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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo money for Cancer research & treatment for kids, but $100million dollar birthday parade OK. Disgusting.
the fact anyone can gaslight this, fully underscores the subhuman nature of these fucking roaches.
tanyev
(48,665 posts)proudly wearing his French Fries Certification Pin for all to see.
NCDem47
(3,325 posts)If the economy is in the sh*tter at that time, he'll get royally roasted.
Of course he won't care.
LiberalArkie
(19,315 posts)vapor2
(3,772 posts)thomski64
(840 posts)One like that?
erronis
(22,660 posts)IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)Well
..not to exaggerate at all
Mmmm, Lets put it this way
A LOT of leaders in the Middle East knew my late father
back in the 1950s 1960s 1970s, and a little in later years 80s.
Knew, him, and they still would remember him even years later.
For instance
.
Sadats widow, Jehan Sadat, greeted my father by name at a chance meeting
in late 1988.in the states, at an exclusive fine dining Italian restaurant she welcomed him by his first name,
She instantly gestured to her security to allow him,,,,
(But her security also kept away another person who she didnt know who started to approach)
ADD THIS
There are a few cables on line in the National Archives that reference my late father,
For example: Kissinger sent cables, a few cables to US Embassies,
Iran, Brazil, Egypt, etc
even one cable about my father I found from Kissinger to Moscow US Embassy if you can believe that! (I knew nothing about that until I saw hat cable)
But overall, the info in those cables was disappointing, not
really much of anything.
ALL what I want to know is still classified,
And when they so-called released the declassified stuff the CIA Family Jewels
It failed to include almost EVERYTHING I wanted to see.
The National Security Archives at George Washington University has told me
Multiple times to me
Its really unlikely they, the CIA NSA will ever declassify what my father did.
erronis
(22,660 posts)My father was also well-known during the Truman and Kennedy administrations. However memories, even the institutional ones, decay over time - as they should.
Love your DU profile. I'm in admiration.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)I never really knew what my father did,
We knew he was someone that went to countries all across the globe,
As we were children- thats all we knew was
Dad built communication
systems, and he was a senior executive for a BIG CORPORATION
Dad was in Iran, Dad was in Saudi Arabia, Dad was in Spain,
..Dad was in Turkey,
Dad was in Syria,
Ethiopia,
Egypt,
Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Cuba, Brazil,
Later we realized it was a LOT MORE than what we were led to believe.
I remember the shock after he died of seeing some of his old Calendars
from 1960s
.all the entries for WashDC, WashDC, WashDC
..
Dozens and dozens entries/dates for WashDC
.and we never knew of that.
After the fact we surmised
.. NSA and CIA, and Senate Intelligence Committee members meetings
Dad was formally invited to EVERY US Presidential Inauguration from
JFK thru Clinton
.Republican and Democratic both.
Only President that didnt was BushSR,,,,, think it was personal reason.
BushSR was CIA too.
Also think my father got out of the spook business just prior to all
the crap in Reagan era.
Dad knew ,,, Im fairly sure of this,,, knew what was going on way BEFORE
Reagans IRAN/CONTRA crap became public.
Way too many connections, and ties to Vietnam, Thailand, CIA NSA, AND
of course IRAN.
Dad was in IRAN all the time for decades,
erronis
(22,660 posts)Sometimes the spouses knew a bit of the backstory, and sometimes the children knew there was more to the tale than they were given.
Hard to live a life where a large part of it is supposed to remain hidden.
Thanks for sharing.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)Those books by James Bamford allowed thousands of National Security types/people who were employed/working for NSA CIA to inform their spouses and family about the NSA.
BODY OF SECRETS
This book is a LOT about what my father was involved in
..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puzzle_Palace
THE PUZZLE PALACE
those 2 books about NSA are fantastic information
But, and a BIG BUT,,,, a lot is very dry reading, and boring IF you dont
know or realize the connections that the book may skip or not tell
you the connections
Best to be knowledgeable BEFORE reading those books.
erronis
(22,660 posts)At that time I worked in the periphery of that world and knew some of something. Good hangout: Charley's Place. Or Au Pied de Cochon. It was hard to hang out in a bar without someone knowing too much.
I think we're in a stranger world than fiction. And one that even the best intelligence analysts couldn't have foretold - or if they did, they were silenced.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)Again my sister tends to exaggerate,,,
But I believe her in this instance
..
She went to Rice University, and a classmate/friend of hers was
from Jordon.
At Rice University graduation the parents from Jordon
greeted my parents and of course the Jordon father knew
my father by name, apparently very well.
Think he was the equivalent of the US Attorney General,
But called by another govt title in Jordon.
Later my sister said she was told by that Jordanian father something like this
After my father left for awhile
.
I cant tell you how much the country of Jordon owes him for all he has done to help Jordon
Or he said something like that.
I guess I believe my sister,
And I was indeed aware my father was in Jordan many times
And knew that King Hussein (who died years ago)
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)Dad was summoned to testify to various Congressional hearings,
BUT from what I have found in the public records,
He was indeed originally summoned to testify,
BUT as far as I know
..it was then ALWAYS CANCELLED.
so he never testified in public.
I assume he likely did testify in private,
Even years later, when the Iron Curtain fell,
My parents visited Czechoslovakia,,,
He still had to get the ok to travel to a former Soviet
country, apparently approved first from WashDC (NSA?)
And when he got to Prague,,, GUESS WHAT?
APPARENTLY even though Soviets were no longer,
Some KGB type person or persons followed my father everywhere
Mom and Dad went
..to museums
..followed
..to Brno
.followed
I guess the KGB still was interested to know what he was doing there.
Followed them everywhere, openly following them
erronis
(22,660 posts)The USSR security apparatus was slowly morphing into putin's current implementation.
And that same type of threats are now directed against US citizens on their own soil, by their "own" government.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)Eleanor Roosevelt supposedly said that
.
He was a corrupting influence on her husband.
😎
And Truman, when he became President, well Truman bugged the telephones
of him too.
Good one!
Paladin
(32,291 posts)1.) Keep showing up at the nation-wide anti-trump rallies.
2.) Disassociate yourselves from any remaining pro-trump acquaintances or relatives you might still have.
3.) VOTE.
mwmisses4289
(3,238 posts)trump acquaintances or family, as they may be coworkers or customers, especially if we live in red areas. We can be polite, not talk politics, and keep our interactions down to the bare minimum when dealing with them.
Katinfl
(641 posts)I get why they have to do it because it has to be hard to stay silent. We only have one couple that we do not discuss politics in any way, shape or form. Many years ago we had a falling out on that subject and we have just reconnected. They know where we are parked, but we dont know where they are after all this crap with trump so we dont say a word. Hes a republican, she follow his word on everything. He is an intelligent man and we cannot believe he in OK with trump, but we will never know. So be it.
BonnieJW
(3,081 posts)I smile and say hello back to them. I never stop to talk. I think I'm one of many who do that because two of them moved out of the neighborhood. I hope they are shunned for the rest of their lives
NoMoreRepugs
(11,803 posts)orleans
(36,673 posts)GENERAL BONE SPURS
MLWR
(776 posts)Or show up with signs saying that money should be going to cancer research. I sincerely hope that Lady Karma is watching this latest example of "waste, fraud and abuse."
birdographer
(2,937 posts)Ideally, dont show up. If that meant the streets would be empty, great. But it doesntMAGAts will come from everywhere to attend. So holding signs relating the cost of the parade with the cost of cancer research seems to me to be the best way to get the message across. I doubt MAGAts even know that he has cut that research. They just want to kneel and worship him.
BonnieJW
(3,081 posts)Who knows what financial shape people will be in by June? They might show up with begging bowls
mercuryblues
(16,175 posts)My kid died of cancer so trump could have this parade
Disclaimer: my kids are ok. But i bet some people would be able to use it.
LR3
(117 posts)Needs some braid on the shoulder, too.
The Medal of Bone Spur Valor
The Bronze Avoided The Clap
Lonestarblue
(13,231 posts)His uniform is covered with medals, none of which he earned. He borrowed them from a classmate or, more likely, bullied the classmate into giving them to him. He loves to give himself awards.
bmichaelh
(1,085 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:48 AM - Edit history (3)
Eliminating cancer research is something that Biden or Harris would never have done.
Cancer research saved my life.
I was first diagnosed with lymphoma in 1990.
It returned in 2019 after two remissions.
I went 4 unsuccessful treatments over 2 years; all failed.
The 5th treatment was successful; the drug had only been approved by FDA the year before in 2020.
Also, when lymphoma returns, it gets more aggressive and resistant to prior therapies.
Also, I told my MAGA family members, that if my lymphoma returns and Trump in any way is partly responsible for my lack of treatment options, I will not be silent.
I will write my story.
They are more horrified that I would make Trump look bad than anything.
Also, Biden was VP when the ACA passed. ACA provides me with protections against lifetime limits which under the pre-ACA world, I would have already passed. And Trump wanted to repeal the ACA. Harris as US Senator voted against the repeal.
There is no more
mercy in him than there is milk in a male tiger.
--Shakespeare, Coriolanus 5.4.28-29
travelingthrulife
(4,463 posts)BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)while he systematically stomps out food banks across the land.
Do the repubes really think this is what Jesus would do?
Sounds like a Satanic delusion to me.
Ars Longa
(433 posts)health care programs??
How about hiring Veterans back to all these
Government Jobs.
RobertDevereaux
(2,023 posts)A parade for that bastard?
Elsewhere in DC, same day, same hour, someone needs to hold a 4-mile parade of clowns, fantastical floats, and brazenly bleating kazoo bands.
birdographer
(2,937 posts)How hard could that be to arrange? I bet it would bring more people than his self-indulgent parade to honor himself. Could be so much fun, kids would love it, show the contrast.
calimary
(89,041 posts)Especially if the protest signs are clever.
erronis
(22,660 posts)The Fourth Estate has been bought.
Nimble_Idea
(2,849 posts)forever.
Orrex
(66,678 posts)birdographer
(2,937 posts)No heart, no soul, just a flabby bag of flesh. Theres nothing THERE to die. Id love it if someone would test out this theory for me.
Diamond_Dog
(39,768 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)The TRUE costs of AirForceOne and Security, etc are probably 10-15 MILLION FOR EVERY TRIP, ONE WAY.....
MayReasonRule
(4,012 posts)
Almost two dozen repositories of research and public health data supported by the National Institutes of Health are marked for review under the Trump administrations direction, and researchers and archivists say the data is at risk of being lost forever if the repositories go down.
The problem with archiving this data is that we cant, Lisa Chinn, Head of Research Data Services at the University of Chicago, told 404 Media. Unlike other government datasets or web pages, downloading or otherwise archiving NIH data often requires a Data Use Agreement between a researcher institution and the agency, and those agreements are carefully administered through a disclosure risk review process.
A message appeared at the top of multiple NIH websites last week that says: This repository is under review for potential modification in compliance with Administration directives.
Repositories with the message include archives of cancer imagery, Alzheimers disease research, sleep studies, HIV databases, and COVID-19 vaccination and mortality data.
Full Archived Article
erronis
(22,660 posts)There are thousands (or orders of magnitude more) or robots/spiders/scrapers scanning every available web site and page looking for new data.
Much of those successfully scanned pages end up in some archive. Many of those archives are publicly available. Witness the WayBackMachine.
Until this regime tries to put these archives out of business - perhaps another "EO".
Of course the most useful to many of us is Wikipedia and the other offshoots. These have already been mentioned as targets. Full downloads of current content are available to take to your bunker.
eShirl
(20,080 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,506 posts)IronLionZion
(50,821 posts)it all sounds Putin-esque
sinkingfeeling
(57,229 posts)Rebl2
(17,404 posts)sickening. The only hope is for some of these republicans who have children, that some of their children get cancer. Then they ask wheres the research and treatment and they are told , well you voted to get rid of the money for that research and/or treatment.
calimary
(89,041 posts)so right. I didnt like writing that, but you are correct, its the only way to reach some people unfortunately.
ECL213
(431 posts)republianmushroom
(22,122 posts)red dog 1
(32,500 posts)Blue Owl
(58,170 posts)Why the fuck is he still even here?
Cha
(316,794 posts)Fuck that Degenerate Disease.
Karasu
(2,003 posts)"efficient", now, is it?
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Karasu
(2,003 posts)Klarkashton
(4,736 posts)Will come of it.
Can only hope!