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Pototan

(2,990 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 12:37 AM Apr 2025

Wall Street Set to Open Lower Again

The futures market is set to open lower again this morning. But the interesting thing on this link is the "mood dial" in the upper left-hand corner. It reflects the number 8, which indicates that investors are in extreme fear. I don't know about you, but "extreme fear" sounds pretty serious to me.

Link:
https://edition.cnn.com/markets/premarkets

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Wall Street Set to Open Lower Again (Original Post) Pototan Apr 2025 OP
Wow, they've gotten much better flamingdem Apr 2025 #1
I guess your reply post Pototan Apr 2025 #8
Whoa, look out below! flamingdem Apr 2025 #9
pretty good little bounce so far jmbar2 Apr 2025 #2
Minus 143 on the Dow at 2:36 AM EDT Pototan Apr 2025 #3
Ditch the Dow 30. It was created for adding machines in early 1900s. Use the S&P 500 Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #5
When sentiment gets extreme it sometimes means people have already made their move. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #4
Spectator sport for me, though it was happier spectating a week ago DFW Apr 2025 #6
I bought my first shares of stock in 1985 or so jmbar2 Apr 2025 #7

flamingdem

(40,793 posts)
1. Wow, they've gotten much better
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 01:26 AM
Apr 2025

So things might not be as dire as they looked a few hours ago

Pototan

(2,990 posts)
3. Minus 143 on the Dow at 2:36 AM EDT
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 01:39 AM
Apr 2025

that's not so good following a 1,600-point drop.

I'm not rooting for a collapse. I am retired and one of my income streams is linked to the market in an annuity. So, a drop fucks me too. I'm just following the market.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
5. Ditch the Dow 30. It was created for adding machines in early 1900s. Use the S&P 500
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:30 AM
Apr 2025

The Dow is only 30 stocks and it is price-weighted.

The S&P 500 is 500 stocks and it is market capitalization weighted.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
4. When sentiment gets extreme it sometimes means people have already made their move.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:27 AM
Apr 2025

It looks like that indicator is calculated from about 7 measures. It may be less of a sentiment indicator than the VIX which is the volatility index.

The S&P futures overnight have moved between -0.91 % and -0.05 %. It may settle down more as the opening draws near. At this writing it is -0.43 %.

I would not be surprised if Friday is a bit of an up day before a decline Monday. But I don't know. It could easily be up Friday and Monday both or down both.

Some important data drops Friday (figures are estimate and previous reading from February):

8:30 am U.S. employment report March 140,000 151,000
8:30 am U.S. unemployment rate March 4.1% 4.1%
8:30 am U.S. hourly wages March 0.3% 0.3%
8:30 am Hourly wages year over year 3.9% 4.0%
11:25 am Fed Chairman Jerome Powell speaks

DFW

(59,729 posts)
6. Spectator sport for me, though it was happier spectating a week ago
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:49 AM
Apr 2025

I bought some stock in 1998 and have hardly touched it since. I received “expert advice” from a major broker to ditch what had become of 500 shares of Apple bought in 1998 at $38. Following their expert advice cost me about $2 million (if I had not sold), so since then, I just watch. I no longer buy or sell. What I have left, I bought so long ago, that if I sold today, 90% of the sale would be gains and subject to a big tax bill. It’s not enough to buy a fancy Italian race car (don’t care anyway), a McMansion in a fancy neighborhood (don’t care anyway), or a small yacht (don’t care anyway), so it’s just paper. Numbers on a screen. I’ll just have to wait for the next Democratic president or die trying. I’d rather the tax bill be paid to President Buttigieg than to president Musk.

jmbar2

(7,611 posts)
7. I bought my first shares of stock in 1985 or so
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:51 AM
Apr 2025

My dad was a CPA and recommended something. I don't even remember what it was. When the 1987 drop happened, he said, "Don't sell. This will pass". I was freaked out and sold at almost a total loss on a tiny little investment.

He was right. How I wish I had listened to him.

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