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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:15 AM Apr 2025

Vox: Some elite Trump supporters are having regrets. We asked them why.

Vox - Some elite Trump supporters are having regrets. We asked them why.

After the tariffs, they’re worried they made a MAGA mistake.

by Zack Beauchamp
Apr 9, 2025, 7:00 AM EDT

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Trump supporters ranging from mega-investor Bill Ackman to anti-vax influencer Alex Berenson have expressed remorse about their decision to support Trump in November. Some have been harsh: Razib Khan, a geneticist and influential science writer on the right, called himself “r*****ed and wrong” for discounting the risk that Trump would actually do the tariffs.

Richard Hanania, a pundit prominent enough to occasionally swap DMs with Elon Musk on X, has gone the furthest. Last week, he published a lengthy Substack essay explaining why he now believes his reasons for voting Trump were mistaken.

“I was expecting something of a repeat of the first administration, with Trump restrained by traditional conservative ideas, personnel, and institutions. As it turned out, the old Reagan coalition was becoming increasingly hollow, replaced by Trump worship, online edgelordism, and late arriving scammers like crypto bros and MAHA,” he concluded.

To liberals, this kind of thing might seem maddening. Trump loudly, explicitly, and repeatedly signaled that he would impose large tariffs on all foreign imports if he returned to power. Many observers, including me, warned that the guardrails that restrained his first presidency had come off — and that universal tariffs were all-but-certain to be enacted this year. Why couldn’t these well-connected, highly-educated Trump supporters see it?

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Vox: Some elite Trump supporters are having regrets. We asked them why. (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Apr 2025 OP
Hadn't heard of the word edgelordism before Raven123 Apr 2025 #1
r*****ed? Not enough asterisks for ratfucked. Baitball Blogger Apr 2025 #2
deragatory slur for mental disabilities InstantGratification Apr 2025 #6
Figures. yardwork Apr 2025 #8
They didn't realize that to a megalomaniac he punches down in his head at everyone -- including them JT45242 Apr 2025 #9
He couldn't have made it clearer over the years that he has utter contempt for anyone who adulates him. Emrys Apr 2025 #25
Don't think supporters read period vapor2 Apr 2025 #31
Wow! Pretty harsh. Baitball Blogger Apr 2025 #21
Mistaken? Permanut Apr 2025 #3
i'm shocked, shocked, that Trump has actually imposed tarriffs. MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #13
Yep. The asshole PROMISED retribution and tariffs at every campaign rally dalton99a Apr 2025 #4
and impoundment and that we wouldn't have to vote again MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #14
So . . . peggysue2 Apr 2025 #5
Democrats and liberals had him pegged a decade ago Cosmocat Apr 2025 #16
So did anyone in the Tri-statr area... Shipwack Apr 2025 #19
There are none so blind as those who will not see. ShazzieB Apr 2025 #7
They had the mistaken belief they could control him mwmisses4289 Apr 2025 #33
Nom nom nom Coventina Apr 2025 #10
the leopards are enjoying their never ending buffet. nt Javaman Apr 2025 #11
Jan 6 2021 should have been a deal breaker for every citizen Martin Eden Apr 2025 #12
They supported him despite strong evidence that Fil1957 Apr 2025 #15
I won't call anyone "r*****ed", but I will point out that these people are dumbasses. Midnight Writer Apr 2025 #17
F#CK ALL OF THOSE F#CKING F#CKS ECL213 Apr 2025 #18
The Felon lies so regularly and changes direction like wind. pandr32 Apr 2025 #20
I didn't know there was such a thing as an "elite Trump supporter". llmart Apr 2025 #22
Occam's Razor WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2025 #23
Maddening is an understatement MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #24
Hate Trump's everything with Republicans yourout Apr 2025 #26
Elite Trump supporters? WarGamer Apr 2025 #27
Bull Crap! They're trying to Cover their arses Bread and Circuses Apr 2025 #28
They thought he was only going to harm the "little people" Crunchy Frog Apr 2025 #29
Bill Ackerman was praising him earlier obamanut2012 Apr 2025 #30
They knew what he was... a murderer, psycho criminal who wants to be a dictator/king etc. Meowmee Apr 2025 #32
Most of these people are simply ... Whiskeytide Apr 2025 #34
Fuck 'em. Paladin Apr 2025 #35

Raven123

(7,547 posts)
1. Hadn't heard of the word edgelordism before
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:29 AM
Apr 2025

Edgelord: someone who makes wildly dark and exaggerated statements with the intent of shocking others.

Yes, Trump is that, but MAGAs and the media normalized it, so there is no excuse for them to be surprised at the outcome. They made his demented dreams a reality.

yardwork

(68,976 posts)
8. Figures.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:32 AM
Apr 2025

A lot of these people voted for Trump because they like how mean and ugly he is to other people. They cheer as he punches down. Now they're sorry he's doing all the things he said he'd do.

They came for the circus. They're surprised the chaos is affecting them.

JT45242

(3,832 posts)
9. They didn't realize that to a megalomaniac he punches down in his head at everyone -- including them
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:37 AM
Apr 2025

The first tiem was a disaster that killed a million over necessary because of mismanging a pandemic because he didn't want his makeup messed up wearing a mask. The geneticist of all people has ZERO excuses.

They wanted hate and suffering for people who are "less than" -- brown, women, poor and forgot taht to Putin, Musk, and Mango Mussolini everyone is less than them.

Plus it was all in Project 2025 -- take time to read asshats.



Emrys

(8,930 posts)
25. He couldn't have made it clearer over the years that he has utter contempt for anyone who adulates him.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:29 PM
Apr 2025

He knows damn well he's a jumped-up carnival barker, he's made a whole career out of it. Why would he respect any rubes who fall for it?

He has hatred aplenty for many many others, but for his fans, his contempt is overwhelming.

Permanut

(7,993 posts)
3. Mistaken?
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:56 AM
Apr 2025

Gosh, wait until they discover that water is wet; then I guess they'll really be shocked.

MadameButterfly

(3,746 posts)
13. i'm shocked, shocked, that Trump has actually imposed tarriffs.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:52 AM
Apr 2025

Sorry, just watched Casablanca this weekend, couldn't resist.
(A good movie it turns out for these times.)

peggysue2

(12,388 posts)
5. So . . .
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:10 AM
Apr 2025

The Very Smart People aren't very smart or good at paying attention.

I daresay those of us on DU knew exactly how reckless and moronic Agent Orange was and would be with no guardrails. Kamala Harris warned the public, as did Joe Biden, repeatedly. Back in the day, Hillary Clinton beat the same, prescient drum.

Turns out the very rich, the very pompous, the very verys had their heads as far up their asses as the ordinary MAGA voter. Even the right-wing influencers are sobbing.

Everything Trump Touches Dies. ETTD

Elon Musk didn't believe it. Bill Ackman didn't believe it, nor did Koch Industries or Walmart or Home Depot, etc. Now all the CEO's are wailing about:

WHAT THEY VOTED FOR AND FUNDED.

Welcome to the Liquidation Party. Your greed and hubris just slashed your own throats.

Cosmocat

(15,348 posts)
16. Democrats and liberals had him pegged a decade ago
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:00 PM
Apr 2025

when he came down the escalator.

Cause, we deal in reality, facts and decency.

But, to all of these people who bought into half a century of right wing demonizing the libs and dems, to allow themselves to buy into the mindset that we are wrong about everything and basically subhuman POS, the more we pointing to things that we said would happen and did, the more in validated that they had to support him.

Shipwack

(3,001 posts)
19. So did anyone in the Tri-statr area...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:04 PM
Apr 2025

All the stories about him were out in the open.

It's almost as if they didn't want to do due diligence... 🤔

ShazzieB

(22,217 posts)
7. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:29 AM
Apr 2025

We all saw this coming! Maybe not every detail, but we knew the guard rails with going to be nonexistent, and we sure as hell knew about his tarriff plans. There's no reason these "elite Trump supporters" couldn't have seen what we did. They just didn't WANT to believe their boy could be THIS bad.

Martin Eden

(15,363 posts)
12. Jan 6 2021 should have been a deal breaker for every citizen
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:52 AM
Apr 2025

I have zero respect or sympathy for anyone willing to overlook that violent coup attempt out of greed or culture war bigotry.

Fil1957

(539 posts)
15. They supported him despite strong evidence that
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:56 AM
Apr 2025

he was gonna do what he's doing now, because they wanted to believe he wouldn't. Con artists know that they can get the mark to believe almost anything if the victim wants to believe the lie.

Still, it boggles the mind how so many people can be so rich and yet so selfish and stupid.

Midnight Writer

(25,145 posts)
17. I won't call anyone "r*****ed", but I will point out that these people are dumbasses.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:01 PM
Apr 2025

Some folks are born mentally deficient. Some people have to work for it.

ECL213

(431 posts)
18. F#CK ALL OF THOSE F#CKING F#CKS
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:04 PM
Apr 2025

How the f#ck was he "restrained" the first time around. Those "traditional conservatives" couldn't bend over far enough, or fast enough, or apply enough lube to let the f#ckhead have his way with them. You dumbf#cks are getting exactly what you voted for, so f#ck you!

pandr32

(13,781 posts)
20. The Felon lies so regularly and changes direction like wind.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:06 PM
Apr 2025

There are video clips of him contradicting himself in droves. He then denies what he formally said. He talks tough at rallies, interviews, and ahead of elections and often doesn't stick to his guns as the wind changes.
These rich donors never thought he "would actually do" what they thought was his tough shtick.

llmart

(17,320 posts)
22. I didn't know there was such a thing as an "elite Trump supporter".
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:12 PM
Apr 2025

These people were just thrilled that they would get a tax cut but had no idea that his tariffs would affect them also.

As we say over and over again here on DU, Republicans only care if it hurts them. Then they get up in arms about the guy they've been propping up as their "leader" when he does something that affects them.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,416 posts)
23. Occam's Razor
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:20 PM
Apr 2025

The most obvious answer is usually the right one. They didn't WANT to see it. Plausible deniability.
The leopard wasn't supposed to eat THEIR face. Oops.

MadameButterfly

(3,746 posts)
24. Maddening is an understatement
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:05 PM
Apr 2025

He's been pro-tarriff his whole life
He said he was going to be a dictator
Did they think they were going to be able to control a dictator?
They're making me want to re-institute literacy tests for voters. This time they should have to pass a history test.

yourout

(8,721 posts)
26. Hate Trump's everything with Republicans
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:32 PM
Apr 2025

What little common sense they had is easily bypassed when you can rile up the hate in them.

Bread and Circuses

(1,570 posts)
28. Bull Crap! They're trying to Cover their arses
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:44 PM
Apr 2025

The first term was a shite and they knew he was a felon, liar, traitor and vengeful.


Don’t believe any of the Republican voters

Crunchy Frog

(28,214 posts)
29. They thought he was only going to harm the "little people"
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:46 PM
Apr 2025

while they benefited. And they failed to pay attention to what he's been saying and doing for the past nine years, or the warnings of sane people who served in his 1st admin.

I thought these people were supposed to be smart.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
32. They knew what he was... a murderer, psycho criminal who wants to be a dictator/king etc.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:36 PM
Apr 2025

That alone should have been enough.

Whiskeytide

(4,633 posts)
34. Most of these people are simply ...
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 07:17 AM
Apr 2025

… disappointed that Тяцмp has not been able to find ways to hurt those “other” people without also hurting them in the process.

Paladin

(32,291 posts)
35. Fuck 'em.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 07:29 AM
Apr 2025

Fuck them, and their way-too-late boo-hoo's. I don't even want to hear their whining, at this point. It's not as if they're smart enough to learn from their mistakes.

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