They were not deported.

[Tootbsb]

Can we stop calling these atrocities "deportations." These people sold to El Salvadorian prisons were not deported. Deportation is a process that did not take place. They were rounded up and removed with no process. They were kidnapped, not deported.
https://bsky.app/profile/rmayemsinger.bsky.social/post/3lmb3zp74jc2i

[Lovie777]

1. Thank you.................

[elliesmandt]

32. Freedom

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"--Kris Kristofferson

[Maru Kitteh]

43. YES! They were kidnapped NOT arrested, removed NOT deported!

Arrest and deportation are legal acts. What is done to these people in most cases is neither arrest (no warrant) nor deportation (requires a hearing) so BY DEFINITION they are NOT legal acts.

[GoodRaisin]

2. Krasnov is a monster.

[Scrivener7]

3. AND there was NO due process involved. They were kidnapped and immediately shipped off to

Salvadorean torture prisons.

There's an idea circulating around DU that Garcia is being given due process.

It's ridiculous. Due process to justify a kidnapping and sale of a person AFTER the kidnapping and sale take place is by definition NOT due process.

[Wounded Bear]

4. I was thinking renditioned, but not a time for a semantic argument...

I consider that term because Bush set the precedent that we can sweep people up and move them to foreign shores without due process because they are "undesirables." trump has just upped the numbers.

[JoseBalow]

5. deport - To expel from a country.

Do words have meanings?

deport /dĭ-pôrt′/
transitive verb

- To expel from a country.
"deported the foreigner who had entered the country illegally."
- To behave or conduct (oneself) in a given manner; comport.
- To transport; to carry away; to exile; to send into banishment; to expel (from a region or country).
Similar: deported

[maxsolomon]

8. I guess words are fungible on DU.

"It's not a deportation unless there's due process" is a distinction without a difference.

[Irish_Dem]

9. Usually people who are deported out of a country are not sold to torture prisons in another country.

[Hornedfrog2000]

10. Eh,

That would be the concrete definition of the word. Not exactly the same thing.

[Cirsium]

17. Nope

Deportation is a legal term that refers to the process of removing a non-citizen from the United States. Deportation occurs based on an order from the federal government when a non-citizen, also referred to as an “immigrant,” or “alien,” commits a serious crime or violates immigration laws. Deportation must follow a specific legal process in which the alien has certain rights. To explore this concept, consider the following deportation definition

https://legaldictionary.net/deportation/

[paleotn]

25. Is there no more context?

In this context, deportation is NOT the correct word.

[Torchlight]

26. Exile - the expulsion or banishment of a person from their land

by authoritative decree, often for political reasons or as a punishment

a: the state or a period of forced absence from one's country or home
b: the state or a period of voluntary absence from one's country or home.

Words have meaning, and also often illustrate predispositions. So yeah, I'll avoid the use of 'deportation' in favor of 'exile.'

[JoseBalow]

34. That does seem quite accurate

[ToxMarz]

28. Yes deport is a verb

And laws are not verbs. He was not legally deported though physically he was.

[many a good man]

42. The correct legal term might be "extraordinary rendition"

Anybody remember that phrase from the Iraq war times?

Extraordinary rendition is a euphemistically-named policy of state-sponsored abduction in a foreign jurisdiction and transfer to a third state. The best-known use of extraordinary rendition is in a United States-led program during the War on Terror, which circumvented the source country's laws on interrogation, detention, extradition and/or torture. Extraordinary rendition is a type of extraterritorial abduction, but not all extraterritorial abductions include transfer to a third country.

Wiki

The only difference is we're abducting people in our own country instead of a foreign nation. Maybe it should be called extra-extraordinary rendition.

[GreenWave]

6. More Malice in Blunderland.

First get rid of them, then no trial.

[Mossfern]

12. Just like the Red Queen!

"Sentence first—verdict afterwards."

[marble falls]

7. "Due process" is not a part of a Bill of Rights that consists only of a Second Amendment.

[Hekate]

11. Spaniards & South Americans know exactly what to call these people: Desaparecidos

For shame, USA, for shame

[lastlib]

22. Los Desaparecidos

Sadly, it's now our country.

[pandr32]

13. Human trafficking.

[LittleGirl]

14. Bingo, human trafficking

Rounded up, stripped and put on a plane to another country.
We are running a concentration camp abroad.
I’m grossed out and out of my mind angry.

[lastlib]

23. The American Gulag Archipelago. n/t

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

35. This is sickening! Dehumanizing people in an effort

to justify inhumane treatment. I hate that this makes me wish some R senator or rep would accidentally be taken away like this. Injustice & cruelty is fine with them until it affects them. Let them see what it's like.

[bluestarone]

27. YES, if recieved money, it's

Human trafficking. YES! Edit to add. It's kinda like slavery. Seems like these MAGA'S like this time period.

[ClarencesBrother]

15. I don't think kidnapping is appropriate

If money exchanged hands that’s usually referred to as slave marketing!!

[wordstroken]

16. That's what I was thinking, too. Slave marketing. Horrendous!

[GoYouPackersGo]

18. I'm sure several/most of the stolen people are dead by now.

So, murder.

[Figarosmom]

19. They were sold

It's called human trafficking.

[SSJVegeta]

20. Truth.

They were kidnapped and sent to what one can only describe as death camps.

[Evolve Dammit]

21. 6 million a year was agreed to for EACH prisoner. Our taxes are paying for this. And the illegality denying

due process makes our country a farcical joke.
The outrageous part is the Quote from Drumpf being all in, to put American citizens in El Salvadorian for-profit prisons. The gaggle on AF-1 and in the Oval does not ask these questions anymore, because most are afraid for their jobs or have been replaced by RW media outlets lobbing softballs.

[airplaneman]

38. Actually it was 6 million for 300 people for one year or $25K per person. Not all 300 were sent though. n/t.

[Evolve Dammit]

47. that was not the figure I heard quoted but I'll take your word for it.

[Clouds Passing]

24. They were kidnapped and sold into slavery.

[Zackzzzz]

29. How about Disappeared or Stolen or Removed

I agree with Rounded Up, as well.
Kidnapped is not always about money.
And with a kidnap, there is a back and forth.
These people have been Disappeared.

[C_U_L8R]

30. Shanghai'd. But not to Shanghai.

El Salvador'd?

It's a crime against humanity is what it is.

[moniss]

31. Given the criminal nature of the government of El Salvador

and the drugs, human trafficking etc. that moves through that region it begs the question of whether some of the fascists here are cutting themselves in or if a few "girls for the parties" was part of the deal for El Salvador agreeing to take all of these people. Given the history of Crumb The 1st with his "Teen Beauty Pageant" and Epstein I have little doubt about what "interests" him.

[kacekwl]

33. Other countries should charge them with

human rights violations. They need to face severe consequences for this. Prison at least.

[enid602]

36. Disappeared

“They were kidnapped, not deported.”. This is much to kind. These immigrants were ‘disappeared’. Without due process.

[et tu]

37. we can bandy

more words when we are all in the camp

[Tootbsb]

46. These types have waited us into this situation.

Like semantics changes a god damn thing.

[ReRe]

39. It's simple:

It's Trump's bigoted white supremacy policy of "disappearing" people who don't look like him. Period.

[intheflow]

40. They were human trafficked.

Kidnapped and sold into slavery. Why is no one using this defense?

[OldBaldy1701E]

41. Hear Hear!

https://i.postimg.cc/cLxN2w4j/temp-Imagen-GICOe.avif

[LymphocyteLover]

44. you could even say they were sold into slavery

[thomski64]

45. ..outsourced Auschwitz!!