Holy Fuck CBS News! "No one knows what 'due process' will mean?"

[maxrandb]

Discussing the Supreme Court opinion saying deportations can continue under the Alien Enemies Act, but must provide "due process", the male spokesmodel said to the other male spokesmodel; "so, they must have due process, but there is disagreement about what that might entail". The other male spokesmodel replied; "yes, there is some "confusion" to what that means"

Gee CBS, if only you had some fucking 250 year old document, and 250 years of fucking historical precedent to look at to clear up the "confusion".

It's OK though. I am sure Inside Edition is going to do a story about Kim Kardashians struggle with butt implants, or the Golden Shower Bachelor is giving out a rose tonight.

[stopdiggin]

1. the 'constitution' now gives us a prescription for what due process

looks like in this case?
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(or, alternatively - we fully expect this administration to find their own way there - out of a new found sense of decency and respect .. ?)

[efhmc]

2. If there is confusion within the ranks of the stupid presenters, hire one of your MAGA lawyers to explain it.

That will help no one.

[markodochartaigh]

3. US electorate:

"Pass the hamberders, I'm going to watch the sportsball replay."

[sop]

27. Marx's "Religion is the opium of the people" is now "Sports is the opium of the U.S. Electorate."

[consider_this]

4. CBS ignored...

from my observation, reporting on the massive, nationwide, 4/5 protests. On the Monday am CBS morning news (national), I watched for a full 30 min from the start of the program at 7 am. It was weather, tariffs, and basketball. Not one peep about the massive protest by american citizens across the country over the weekend. I turned it off in disgust.

[Bengus81]

29. Still in em..."negotiations" with Trump. Didn't want to rile the fuhrer with tacky protest vids

[Irish_Dem]

5. No one will know what free speech, free press, etc mean either.

[moniss]

6. Right before they head over to do a recipe segment. nt

[Silent Type]

7. CBS is absolutely correct. We don't know how DOJ will handle this and it's doubtful immigrants will get a fair hearing.

For all we know, trump will appoint special courts with judges appointed from Proud Boys, Oafkeepers, 3%ers, Klan, trump's family, etc.

[Ponietz]

9. Due process has always been a nebulous concept in administrative law hearings

CBS is correct.

[radical noodle]

38. Trump will do everything in his power

(and some powers they don't actually legally have) to stymie due process.

[ffr]

8. K&R

Let the fire out.

We are living through times none of us ever imagined could have come true in our lifetimes.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

23. Sooooooooo much this! ⬆️

I never thought it was going fast enough, but I believed that we, the human race, were heading in the right direction--toward more enlightenment!

I knew there were MAGATs, or whatever they were calling themselves at any given time, out there. But I had no idea there were so many of them!

The internet was supposed to spread knowledge. Instead, it spread clickbait & conspiracy theories. What a tragic turn of events.

[spike jones]

10. As Bull from Night Court said, " I thought due process was how they made Velveeta cheese."

[Passages]

11. Perfect example of corporate media.

[dchill]

12. Well, as we all know, the Constitution means exactly...

...what Trump and Bondi say it means. I thought that was made clear already.

[DENVERPOPS]

31. I Swear these Republican CABAL women

that the Republican Party/Trump surround themselves with.........WTF?????????????????

They are in the middle to end, of their mid life crisis. They go out and get copious plastic surgery on their faces, Lipo on their Bodies,
the required "REPUBLICAN RACK", become perfect hand maidens, stepford wives, and recite only what they think that Trump/Putin will want them to say.............

Bondi......Kristi Noem......Bang-Bang Boebert......Sara Palin.......the over the hill news woman down in Arizona........the list is endless........It is as if the Plastic Surgeons give them an either or choice....Boobs or Brains..........And the Evangelical/Religious Right Trumphumping Republicans think that PORN? demeans women???????????

[llmart]

13. This is why I watch BBC News in the morning.

I gave up watching our "news" programs a long time ago.

[calimary]

14. This is really becoming embarrassing.

And downright DISGUSTING!!!

[WestMichRad]

15. The maladministration is probably...

… at this moment establishing a kangaroo court to “hear” these cases. Probably with Kacsmaryk in north Texas to adjudicate.

[johnnyfins]

26. Funny you should post that

Isnt the DOJ trying to get these cases moved to Texas? There's a coincidence for ya.

[SSJVegeta]

16. Due process: isnt that when somebody is given a summons and an opportunity to defend themselves?

...something likely none of the subjects in there cases had?

[melm00se]

17. The Constitution discusses "due process"

But never defines it.

Judge Henry Friendly (yes, that was his real name) wrote an influential article which has been accepted by many as a working definition of due process:

A neutral and unbiased tribunal .
A notice of the government’s intended action and the asserted grounds for it.
The opportunity for the individual to present the reasons why the government should not move forward with the intended action.
The right for the individual to present evidence , including the right to call a witness .
The right for the individual to see the opposing side’s evidence.
The right to cross-examination of the opposition’s witnesses.
A decision based exclusively on the evidence presented.
The opportunity to representation by counsel .
The requirement that the tribunal prepare a record of the evidence presented.
Requirement that the tribunal prepare written findings of fact and reasons for its decision .

Full article here

But that is not in the constitution so, in theory (with this Supreme Court it may be: in fact) the Courts can redefine what is or is not "due process" anywhere along the line.

[et tu]

18. o gosh

in these troubled times, did i miss
the bachelor thing?

due process? will future generations
know what it means? possibly in canada

[Rebl2]

19. Oh my

Walter Cronkite must be spinning in his grave. The pretty boys apparently have no clue.

[Dave Bowman]

22. Edward R. Murrow must be spinning a lot lately too.

[Rebl2]

32. YEP

[Karasu]

20. Yep. The role that the media is playing in "legitimizing" all this can't be understated.

[returnee]

25. Agreed, a mockery of journalism.

Part of the disinformation machine. Moral and ethical professional bankruptcy. Disservice by subservience.

[onenote]

42. No, a mockery of journalism would be to pretend to know what exactly will constitute due process in these cases

See post #39.

[Dave Bowman]

21. Did they go to school at some point in their life?

[onenote]

41. Did you go to law school?

Because if you had, you probably would've learned that what exactly constitutes procedural due process in any particular type of proceeding can vary based on the nature of the proceeding. The commentators on CBS were simply reciting something first year law students should know.

See post #39

[mdbl]

24. proves we really have moved into an idiocracy

Was there a commercial for Brawndo after?

[-misanthroptimist]

28. Our media is incompetent and/or complicit

It's the price we pay for allowing fewer and fewer corporations to control more and more media while they demand profits.

[IronLionZion]

30. The administration was quick to bring back Andrew Tate from Romanian prison

so their ideas of due process might be a big different from what's in the constitution. As in Trump supporters get a real fast process to freedom while others can GTFO.

[LymphocyteLover]

34. IOKIYAR on steroids

[IronLionZion]

35. 2016: "Immigrants are rapists!". 2025: literally pressuring allied countries to send rapists to the US

[LymphocyteLover]

36. It's purely psychotic and evil

[LymphocyteLover]

33. will these motherfuckers EVER show outrage for these outrageous acts?

[Evolve Dammit]

37. This is what capitulation looks like. Media companies, law firms, schools, universities, non-profits next.

[onenote]

39. I'd like for those DUers criticizing CBS to explain what due process requires in the deportation cases

Seventy-five years ago, the Supreme Court stated as follows: Many controversies have raged about the cryptic and abstract words of the Due Process Clause, but there can be no doubt that, at a minimum, they require that deprivation of life, liberty or property by adjudication be preceded by notice and opportunity for hearing appropriate to the nature of the case.

This is first year law school stuff. So let's hear it from those yanking CBS's chain: what exactly will the courts, particularly the Supreme Court, conclude constitutes the level of notice and opportunity for hearing "appropriate to the nature of" a deportation case under the Alien Enemies Act.

Inquiring minds want to know.

[Ponietz]

40. Good post

[Ms. Toad]

43. I was just scrolling down through all the nonsense

To see if anyone posted this.

It's one of my favorite topics to use in bar prep for my making up the rules sessions because it is so totally situational that the question has to contain enough clues for you to make up crap about what process is due based on the importance of the right that is at risk

[Sympthsical]

44. 200 recs

It wasn't even passing difficult to understand what the reporters meant in that conversation.

It would require a complete lack of knowledge of basic constitutional principles to not understand it.

And yet, 200.

So anyway, my valley is full of pollen this week. Sneezy.