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riversedge

(74,966 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:48 PM Apr 4

Trump's tariffs are a 'negotiating tool' and won't be in effect 'long term': Republican lawmaker

Workers lives are being destroyed--and it is ok with Republicans.
damn them!!


Trump’s tariffs are a ‘negotiating tool’ and won’t be in effect ‘long term’: Republican lawmaker
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-s-tariffs-are-a-negotiating-tool-and-won-t-be-in-effect-long-term-republican-lawmaker-236440133793


Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) says he believes President Trump’s tariffs could be an “effective negotiating tool.” Rep. Lawler also discusses the legislation he co-sponsored to allow new parents to vote by proxy, saying they should not be “precluded from doing their job.”April 3, 2025



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Trump's tariffs are a 'negotiating tool' and won't be in effect 'long term': Republican lawmaker (Original Post) riversedge Apr 4 OP
And in the meantime politicians line their pockets Hope22 Apr 4 #1
Dufus. BootinUp Apr 4 #2
Thats hoping that the person to whom you want to negotiate with will Historic NY Apr 4 #3
If TSF were bluffing during Poker, he'd lose every hand. no_hypocrisy Apr 4 #4
MAGA self-soothing newdeal2 Apr 4 #5
Exactly. The rest of the world will form bushalert Apr 4 #7
All he's doing is isolating us. No one is going to negotiate. Tootbsb Apr 4 #6
Domination more like it SARose Apr 4 #8
No matter what Trump does with his tariffs now, the tone is set. Jit423 Apr 4 #9
Maybe Lawler thinks the tooth fairy will bring income to people laid off due to Trump crashing our economy? Attilatheblond Apr 4 #10
Who the h*ll would negotiate with Trump, who already reneged on the signed USMCA trade deal? crimycarny Apr 4 #11
The only tool is Lawler. * 617Blue Apr 4 #12
Trump panics, pushes Lawler out to say the horror is temporary. nt delisen Apr 4 #18
How 'long' do you estimate, Mike? Norrrm Apr 4 #13
IT'S ALREADY TOO LONG spanone Apr 4 #14
That was a great line during the election Johonny Apr 4 #15
In other words, the tariffs are blackmail. brer cat Apr 4 #16
We are entering a new world order. I am betting on the Europeans moving center stage. delisen Apr 4 #17
How the hell does he know that? Did TSF tell him? TSF hardly knows what he's gonna do from day to day, Sogo Apr 4 #19
So you shoot yourself in both feet C_U_L8R Apr 4 #20
They always count on other people being resonable Renew Deal Apr 4 #21
Did Rep. Lawler sign the Grover Norquist pledge Emile Apr 4 #22
Pay to play Blue Full Moon Apr 4 #23
Dumbf@#k! nt NEOH Apr 4 #24
How would Mike Lawler react if somebody kicked him in the nuts and bystanders struggle4progress Apr 4 #25
So a competent journo would immediately drill down as to what is the SPECIFIC goal RockRaven Apr 5 #26
Was this you, Rep. Lawler? tanyev Apr 5 #27
This fucking bozo had a great Dem opponent (Mondaire Jones)who should have won Prairie Gates Apr 5 #28
BULLSHIT! sakabatou Apr 5 #29
Trumpy will use them again and again to get what he wants, to NoMoreRepugs Apr 5 #30
Arrogant idiot thinks the world will meekly play along and make concessions without consequences unblock Apr 5 #31

Hope22

(3,882 posts)
1. And in the meantime politicians line their pockets
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:50 PM
Apr 4

At the expense of the American people and the rest of the global community. It’s a game to them. Crushing souls ……

Historic NY

(38,797 posts)
3. Thats hoping that the person to whom you want to negotiate with will
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:50 PM
Apr 4

Canada isn't going back. we need more from them then they do from us.

no_hypocrisy

(51,081 posts)
4. If TSF were bluffing during Poker, he'd lose every hand.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:51 PM
Apr 4

Whatcha gonna do when all those foreign investors pull out of the U.S.? No more business? No more foreign customers?

newdeal2

(2,268 posts)
5. MAGA self-soothing
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:55 PM
Apr 4

No you idiot, this is what he believes. And now that countries know the US is not a trusted partner, they will look at alternatives.

The damage is done, permanently.

bushalert

(239 posts)
7. Exactly. The rest of the world will form
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:00 PM
Apr 4

new trading alliances and no longer depend on the US market. We are screwed. This new reality will outlive Trump.

Tootbsb

(95 posts)
6. All he's doing is isolating us. No one is going to negotiate.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:56 PM
Apr 4

They’re done with American stupidity. Who can blame them. Baron won't outlive this stink. Permanent damage to the country in every way shape form and fashion.

The black lady didn’t wipe out 9 trillion in two days in the stock market, that is the convicted felon and rapist currently ruling.

Jit423

(1,175 posts)
9. No matter what Trump does with his tariffs now, the tone is set.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:04 PM
Apr 4

There is no guarantee that the countries he outrageously tariffed will respond in like manner when Trump lowers the tariffs. By then, angry countries will have made all kinds of deals with each other to ban together to protect themselves from US aggressive economic moves. We don't make a damn thing except guns and other weapons and some planes that are fucked up. Our farmers, except for black family farmers, are subsidized to nth degree and most of what we grow and export is bad for your health...soy.

And now our cyber security is at risk because the best people have been fired on the advice of vampire-witchy-looking nitwit. I guess this is part of the plan to allow Putin to interfere in our coming elections?

All in all, we are screwed. I believe our last hope was gone when so many refused to vote for Kamala. Maybe one of those tornados will pick up Mar a lago while that 1M dollar dinner is going on?

Attilatheblond

(5,610 posts)
10. Maybe Lawler thinks the tooth fairy will bring income to people laid off due to Trump crashing our economy?
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:07 PM
Apr 4

We need fewer idiots in Congress.

crimycarny

(1,767 posts)
11. Who the h*ll would negotiate with Trump, who already reneged on the signed USMCA trade deal?
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:08 PM
Apr 4

No Country is going to negotiate with a man known to lie and break every contract he's ever signed. He just did it with Canada and Mexico! Why in the world would the leader of any country negotiate with Trump? As soon as the leader of that country said something that p*ssed Trump off, Trump would break the deal out of pique.

Countries will all form alliances and leave the US out of the loop.

Johonny

(23,286 posts)
15. That was a great line during the election
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:20 PM
Apr 4

Now they are reality and other countries aren't lining up to renegotiate. They are denouncing us an canceling fighter jet sales . . .

The whole world has one clear target for anger. Trump. The least likable, mean, angry, ugly human on the planet. Do they need to kiss his ass or simply make him the bad guy or role he wants to play. Seems like the person that needs to kiss assessors is him.

delisen

(6,912 posts)
17. We are entering a new world order. I am betting on the Europeans moving center stage.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:30 PM
Apr 4

We are fortunate that Canada has close ties with the U.K. and Europe. Mexico is strengthening its ties with Europe and has strengthened its democracy while we were sinking in the MAGA mire.

So our two continental land border countries may be in a position to help us from sinking further down. I am grateful to those who post here on the news in these two countries. Thank you.



Sogo

(6,173 posts)
19. How the hell does he know that? Did TSF tell him? TSF hardly knows what he's gonna do from day to day,
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:39 PM
Apr 4

let alone long term....Businesses need a stable government, or they just shut down....

C_U_L8R

(47,030 posts)
20. So you shoot yourself in both feet
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:42 PM
Apr 4

to gain a better negotiating position??
You must fancy yourself some kind of jeanious or sumtin.

Blue Full Moon

(2,003 posts)
23. Pay to play
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 11:20 PM
Apr 4

Trump's tariff taxes are to enforce his pay to play. He's forcing companies to crawl to him and grovel. Then he will remove the tariff from them, and the people not following what is going on will think that he improved the economy.

struggle4progress

(122,590 posts)
25. How would Mike Lawler react if somebody kicked him in the nuts and bystanders
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 11:50 PM
Apr 4

advised him to chill out because it only seemed to be "negotiating tactic"?

RockRaven

(17,118 posts)
26. So a competent journo would immediately drill down as to what is the SPECIFIC goal
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:01 AM
Apr 5

or target of such negotiations, what is the measure of success/failure or compliance/noncompliance, what is the relevant industry or product, for each unique country (after all, the rates are all different!).

IF this is a negotiation tactic then these answers would be readily available. There should be an immediate, no babble, no dissembling, bing-bang-boom clean answer. What is the negotiation goal with those fucking penguin-inhabited islands? What is the negotiation goal with an island only occupied by a US military base? ASK THESE QUESTIONS, YOU HACKS!

tanyev

(46,034 posts)
27. Was this you, Rep. Lawler?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:14 AM
Apr 5

Anonymous senior GOP official Nov. 10, 2020:

Speaking about President Trump’s and his legal team’s myriad and baseless claims of massive voter fraud, an anonymous senior Republican official offered a rhetorical shrug.

“What is the downside for humoring him for this little bit of time? No one seriously thinks the results will change,” the official said. “He went golfing this weekend. It’s not like he’s plotting how to prevent Joe Biden from taking power on Jan. 20. He’s tweeting about filing some lawsuits, those lawsuits will fail, then he’ll tweet some more about how the election was stolen, and then he’ll leave.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/10/whats-downside-humoring-him-gop-officials-unintentionally-revealing-quote-about-trump-era/

Prairie Gates

(4,776 posts)
28. This fucking bozo had a great Dem opponent (Mondaire Jones)who should have won
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:19 AM
Apr 5

Mike Lawler is a red-nose, bicycle-horn honking clown.

If you say it is just a negotiating tool and you won't keep it in place long, then it ceases to serve its purpose as a negotiating tool. And it's also not good that the next Republican Trump supporting moron is saying "Oh, we're definitely keeping them in place long term - manufacturing will start moving back to the USA in three-four YEARS." YEARS, now! The problem, of course, is that even the Trumpies themselves don't know which it is (temporary negotiating tool or long-term economic plan) because they are incompetent idiots and have zero expertise beyond convincing other idiots of stupid things on the Internet.

unblock

(54,955 posts)
31. Arrogant idiot thinks the world will meekly play along and make concessions without consequences
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:43 AM
Apr 5

Other countries are quickly enacting retaliatory tariffs. Donnie can't make those go away. Even if Donnie reversed everything, other countries would be on firm ground to keep some of them in place as punishment, to deter us from pulling a stunt like this again.

Worse, they are moving swiftly to create a trading environment that doesn't rely on America. Donnie permanently demoted us from the world's most preferred trading partner all the way down to highly unreliable and dangerous trading partner.

It will take decades of democratic leadership to fully restore world trust in America.

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