.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,842 posts)
6. Libertarians find all taxes (whether good or bad) to be an anathema.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 08:40 AM
Apr 3

And he just stumbled across a very bad tax.

It's a blind squirrel, broken clock type of moment.

GiqueCee

(2,107 posts)
14. This joke sums up Libertarians perfectly...
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:11 AM
Apr 3

... A little boy tells his mother, "When I grow up, I'm gonna be a Libertarian!"
She replies, "Well, which is it going to be? You can't do both!"

Ba-dum-bum-bum.

yardwork

(66,110 posts)
22. Another one: A Libertarian is what animal?
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:30 AM
Apr 3

Answer: A house cat. They both think they're fiercely independent and self-sufficient, while being wholly dependent on a system they neither appreciate nor understand.

GiqueCee

(2,107 posts)
42. That chain-smoking psycho bitch from Hell...
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:21 PM
Apr 3

... HATED altruism and empathy, just like the Shithead of the Hour, Elon Musk.
My employers at the time were movers and shakers in the Boston "Objectivist" community, and strongly encouraged me to read her doorstop novels, that could have been entitled "Fountainhead Shrugged", so similar were the plots and characters. Her essays were disturbing, especially the one in which she expressed admiration for a child rapist and murderer. But the one that sealed my contempt for her was "The Virtue of Selfishness", a mercifully short book that plumbed new depths of malice and greed.
Shit. Now I have to go wash my brain after thinking about her.

multigraincracker

(35,394 posts)
43. I traveled with a PhD that wrote a book about her.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:58 PM
Apr 3

My favorite story her was about her love life. She was all for open marriage. But when her partner and number two in her organization tried it, she went nuts and kicked him out.
In the end she changed her name back to original one and went on every government program available. Worlds greatest hypocrite.

GiqueCee

(2,107 posts)
44. Alisa Rosenbaum...
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:44 AM
Apr 4

... was a horrible person, and a 3rd-rate novelist. Yet there are still deluded souls that think the Sun shines out of her bony dead ass. Go figure.

The Roux Comes First

(1,662 posts)
36. Good Analogies, But Even That Clock is Right Twice a Day
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:24 AM
Apr 3

Far more frequently than any performance by yam-ass.

angrychair

(10,517 posts)
12. I Hope So
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:04 AM
Apr 3
We lost the House and the Senate for 60 years - Rand Paul


That would be a day, a week, a month, a 60 years, worth living for, now wouldn't it?

niyad

(123,146 posts)
26. The world is truly weird when aqua buddha makes sense.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:35 AM
Apr 3

and look how his precious curlytop is thinning.

JohnSJ

(98,362 posts)
32. This is one of the few times I hope his history lesson carries over to the republicans for the next 60 years in losses.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:04 AM
Apr 3

blue-wave

(4,573 posts)
34. All so their
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:06 AM
Apr 3

rich boy buddies can buy everything at fire sale prices and watch it all go up in price when the tariffs are rescinded in a few weeks/days. The problem is, with the economy already tottering, will enough economic damage be done that rescinding the tariffs won't matter and a depression begins. We'll see.

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