Stock Market is not logical

[angrychair]

I heard this before but no better example than this morning.
Every possible metric says the stock market should be collapsing into a black hole yet it's all positive this morning.

[Joe Cool]

1. It's a morning pump and dump

Same thing happened yesterday.

[Emile]

2. That's what they call a volatile market.

Not good.

[johnnyfins]

3. We are forgetting something

All of the financial reporting coming out of the government since 1/20/25, should not be trusted. Just sayin...

[Johnny2X2X]

4. Not corrupt yet

When it gets corrupted, it will be very obvious. BLS publishes their data and methods very openly.

[AdamThePhantump]

5. BLS

What’s BLS?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Bureau of Labor Statistics

[AdamThePhantump]

9. Ok

Thanks for telling me!

[Wounded Bear]

6. Remember Trading Places? The market is emotional...

[Moostache]

7. The market manipulators are cashing in on the irrational rise....again.

It would not surprise me in the least to find out that there is a cabal of private equity managers using the media to pu out false stories that make investors believe an opportunity to profit is showing...when in fact its all bullshit intended to sucker people into a market that is being shorted by the very people floating the bogus 'news' in the first place.

Any stock or market 'investment' that is being made multiple times in an hour is simply gambling and done by and for manipulators. Long term buy and hold investments are getting crucified right now by a malignant imbecile and his enablers to benefit the financial sleaze that put them in place to start.

Carlin was right DECADES ago..."It's a big club...and YOU AIN'T IN IT!".

[anciano]

13. Love that quote from Carlin, it's spot on.....

It is entertaining to watch all the hand wringing and emotional gymnastics of the stock jocks trying to predict the market's next turn...
Spoiler alert: the game is rigged!

[Johonny]

10. ?? It is essentially flat today

The market is slowly working towards bear markets. It will almost certainly reach into a bear market. Hiw deep is anyones guess. Many companies are now revising guidance as predicted. There is almost no positive news on the horizon. Expect a chilly Spring quarter.

The promised tax cut is not a tax cut, but a tax extension. In that sense it is unlikely to drive the markets up.

[unblock]

11. The market reacts to new information. Old news is presumed to already be priced into the market

So all the analysis about collapse has presumably already been priced in, which helps explain why the market has gone down a lot in the very recent past.

But today's activity in theory is based just on new information since yesterday. None of which has been overly bad or inconsistent with expectations.

Now, that doesn't mean the market always reacts correctly or in the right amount, so over time the market can get out of line. Then there can be a big rally or crash that's not really based on news, just the sudden realization of the market that it's drifted off track and there's a large readjustment.

I think that's where we're headed. Some underlying assumptions will be reevaluated. Such as the u.s. being the dominant economic global force, the reserve currency, etc.

The market is being slow to realize just how much damage Donnie is doing. If there isn't a strong push to remove him from office (seems a long shot, but don't f with all the billionaires at once), the market will see the dominos fall.

Long rates rising, bond market liquidity problems, ratings downgrades, plant cancelations and closures, companies moving away from America, international trade deals without us, etc.

These are all in the works and the market I think remains in denial. I don't think such risks are adequately priced in.

[Silent Type]

12. The trend is downward. A few weak bounces don't really change the trend.

[walkingman]

14. I think it is traders - they know that any announced trade agreement will cause a huge jump

but I think a recession is in our future no matter what "social media" says. Businesses and people will vut back based on the self-inflicted pain that this administration has caused. Farmers, ranchers, big business will get subsidies (so much for cutting spending) but small businesses will really get hit hard as will retired people who are not wealthy.

[Rebl2]

15. At this

very moment it is down over 200 points.

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

16. TV ads still have people prancing, dancing & twirling about.

So, all is apparently well...

[Doodley]

17. The administration has left some hope that nations are lining up to do deals. They are trying to manipulate the market

by spinning positive outcomes.

[Happy Hoosier]

18. Nope.

Markets that are fallng often lead to "bargain hunting" as the market looks for a bottom. That bargain hunting often happens at the beginning of the trading day. Bargain hunters are hoping to catch the bottom of the market. Bargain hunters start buying when they think the market is getting near the bottom. With the market at over 20% off highs, there's a chance it IS at or near the bottom. Without actual numbers verifying a recessionay impact, I doubt the market drop ALL that much further. But that's why you are seeing high volitility too... people are thinking the market is near the bottom, but are not certain. Usually bargain hunint dies out later in the day, which is why we saw a large sink in the afternoon yesterday. If it IS at the bottom, I'd expect a bump and then stabilization until the imact of the tariffs become clear.

[Polybius]

19. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem disappointed

Do you want it to collapse?